Sweeney did imply this; but his statement was pretty ridiculous at face value... like it made no sense considering everything else they said about scalability.
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He implied it with this response to IGN:
Well, MS made similar breakthroughs in IO performance with their Velocity Architecture, only with less overall speed. And they are likely to bring at least some of these breakthroughs to the PC with the DirectStorage API, on top of what Nvidia/AMD are doing. So if it's an industry-wide change, just pointing out what Sony are doing, doesn't prove that other vendors can't compete.
I think you missed my point. The "at any scale" part is what I'm calling out. He's claiming the demo can't scale to anything but something with the PS5's I/O.
Considering they mostly show their demos on PlayStation consoles, these breakthroughs he's talking about are most likely in comparison to the PS4 or PS4 Pro.
That's not what he said though; but I agree.. he probably meant "at that scale." Hence my point; his statement was fairly ludicrous at face value.
Right but he is referring to rendering with "this sort of detail"; i.e the fidelity seen in the demo. Maybe you can halve the number of polygons and it will still look pretty good.
"At any scale"... I mean.. words have meaning lol
Like it was showed... yes.
Scale he means hardware scale.
At any scale, with that level of detail. In other words, you could have a smaller world with less super high detail assets and it would be ok. Or you could have the same size world with less detailed assets. I think scale refers to size of the world, not the fidelity of the rendering. Though it looks like we won't get a definitive answer yet.
Devs said that this could also run on PC and XSX. So this demo isn't only running on a PS5
Can't you read what I wrote?
Yeah I guess he could have meant that; just extra words that don't add much meaning though (if you understand bandwidth at least)
Scale is not related to level of detail.
Where did they say that? Please provide a source when you make these claims.
Where is it said Xbox or PC need to turn the level of detail down? If you can not back that up, why are you still going around saying that as a factual statement. Further more, I challenge you to display the asset sizes used in this demo. Tell me the steaming speeds and all that. If you cannot do this, or simply quote the devs explicitly saying this, then you are spreading completely horseshit/FUD.
You again? Time to stop your baiting BS with me.
First of all, you are misconstruing what that tweet says. He is talking about production being able to produce content at that quality consistently for 30+ hours worth of gameplay. It has nothing to do with the capabilities of the hardware.
Without any breakthroughs that Sony have made, in comparison to what? The ps4 tech demo they showed last gen? Well if course you can't stream that on a ps4, that's obvious. At no point did they say it's not possible on Xbox SX or PC. As matter a fact, they said it's running on all platforms, and didn't mention anything about downgrades for anything, besides what everyone currently has in their living room, current gen consoles.You again? Time to stop your baiting BS with me.
If you are not happy what Tim says, contact him
Where did I say the hardware is incapable? I only mentioned storage size. Stop misconstruing what I said. None of the cutscenes or screenshots you have shown can match what gameplay could be like in that tech demo. Which is not farfetched. Tech demo's don't equate to gameplay, although I'm sure we all know this by now, as that was my point to begin with.First of all, you are misconstruing what that tweet says. He is talking about production being able to produce content at that quality consistently for 30+ hours worth of gameplay. It has nothing to do with the capabilities of the hardware.
Secondly we have thoroughly passed or are equal to all Unreal Engine Tech Demos. God of War beats that Elemental Demo
Infiltrator Demo Vs Gears 5 and Killzone SF.
He also said this:You again? Time to stop your baiting BS with me.
If you are not happy what Tim says, contact him
I'm not misconstruing what you are saying. Hardware dictates what types of technologies used in games. Storage size is not the issue here, the issue again is producing all those assets. That's what that tweet was talking about.
devblogs.nvidia.com
No, he did not say that. That is not a quote from him
I dunno but I can name plenty of games from this generations that shits all over the UE4 elemental demo, which I think is the best comparison in this case.
You say you can name plenty of games, yet you name absolutely ZERO titles? How does that work? UE isn't the best comparison, but to compare last gen, to this gen, it's a good example.
Ask Epic lol they are telling that.
With as many people that have asked you to provide exact wording, you've shown absolutely no results. Do you think anyone is even taking you seriously at this point? You have misconstrued every bit of wording, to your liking, and people call you out on it. Continuing to do the same, without anything to back it up, leaves you with how much credibility at this point?
It's quite obvious many of these games don't have any of these features. Consoles can't even do 16AA. That alone is telling by itself. You can say this art direction looks better than another game, but cannot argue the actually graphical effects. Those games look great, yes, can't disagree. But to say games have surpassed a tech demo, which showcases specific graphical techniques, that aren't available in those games mentioned, is ridiculous. And that was only one example of a tech demo.
I already give the link and quote dozen of times.
