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[DeepEnigma]

Sweeney says that Sony’s storage architecture is far ahead of “the best SSD solution you can buy on PC today. And so it’s really exciting to be seeing the console market push forward the high-end PC market in this way.”

“[The PS5] puts a vast amount of flash memory very, very close to the processor,” says Sweeney. “So much that it really fundamentally changes the trade-offs that games can make and stream in. And that’s absolutely critical to this kind of demo,” Sweeney explained.

“This is not just a whole lot of polygons and memory. It’s also a lot of polygons being loaded every frame as you walk around through the environment and this sort of detail you don’t see in the world would absolutely not be possible at any scale without these breakthroughs that Sony’s made.”

PS5 SSD Is 'Far Ahead' of High-End PCs, Epic Games CEO Says - IGN

The PlayStation 5 breakthroughs on SSD and storage are ahead of any PC alternatives.

www.ign.com

Thanks JareBear: Remastered

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"A number of different components are required to render this level of detail, right?" offers Sweeney. "One is the GPU performance and GPU architecture to draw an incredible amount of geometry that you're talking about - a very large number of teraflops being required for this. The other is the ability to load and stream it efficiently. One of the big efforts that's been done and is ongoing in Unreal Engine 5 now is optimising for next generation storage to make loading faster by multiples of current performance. Not just a little bit faster but a lot faster, so that you can bring in this geometry and display it, despite it not all fitting and memory, you know, taking advantage of next generation SSD architectures and everything else... Sony is pioneering here with the PlayStation 5 architecture. It's got a God-tier storage system which is pretty far ahead of PCs, [but on] a high-end PC with an SSD and especially with NVMe, you get awesome performance too."

This is next-gen: see Unreal Engine 5 running on PlayStation 5

We've seen the specs, we've heard the pitches - but what we haven't experienced is any demonstration of a genuine next-…

www.eurogamer.net

 

[Agnostic2020]

Epic and sony knock it out of park for this showing. My jaw was dropped

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

This is definitely a good morning. "Next Gen" becoming a little clearer.

 

[Sota4077]

Jesus Christ this did not need its own new thread outside of the Unreal Engine 5 reveal. This is such a silly console warrior thread from the starting gate....

 

[iamvin22]

Cerny redeemed............................. Again

 

[DeepEnigma]

Jesus Christ this did not need its own new thread outside of the Unreal Engine 5 reveal. This is such a silly console warrior thread from the starting gate....

No it's not. It's talking about tech, a key component for their Unreal 5 tech and the console's future as well as PC, stop projecting.

 

[dcll]

 

[iamvin22]

Jesus Christ this did not need its own new thread outside of the Unreal Engine 5 reveal. This is such a silly console warrior thread from the starting gate....

How so? Host asked a question and the ceo wanted to make it clear how impressed the company is by the ssd capabilities.

By watch the tech demo you wouldn't have heard that information.

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[Neo_game]

SSD is the best feature in next gen consoles and especially on PS5. I hope they make good use of CPU as well not just for for higher fps.

 

[Kagero]

Jesus Christ this did not need its own new thread outside of the Unreal Engine 5 reveal. This is such a silly console warrior thread from the starting gate....

This isn't so much about Unreal. It speaking specifically about the technical benefits of Sony's SSD. Something I was highly skeptical of. It's nice to hear exactly how this will benefit games. XSX also has a fast SSD so this is good.

 

[AV]

Jesus Christ this did not need its own new thread outside of the Unreal Engine 5 reveal. This is such a silly console warrior thread from the starting gate....

It's sad when even mentioning a console's tech suddenly makes it a "silly console warrior" thread. OP didn't mention any other consoles, you're literally the only one here stirring the pot.

 

[longdi]

Tim Sweeny is just a good salesman.
But yeah, games requiring SSD is the future!

 

[Kokoloko85]

Looks way more promising than what I expected of next gen after that Xbox show...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Tim Sweeny is just a good salesman.
But yeah, games requiring SSD is the future!

 

[DanEON]

So the SSD is the marketing this gen. Got it!!

 

[llien]

Thanks, Enix, how would we compare figures like 5.5 and 1.5 without you.

 

[Croatoan]

By 2021, when UE5 releases, PCs will have SSD tech similar to the consoles. By 2022, or 2023, when the first UE5 game is released, consoles will no longer be even in the same ballpark as PCs. That said, if Horizon 2 looks like that UE5 tech demo I'll buy a ps5.

Console only peeps beating their chest about having a single unique feature for a year or two is kind of silly. This is why those of us that are "non-denominational" gamers laugh at those of you who are stuck goal tending for one platform or the other.

 

[GymWolf]

Are you trying to kill docta thompson and vfx veteran in a single blow?

Spoiler

p.s. joking guys, i love you both.

 

[and 3 others]

Finally starting to get excited about next gen. Those are the best times to be on GAF.

 

[DeepEnigma]

"A number of different components are required to render this level of detail, right?" offers Sweeney. "One is the GPU performance and GPU architecture to draw an incredible amount of geometry that you're talking about - a very large number of teraflops being required for this. The other is the ability to load and stream it efficiently. One of the big efforts that's been done and is ongoing in Unreal Engine 5 now is optimising for next generation storage to make loading faster by multiples of current performance. Not just a little bit faster but a lot faster, so that you can bring in this geometry and display it, despite it not all fitting and memory, you know, taking advantage of next generation SSD architectures and everything else... Sony is pioneering here with the PlayStation 5 architecture. It's got a God-tier storage system which is pretty far ahead of PCs, [but on] a high-end PC with an SSD and especially with NVMe, you get awesome performance too."

This is next-gen: see Unreal Engine 5 running on PlayStation 5

We've seen the specs, we've heard the pitches - but what we haven't experienced is any demonstration of a genuine next-…

www.eurogamer.net

 

[NeoGiffer]

Cerny redeemed............................. Again

 

[kyoji]

Lot of little nuggets were dropped by epic and geoff did a good job asking certain questions i thought. I can see sonys vision for ps5 now a bit more, and that is MORE immersion, how that will pan out is still yet to be seen but its very clear they did not want to only just focus on graphics. The 3d audio, ssd, changes to the new controller.. exciting stuff.

I said this in another post but the fact that epic used ps5 to reveal their new engine is very telling it also lines up with what mark talked about with developers being very complimentary of the tools/tech inside the box.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Yes, but what do the Hellpoint devs say?

 

[Optimistic Gamer]

Yes, but what do the Hellpoint devs say?

This.

Epic is barely reliable in contrast.

The good thing about upcoming tech on pc: You don't lock in your configuration for 7 years. If something new comes up, upgrade!

 

[jakinov]

I think you have to actually get good sales to be a good salesman

 

[daninthemix]

The timing of this along with the Unreal Engine 5 PS5 reveal makes me think there's some mutual fellatio going on here between Epic and Sony.

 

[Starlight Lotice]

His face for "Knocking one out...in the park"

 

[Ogbert]

Sony games on Epic Store confirmed.

 

[mortal]

Why does Mark Cerny always look like he's plotting something lol

 

[Sota4077]

Sony games on Epic Store confirmed.

Please god no. Just put their games on Steam. That is all I ask. Let me buy the console I want and play the other platforms games on PC. That is the dream for me for next gen.

 

[JLB]

haha, I knew that when I just tried to access GAF and took a while something happened!
Really nice, that Tomb Raider - like demo of UE5 is fantastic. And I guess that more or less what we are going to get on next gen.

 

[Ogbert]

The timing of this along with the Unreal Engine 5 PS5 reveal makes me think there's some mutual fellatio going on here between Epic and Sony.

Sweeney just wants to make sure that any Sony game that makes its way to PC ends up on his store rather than Steam. He can't be thrilled with Horizon being on Steam.

Makes sense. He's obviously going to cultivate the perception of a relationship.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

The timing of this along with the Unreal Engine 5 PS5 reveal makes me think there's some mutual fellatio going on here between Epic and Sony.

Are you saying they are 69’ing each other, metaphorically?

 

[Great Hair]

"500 statues each with 30million polygons" "16 billions polygons" "hundreds billions of polygons throughout the tech demo"

Source: 4K youtube

 

[jts]

Isn’t this what we have known since forever? Sony is trading other specs for an ahead of the curve SSD? PC SSDs will eventually catch up on that department, and that doesn’t mean they are copying the PS5. These things just always get faster.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

"500 statues each with 30million polygons" "16 billions polygons" "hundreds billions of polygons throughout the tech demo"

Source: 4K youtube

 

[ethomaz]

I expect devs to show even more uses for that dat fast data streaming in the future.

 

[NonPhixion]

If 75% of Xbox Studios pay Epic to use UE and only 1 Sony studio does, why didn't they show the tech demo off on an XseX?

 

[phil_t98]

But why was the tech demo only 1440p?

 

[Jonsoncao]

New tech will always shine on the most technologically advanced card, consoles may not even see this kind of tech demo graphics at the end of their life cycle.

 

[phil_t98]

If 75% of Xbox Studios pay Epic to use UE and only 1 Sony studio does, why didn't they show the tech demo off on an XseX?

They can choose who they like. It was a good demo

 

[hyperbertha]

PC mustard race on reading this:

 

[gamechanger87]

Oh Tim you sly dog.

As for Microsoft’s Xbox Series X, Sweeney isn’t saying the new Xbox won’t be able to achieve something similar; both are using custom SSDs that promise blazing speeds. But he says Epic’s strong relationship with Sony means the company is working more closely with the PlayStation creator than it does with Microsoft on this specific area.

 

[Captain Hero]

Jesus Christ this did not need its own new thread outside of the Unreal Engine 5 reveal. This is such a silly console warrior thread from the starting gate....

Sir .. let the overheated engine of urs cool off no need to post a shit war twist words

I know this is hard for you and some members here but it’s just unreal engine 5 not a PS5 exclusive game

 

[GenericUser]

This is definitely a good morning. "Next Gen" becoming a little clearer.

you mean good evening ;-) lovely

 

[Elginer]

Cerny knows wassup

 

[Fbh]

That's cool but as always I need to see to believe, all this talk about SSD's and speed is still just that... talk, until they actually start showing stuff.
Show me the same demo running on a high end PC and then point out the areas where the PS5 looks better due to the SSD, then I'll be impressed.

Also I imagine it was mostly for atmosphere but after so much talk of no more load screens it was funny to see the "character squeezes through tight space" sequence in the tech demo since that's used so often to hide loading

 

[sendit]

Tim Sweeny is just a good salesman.
But yeah, games requiring SSD is the future!

Like I’ve been saying for quite some time.The SSD is just one piece to the overall system architect. Take into account the custom I/O chip on the PS5 that a PC simply can not replicate at this moment.

This will eventually flow over to the PC world. Probably sooner than later.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Isn’t this what we have known since forever? Sony is trading other specs for an ahead of the curve SSD? PC SSDs will eventually catch up on that department, and that doesn’t mean they are copying the PS5. These things just always get faster.

Who says anything about copying? Of course they will. It's already rumored to have IO controllers/memory management for SSDs in the next Ryzen 4/RDNA 3 spec.

The great thing about it being in these two consoles as a baseline? It pushes PC gaming forward as well. Gamers WIN on every platform!