1 - they can raise the monthly price of gamepass.The reality is that a GamePass subscriber on SX is no more valuable than a subscriber with a One S. Subs are hardware independent, as will be services like XCloud... so why eat heavy losses on hardware and in so doing ruin any chance of the hardware side turning a profit.
https://venturebeat.com/2015/09/28/...-death-for-consoles-but-hes-bullish-on-games/Was the same guy saying Xbox 360 and PS3 will be the last console?
That was with the Kinect. They announced a version without the Kinect shortly after for ... . $399.
Xbox 360 was released at $399.
$400 Australian would be good.
Microsoft is selling the One X right now for $400. It seems insane to think at launch they’d sell 3 consoles all at $400 or below.
So how does this break down?
1. Lockhart at $199
2. One X at $299
3. Series X at $399
WTF
Are they gonna discontinue the One X?
How can they put a console out with 12GB of GDDR6 RAM, an APU with Zen2, an SSD, plastic box, shipping included for $200?The one X has been discontinued. so they
The one X has been discontinued. Retailers can't get new stock. So they are only going to be selling two SKU's going forward.
1. Lockhart at $199
2. Series X at $399
Lockhart replaces the One X
Microsoft is selling the One X right now for $400. It seems insane to think at launch they’d sell 3 consoles all at $400 or below.
So how does this break down?
1. Lockhart at $199
2. One X at $299
3. Series X at $399
WTF
Are they gonna discontinue the One X?
You mean the same MS that sold the OG Xbox at a loss ?This is MS. They will charge the highest price they can. The initial xbox fans would buy it. Then come the time when they have dried up they would do the "bargain sale" to boost sales again. There is absolutely no point in subsidizing the initial price because you will be supply constrained and be selling to your fanboys who would pay any price. Just look at the Xbox one launch.
Yeaaaaah no thanks. Like I’m sure MS are going to sell the console with a loss but not for 400source is Michael patcher though
I mean the same MS that sells a controller for £160 nowadays.You mean the same MS that sold the OG Xbox at a loss ?
The one X has been discontinued. so they
The one X has been discontinued. Retailers can't get new stock. So they are only going to be selling two SKU's going forward.
1. Lockhart at $199
2. Series X at $399
Lockhart replaces the One X
Wouldn’t surprise me.
Microsoft has absurd cash reserves. If they decided to undercut Sony, they could do so with ease.
But they will still need games. Compelling, AAA titles. Not Gamepass dross.
You know i'll laugh my arse off if that game ends up being brilliant, and gets tons of praise, just to give a big slap in the face of AAA snobs that cant see AA and Indie games for what they are.People will gladly pay even 599$ just to play amazing games like Orphan
This is MS. They will charge the highest price they can. The initial xbox fans would buy it. Then come the time when they have dried up they would do the "bargain sale" to boost sales again. There is absolutely no point in subsidizing the initial price because you will be supply constrained and be selling to your fanboys who would pay any price. Just look at the Xbox one launch.
No way. Its just not worth it to MS to subsidize the hardware on top of all their other promotions, such as for XBL and GamePass.
The reality is that a GamePass subscriber on SX is no more valuable than a subscriber with a One S. Subs are hardware independent, as will be services like XCloud... so why eat heavy losses on hardware and in so doing ruin any chance of the hardware side turning a profit.
Bottom line is that if you start out taking a $100 hit per unit, its going to take a long time for the economics of production to improve to the state that you are breaking even, also, RRP's rarely if ever rise so its a commitment for the entire life of the hardware.
Developers are likely to flock more to the next-gen console with the largest install base. I feel like Microsoft recognizes that this is a chicken and egg problem now (they didn't with the Xbox One and thought their domination with the 360 would just magically carry over). If they dump a billion dollars into "winning" the first year of the console war, they probably realize that will translate into better third party support, potential third party exclusives (or Game Pass exclusives), and more people buying Xbox in the future because "my friends are all playing on Xbox".It's interesting to think about. I just can't tell if throwing away a billion dollars is worth that first to 10 million sales goal. Even at $100 more, the PS5 would still be selling. So what is the best case scenario there, 10M vs 6M? And is it worth a billion dollars to make that happen? I really don't know.
I'm not new to gaming nor to these boards. The BOM for original xbox 360 (with HDD) was $525 not sure where you are getting a higher cost from. The BOM for the original PS3 was $800.You realize the 360 had a manufacturing cost of $715, right? Which means they sold the top-end model for a $316 loss. That's a bigger per-unit subsidized loss than Sony did for the top-end PS3 model at launch ($221 loss).
MS history doesn't start at XBO, but maybe you're just relatively new to gaming.
This assumes you know the BOM is at least $500, which you don't. We honestly don't know what the BOM is but seeing that MS and AMD have a lot of converging active interests in several markets, in addition to the volume of product orders, they are likely getting a very good deal on orders with AMD.
Sony might be getting a decent deal as well but I think those cost-savings have been eaten up by the flash memory controller I/O and cooling system, so in all honesty it wouldn't surprise me if PS5's overall BOM (including the controller) is higher than XSX's. And the Japanese side is already a bit conservative when it comes to pricing and costs, so there's a high chance they could try getting PS5 MSRP at a break-even point.
While $400 XSX might be a bit unrealistic, I can easily see $450 happening and MS not taking a heavy loss per system sold.
As things stand, Sony cannot hit that sweet spot, putting the momentum right back into MS hand
I'm not new to gaming nor to these boards. The BOM for original xbox 360 (with HDD) was $525 not sure where you are getting a higher cost from. The BOM for the original PS3 was $800.
Hah. You wish. Be ready to Shell out dh2000400 AED.
It will be 400 in all the currencies.
Oh come on, you are really gonna use that card ?I mean the same MS that sells a controller for £160 nowadays.