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Yakuza Kiwami = Review Thread -
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Son Of Sparda
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For me it's like this.kenzan! is the best yakuza game. period. strange, but true...
Story and characters:
Kenzan > Ishin
Everything else:
Ishin > Kenzan
I really love them both. It's a shame that Kenzan will probably never come to the west (it's understandable tho). I'm kinda hoping for an Ishin localization announcement at PSX.
Shadowman16
Member
I I completely forgot about that scene, its brilliant. Ah, I want to replay Yakuza 2 again now...
That's interesting because to me Ishin has the better story hook (Kiryu being part of the Shinsengumi as opposed to Kiryu being simply Miyamoto Musashi) =o
Yep. And I think that's were some of the hyperbole over the voice acting for the first comes from, it's too weird to hear any voice but the Japanese VA for the games anymore.
Sinh_Magnus
Member
I've read bad things about Ishin's story, while I thought Kenzan, which I played, had one of the best stories and characters of the series. It also had a good use of its setting, though I think Ishin won't have problems in that aspect.
The only think that had made me not import and play Ishin is the fact that playing Kenzan with english guides and subs videos for the story felt more like work than fun. I had to force myself to finish the game and it's a shame because I would probably rank it higher If I hadn't felt like that.
I saw that Ishin had a better guide for it, but I fear that even with that It will feel like work again.
Shadowman16
Member
I'd still recommend giving Ishin a try. Its a terrific game, the final 2-3 chapters have some of the best fights in the entire series, and it definitely has one of the best (if not the best) boss in the entire series (right up there with the first couple of games). It starts off like 0 really - really awesome set piece in the first chapter, then a few very short, very straight forward chapters but the back half of the game is non stop awesomeness.
Only point the game really felt like work to me was the completion list/friends stuff. Its pretty much the definition of the word "grind"!
AuthenticM
Member
Like I said in the other thread: my preorder copy was shipped this morning. It would be really crazy if I got it on Friday.
Shadowman16
Member
That sucks
Thankfully my Amazon order is still due next week, but I've noticed their Prime service has been slipping these last few orders. Might be tempted to swap to another shop if it continues...That sucks
I've noticed Amazon's becoming more and more shitty when it comes to games. Might drop them completely when it comes to games tbh.
Pre-ordered on Simplygames so it's all good now. Nothing can stop me playing this game on day one lol
That's weird. Simplygames still has the steel book as the 29th so hopefully that doesn't change.
Cjdamon042
Member
Yeah if you preorder the steel book version it doesnt arrive until the 16th of September for some reason. The regular edition says it arrives on the 29th however. No idea why.
TheRazielim
Member
Wait really? I have the Steelbook Ver. preordered but if it's going to arrive later I have no problem just picking up the regular edition. I have noticed my Steelbook order on Amazon still doesn't have a delivery day estimate, despite saying it'll release on the 29th. Should I cancel & go for the regular?
mikezilla2
Member
Pre ordered
the the others coming to the west in a remastered form ?
the the others coming to the west in a remastered form ?
lucebuce12
Member
No plans yet. But there's supposed to be an announcement by the dev two days from now so we'll know for sure then.
DrunkShogun
Member
Amazon has dispatched mine already surprisingly so just waiting on it now. Steelbook version as well.
bryanee
Member
My steel book from Amazon is arriving Tuesday.
Shadowman16
Member
Well... we might know for sure but at the same time they might not say anything about remasters. We shall see
lucebuce12
Member
If they don't say anything about the remasters then I'll just assume they're not coming tbh. Only other time left to make an announcement would be TGS.Well... we might know for sure but at the same time they might not say anything about remasters. We shall see
Shadowhaxor
Member
Tossing in our review as well. Sadly, we're only on OpenCritic, still pending on Metacritic.
4.5/5 - The Outerhaven Yakuza Kiwami Review
4.5/5 - The Outerhaven Yakuza Kiwami Review
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Man.. I don't think I've played Yakuza 2 since it first came out on the PS2. After Kiwami, and now that I have a computer which can do PCSX2, I think I'll need to pick up a copy of 2 again.
ThanksVision
Member
apologies if it has been asked but
is it dumb to jump into this game without playing zero? the $30 tag is tempting
is it dumb to jump into this game without playing zero? the $30 tag is tempting
Shadowman16
Member
I mean, they might just announce them next year? I'm not expecting every Yakuza announcement to happen this year, I expect them to space the announcements out over the next few years. Even if PS5 gets announced within the next year or two, I doubt Japanese devs will migrate over to the new hardware exclusively anytime (case in point, see Yakuza 6 which was released last December as the first PS4 exclusive Yakuza game!)
DrunkShogun
Member
Steelbook. From the U.K. if that holds any value. Just checked Amazon uk and they're still offering the steelbook for the august 29th.
Steelbook from Amazon UK.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You will be able to play this but will be puzzled at some scenes which recall the events of Zero. For the most part this is a self-contained game.
FYI for this remake, they actually went ahead and added some more story scenes to factor in the events of Zero, which obviously weren't there in the original release of Yakuza.
Also, Yakuza 0 is an amazing game and a great place to start the Yakuza franchise so if you're able to find a good deal on that game, I would highly recommend getting it too.
Man, I'm so jealous right now
I'll have to get my steelbook in-store on the launch day like a peasant.
BakedTanooki
Member
You won't have problems to understand stuff (story etc.), but Zero is such an incredible game dude.
Tossing my review into the pile as well.
http://wccftech.com/review/yakuza-kiwami-follow-the-money/
http://wccftech.com/review/yakuza-kiwami-follow-the-money/
I think if I wasn't so fresh off 0, I would've appreciated the complete remake more.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Even though it's down my list, I feel that 1 might have my favourite story in the series next to 2 and 0. This remake may elevate the story more especially with better cutscenes. It's really gritty and tragic. The rest of the series goes for a more over the top feel from 2 onwards but 1 has a really gritty, brutal sense to it all that's more in line with the Yakuza films of the 70s and 80s that the likes of Kinji Fukasaku used to make back then, whereas the games since then go for a more Takashi Miike influence, really over the top and crazy. Just my opinion.
MHWilliams
Member
And this is the problem with going Yakuza 0 > Yakuza Kiwami. Zero is a full featured better game. You want to go up, not down.
This is what I've been saying. Sure from a narrative perspective is a bit better to start with 0, but 0 is by far the most amazing game in the seried while Kiwami is a game with much less content and that uses PS2 animations for its cutscenes...
I'll add it to the OP
Son Of Sparda
Member
If you start with Kiwami and then move on to Zero, the story will lose a lot of its tensions. You will know beforehand who will end up where and how the things will eventually play out.
That's something that we as old time fans didn't have with Zero, so that might be something that's easy to forget when recommencing to people how they should play the series.. For us, the story of Zero wasn't about "what", but more about "how", cause we knew characters from earlier entries. But I'm sure for a lot of newcomers that tension of Zero's story is a lot more enjoyable since they don't even know what will happen to any of these characters. You will lose all of that if you start with Kiwami instead of Zero.
Also, what's wrong with starting the series, with arguably its best entry? First impression matters a lot and Zero makes a hell of an impression on newcomers to the series.
Not to mention the fact that they added more stuff to Kiwami so it would work more as a sequel to Zero.
That's something that we as old time fans didn't have with Zero, so that might be something that's easy to forget when recommencing to people how they should play the series.. For us, the story of Zero wasn't about "what", but more about "how", cause we knew characters from earlier entries. But I'm sure for a lot of newcomers that tension of Zero's story is a lot more enjoyable since they don't even know what will happen to any of these characters. You will lose all of that if you start with Kiwami instead of Zero.
Also, what's wrong with starting the series, with arguably its best entry? First impression matters a lot and Zero makes a hell of an impression on newcomers to the series.
Not to mention the fact that they added more stuff to Kiwami so it would work more as a sequel to Zero.
As someone who started with 0, I 100% agree. There's many moments in 0 that would have not been anywhere near as exciting if I knew who lived to move onto yakuza 1, and those who I would look at and go 'they must die in 0 cause there not in kiwami'
Still don't know what the plot of kiwami is or any of the other games so going in 100% blind.
davidwhangchoi
Member
i'm so jealous
AuthenticM
Member
Game arrived while I was out for breakfast. Meaning I have to wait until tomorrow after 13:00 to pick it up at the local drop point.
The next 26 hours are going to be unbearable. I should have fucking made breakfast myself.
The next 26 hours are going to be unbearable. I should have fucking made breakfast myself.