-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Xbox thought Bethesda/Zenimax was worth $10.5B at the time of purchase but they acquired them for $7.5B
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Suckers!
bitbydeath
Member
I wonder what they think now.
Draugoth
Gold Member
Todd now will feel The Sweet Little Lies
Trogdor1123
Member
Starfield? It’s done great.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Oh god when will these emails end?
its their worst rated rpg
Kilau
Member
ZehDon
Gold Member
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
This is the best game Mirkokrocop has ever released.
In Cold Blood
Banned
WTF? Starfield is a fucking banger, one of the best games so far this generation. People can try to talk shit about it to make themselves feel better, but it is fucking legit.
Trogdor1123
Member
It’s still a hit and a good game. It’s nothing for them to be ashamed of
Cert.in.Death
Member
Think of all that money they saved!
TrueGrime
Member
LOL. Worst rated RPG that sold over 230K $100 editions on steam alone and that obviously doesn't account for regular buys on PC and Xbox as well as premium editions on Xbox.
Guys, seriously... closing your eyes wishing Starfield is a failure doesn't make it a failure.
Last edited:
In Cold Blood
Banned
Without a doubt it was worth every penny.
The IP alone was worth Billions.
Starfield, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom, Quake, Wolfenstien, Prey etc.
Then there is the technology side of it with idtech, and their streaming technology.
Then you have amazing studios like Arkane, Bethesda, Machine Games, Idtech etc.
Best buy ever.
The IP alone was worth Billions.
Starfield, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom, Quake, Wolfenstien, Prey etc.
Then there is the technology side of it with idtech, and their streaming technology.
Then you have amazing studios like Arkane, Bethesda, Machine Games, Idtech etc.
Best buy ever.
NikuNashi
Member
83 meta, 5th best first week sales of the year, -87% drop off on second week.
I wouldnt pay 7.5 million for them let alone billion.
A.Romero
Member
I'm always amused at seeing people thinking they know better than professional analysts at these huge companies. These kind of decisions are not made because of Spencer's whims, they are well thought and analyzed situations that go through several hands before an offer is made.
I mean, they can still fail at obtaining the results they expect but putting a value on a company is math, not perception. If their analysts said they are worth 10 bil, they probably were.
I mean, they can still fail at obtaining the results they expect but putting a value on a company is math, not perception. If their analysts said they are worth 10 bil, they probably were.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
$7.5bn for all that IP and developers seems like a steal when compared to Activision.
Arguably the best gaming acquisition MS has made since the Xbox brand started, including Bungie/Halo.
Arguably the best gaming acquisition MS has made since the Xbox brand started, including Bungie/Halo.
Last edited:
Justin9mm
Member
You defend Starfield like people are insulting your honour. The game is good, yes! A fucking banger? One of the best this generation? Not really
Let me say, I like the game but the game has issues. It has a critic score of 84 which imo is probably around where it should be, that doesn't translate to banger.
Starfield needed to be a lot better and it has failed to meet expectations of being a console seller or the reason people subscribe to game pass.
Perrott
Gold Member
Reminder that you're defending the same "analysts" who have projected a target of 100M Game Pass users by 2028 between console, PC, mobile and cloud.
It's 2023 and they're still stuck below 30M, so let me doubt the part about them "knowing better" than anyone with common sense around here.
iHaunter
Member
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Yeah, it's kind of gob smacking actually.
DOOM, Wolfenstein, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Starfield, Dishonored, and now Hi-FI Rush, Ghostwire Tokyo, and Deathloop seems like a ridiculous amount of valuable IP for the amount Microsoft paid.
MarkMe2525
Member
Game rating don't pay the bills, it's done well from all reports.
NikuNashi
Member
Which reports? The 'engagement' ones?
MarkMe2525
Member
matter of fact......Which reports? The 'engagement' ones?
In Cold Blood
Banned
So Ghost of Tsushima is shit because it got a meta of 82? Obviously must be.
There were over two million people who paid for the game before it even released.
Over 10 million in a couple of weeks. It's massive, and growing.
Last edited:
In Cold Blood
Banned
People putting Starfield alongside Redfall, which is who I quoted are just trolling. Your energy should have been also pointed at that.
NikuNashi
Member
GOT exceeded expectations. Starfield was hyped as a game changer and fell way short. Apples and Oranges.
Last edited:
diffusionx
Gold Member
I wonder what their valuation model is. Bethesda obviously has lots of great IP but you need to turn it into cash flow. If you buy Elder Scrolls, like yea ok you can resell Skyrim and that brings in a trickle of money but you're going to be investing $300M-$400M into the new game before you start seeing any real return.
Starfield is very disappointing. I was hoping for a Skyrim tier release, it's not even Fallout 4.
how long did you rifle through MC before you found a Sony exclusive you can drop in these convos lmao
Starfield is very disappointing. I was hoping for a Skyrim tier release, it's not even Fallout 4.
Last edited:
The Pleasure
Member
In Cold Blood
Banned
Isn't it all about Meta? I mean, it's what people keep throwing around. So let me guess, meta got it wrong with GOT?
Fact is most games, including Sony's, don't get over 90 meta.
People using that to troll Starfield are warring.
Justin9mm
Member
Of course Redfall is not even in the same league as Starfield. Starfield is worlds above or should I say planets above Redfall. That is definitely trolling.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Well that is like Business 101. The name of the game is you always want to pay as little as possible and get a better ROI.
It’s not really newsworthy information / front page headline stuff that businesses like to save money. Sort of the whole point.
It’s not really newsworthy information / front page headline stuff that businesses like to save money. Sort of the whole point.
Last edited:
In Cold Blood
Banned
So GOT was expected to be really shit, but was only just shit, so that makes it a good game?
Fuck me, the mental gymnastics you trolls do to try and war is amazing. Hats off to you.
In Cold Blood
Banned
Happy as fuck.
NikuNashi
Member
After a converstaion with the mods I am not at liberty to discuss this issue any further, enjoy the rest of your day.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Tbh, great buy. Starfield, oblivion remake and fallout will be huge.
Owning ip like Doom and many more. They deffo got a deal.
Owning ip like Doom and many more. They deffo got a deal.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
GamePass subscriber growth has stagnated since acquiring Zenimax
Seems like so far it’s a dud. Did not meet their objectives at all
Last edited:
JTCx
Member
You what know else is legit? Starfield sucking.
Last edited:
In Cold Blood
Banned
I'm sitting here playing it and loving it, while you are having to convince yourself that it sucks so it doesn't hurt so much.
You would love it.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Most outlets think it’s rather mid, tbh.
Im playing it and think it sucks. I was hoping it wouldn’t because there’s some cool stuff there but plagued by mediocrity across the board
Im shocked anyone would think it’s the best this gen has to offer
Last edited:
JTCx
Member
Loadfield.
March Climber
Member
For anyone clicking into this thread: This thread is secretly yet another Starfield mudslinging thread.
GHG
Member
Phil on the receiving end of Todd's lies first hand. No refunds!
Phil and Todd were made for each other.
What a feedback loop that must be.
In Cold Blood
Banned
It'd always going to be dependent on new content. No one is going to sit there and pay for a service they arnt using.
The fact that still have 25-30 million people on it prior to Starfield is amazing.
From this year on their is a constant stream of good Xbox first party games coming down the pipeline.
With the Bethesda leak, we even know a bit more.
So from 2024 - 2027 you will have the following games dropping into GP from Microsoft first parties.
Hellblade 2, Avowed, Towerborne, Forza Horizon 6, Aria History Untold, Contraband, Fable, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Perfect Dark, Doom Zero, Indiana Jones, New Zenimax Online Game, Everwild, Gears 6, Ghostwire 2, The Outer Worlds 2, New Halo, New Double Fine Games etc etc etc.
And, on top of that, if ABK goes through, all Activision and Blizzard games into Gamepass every year, plus the back catalogue.
You don't think Gamepass is going to boom with all that content?
The biggest thing MS needs to do is sell 12 month and 6 month subs.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Revenue wise? Nope, not with Game Pass.