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Some 5 to 6 years later?What happens when ps controller battery degrades and stops working?
Some 5 to 6 years later?What happens when ps controller battery degrades and stops working?
Console wars?I had my white DS4 controller for about 5 years and there was no noticeable difference. They may not last forever but they will last you the entire generation and then some.
This battery argument is extremely silly console wars ammo. How stupid do you have to be to believe the battery in Sony controllers only last two years and will burn your house down?
They're not paying the same though. When you add up all the batteries bought over the years (a couple of them last about 4 to 6 days), I'm pretty sure they have spent enough to buy another controller.Xbox dudes got to convince themselves they're not getting screwed paying the same and getting less
4-6 days of constant straight gaming with no breaks, perhaps. Or maybe that's true if you're buying dogshit dollar store batteries. Before I got a P&C pack for the One pad I was using AA's with it and I was only replacing them around once a month.When you add up all the batteries bought over the years (a couple of them last about 4 to 6 dsys)
Pretty sure it's much easier and more practical on an Xbox controller.
Your joking ain’t you? I had battery’s on my PS4 pad go inside 18months, would charge but would get less than 2 hours out of them.Some 5 to 6 years later?
It should be mandatory to have replacable/rechargeable batteries where it's possible. Sealed batteries is planned obsolescence by design, and I'm not even entering in the ecological debate.
SoMy personal experience: I have had a DS4 for 6 (almost 7) years, and the battery is indeed degraded and lasting less time.
It runs for about 5 hours by my estimate (I turn vibration off, light dimmed). It's still serviceable. Won't buy a replacement just yet.
My DS3 never had any problem for 5 years I had it, that degrading doesn't seems to be ubiquitous.So
You have to make adjustments to make the battery last inside? Shame it wasn’t easy replaceable.
I get that it looks cool to not have a controller where you don’t change the battery but the practicality of that in the real world ain’t great
They get binned. Good thing then that unlike Li-ion packs common alkaline batteries aren't remotely environmentally dangerous and can safely go to landfill. They're also much easier to recycle, so there's that.What do you think happens to the disposable batteries packed in with every single controller and console sold?
They get binned. Good thing then that unlike Li-ion packs common alkaline batteries aren't remotely environmentally dangerous and can safely go to landfill. They're also much easier to recycle, so there's that.
I turn rumble off because it I don't particularly care for it. I didn't use rumble much when playing PS3. I doubt I will use haptics for long when I get a PS5 either. I'll probably turn that off after finishing Astro. The lightbar is a pointless waste of battery indeed, but less significant overall than people believe.So
You have to make adjustments to make the battery last inside? Shame it wasn’t easy replaceable.
I get that it looks cool to not have a controller where you don’t change the battery but the practicality of that in the real world ain’t great
It's there, but depending on gaming habits, you may or may not easily notice it. I didn't really notice anything until around the end of the PS3 generation.My DS3 never had any problem for 5 years I had it, that degrading doesn't seems to be ubiquitous.
Might be usage, I only played on weekends.It's there, but depending on gaming habits, you may or may not easily notice it. I didn't really notice anything until around the end of the PS3 generation.
Even the wife’s errrr... massager is now USB chargeable.
MS keeping things quaint
Its a Gaf thing to shit on xbox at all opportunities.Bought a stand and 2 recharable packs for £15. Don't get all the fuss.
Iv had PS controllers who's batteries got so bad the charge didn't last very long at all.
They both have their pros and cons. I don't know why xbox gets the brunt of it all.
I agree. I'm mostly a playstation gamer, but I never understood the obsession with the built in battery. When I had an xbox 360, I didn't use non-rechargeable batteries, I didn't buy the recharge-kit from microsoft, I just used my standard rechargeable batteries that I use for all kind of devices troughout my home. Doesn't everyone have these at home? With the dualshock, once the battery is getting old, you're fucked, simple as that.This is one aspect of the Xbox controllers that I prefer. Sure, you have to buy the rechargable battery pack separately...but you can buy the rechargeable battery pack and replace it without having to tear your controller apart, which, speaking from experience, is incredibly fiddly.
With the dualsense features, won't the aa batteries die pretty quick?Id like sony to release an aa vs of the new dualshock.
Everytime i start my ps4 my battery is cooked.
More like 2 but okaySome 5 to 6 years later?
LOL sure, 2 years, sure.More like 2 but okay
If the battery runs out, the battery runs out. Alternative err.... massage methods will probably be required.Now imagine her frustration if the battery ran out at a particular moment and she couldn't just reach for the fabled eneloop batteries and swap them out.
I agree. I'm mostly a playstation gamer, but I never understood the obsession with the built in battery. When I had an xbox 360, I didn't use non-rechargeable batteries, I didn't buy the recharge-kit from microsoft, I just used my standard rechargeable batteries that I use for all kind of devices troughout my home. Doesn't everyone have these at home? With the dualshock, once the battery is getting old, you're fucked, simple as that.
I never said it was impossible. I said the Xbox does it better because more options are better. And why talk about the dual shock 4 which already wasn't easy? How about Sony's latest controller? Just a simple little internal battery swap?Well sure. But you were insinuating it wasn't possible on PS4. It is, and is fairly straightforward to do.
Mobile Phone batteries def are worse after 2 years.LOL sure, 2 years, sure.
It's not like Sony has a choice. AA Batteries won't work on their controllers for a long time unless they strip off the mic, speaker, dualsense features,lights etc.Mobile Phone batteries def are worse after 2 years.
you think dualshock controllers are immune to this shit?
Maybe you should actually play on your ps4 instead of defending their shit online.
then you would have noticed that the controllers get worse.
It's not like Sony has a choice. AA Batteries won't work on their controllers for a long time unless they strip off the mic, speaker, dualsense features,lights etc.
Disassembling DualShock 4 Motherboard Assembly
Use this guide to disassemble the motherboard assembly from the front and rear cover.www.ifixit.com
Alkaline has a very similar energy density range to Li-ion (0.31 - 0.68 vs 0.32 - 0.79). Lithium Iron disulphide (Energizer Ultimate Lithium) on the other hand blows both out of the water with an energy density by mass of 1.07.If XBOX wants to implement the dualsense features as hinted in the feedback form by Microsoft, won't they have to do away with batteries? Those features would likely consume a lot of power.
XOne controller has none of those features though, how much do you think an Xbox controller with similar features would last?Alkaline has a very similar energy density range to Li-ion (0.31 - 0.68 vs 0.32 - 0.79). Lithium Iron disulphide (Energizer Ultimate Lithium) on the other hand blows both out of the water with an energy density by mass of 1.07.
In other words...no. A good pair of alkalines will last as long if not longer than a Li-ion pack, and EUL will shit on both from a great height. When I was using EULs in my Xbox One controller I only had to change them after a month to a month and a half.
Sigh. Longer than the Dualsense because 2 AA has more capacity than the battery Sony put in. See my post in this thread for detailsXOne controller has none of those features though, how much do you think an Xbox controller with similar features would last?
It's kind of irrelevant, no? With a P&C kit I don't get anywhere near the same kind of battery life as I did with the EULs (not surprising considering their energy densities) and alkalines were beating the P&C kit handily too, that will translate over to an Xbox controller with the same features as the DS5. Maybe you're looking at 3-5 weeks instead of 4-6 but you're still not going to have to worry about your AA's draining all that fast. Now granted, Lithium-iron disulphide batteries are non-rechargeable and as far as I know the only company that manufactures them is Energizer, they might even own the rights, so they are a bit more pricey...but you get what you pay for.XOne controller has none of those features though, how much do you think an Xbox controller with similar features would last?
same as the ps5 controller?XOne controller has none of those features though, how much do you think an Xbox controller with similar features would last?
That moment when you remember all the debates about rechargeable VS AA batteries only to find out that all this time you've had to use batteries because of a marketing deal...
Sigh. Longer than the Dualsense because 2 AA has more capacity than the battery Sony put in. See my post in this thread for details
It's kind of irrelevant, no? With a P&C kit I don't get anywhere near the same kind of battery life as I did with the EULs (not surprising considering their energy densities) and alkalines were beating the P&C kit handily too, that will translate over to an Xbox controller with the same features as the DS5. Maybe you're looking at 3-5 weeks instead of 4-6 but you're still not going to have to worry about your AA's draining all that fast. Now granted, Lithium-iron disulphide batteries are non-rechargeable and as far as I know the only company that manufactures them is Energizer, they might even own the rights, so they are a bit more pricey...but you get what you pay for.
My main point is , if by using AA, a supposedly Dualsense-esque Xbox controller doesn't provides a much longer battery life than the Dualsense then the advantage of having AA batteries diminishes. Presently, if the xbox controllers can last for 1-2 months or so then that justifies purchasing new AA batteries over simply recharging IMO. But if it gives something like 1 week or few days then that advantage doesn't justifies the cost of getting new batteries.same as the ps5 controller?
The point is when the battery’s degrade in the dual sense you can’t replace them you have to buy a new controller. It’s better to have options reguardless of the controllerMy main point is , if by using AA, a supposedly Dualsense-esque Xbox controller doesn't provides a much longer battery life than the Dualsense then the advantage of having AA batteries diminishes. Presently, if the xbox controllers can last for 1-2 months or so then that justifies purchasing new AA batteries over simply recharging IMO. But if it gives something like 1 week or few days then that advantage doesn't justifies the cost of getting new batteries.