Guilty_AI
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Guilty_AI
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Frayed Ends of Sanity
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Some FPS games I really enjoy but I've never cared for the realistic military theme so COD and Battlefield don't do much for me. Also certain first person games make me motion sick. The modern Doom games I love but only could play them for maybe an hour at a time before I needed to take a break.
zeldaring
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This game is definition of badass. what a game.But you mostly see hands and feet, what I’m talking about is full character animation.
As for the topic i like FPS just don't feel they are as immersive cause of reasons like you seen this gif.
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Danjin44
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Ugh
I absolutely can’t stand melee combat in FPS, for me it’s pure trash. I can’t even imagine play games like Sekiro or Bayonetta in first person.Also like I said before in last post I want to see character animate, ESPECIALLY in melee combat.
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Guilty_AI
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Imma bout to trigger youUgh
Danjin44
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Guilty_AI
Member
No, just to make you mad
kunonabi
Member
I find the first person perspective limiting in terms of the view and gameplay. Plus it always feels like you're controlling a big camera on wheels with a gun attached instead of an actual character. There have been a few games where the view is beneficial but I could probably count them on hand.
Danjin44
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It sometimes seems as though, lately, more and more people prefer third-person perspective over first-person in single-player games.
My running hypothesis is that it's because some subset of (predominantly younger) gamers have a sort of vicarious narcissism to which the third-person perspective appeals. This partially explains the popularity of cosmetic dlc.
My running hypothesis is that it's because some subset of (predominantly younger) gamers have a sort of vicarious narcissism to which the third-person perspective appeals. This partially explains the popularity of cosmetic dlc.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
Reasons why I don't play First Person Shooters
1. I suck at them
2. I don't like how you can't see your character
3. The camera can annoy me
4. Usually the game premise don't interest me
I only ever completed 4 FPS, they were Bioshock Remastered, Bioshock Infinite, Prey and Resident Evil 8
I recently got Far Cry 5 off a Steam Sale. Played it on easy and dropped it due to a section with alot enemies.
Another example is the first Deus Ex game made by SquareEnix. I got stuck early on due to you guessed it enemies and dropped it
I'll be playing the Dishonored and Fear games next year.
1. I suck at them
2. I don't like how you can't see your character
3. The camera can annoy me
4. Usually the game premise don't interest me
I only ever completed 4 FPS, they were Bioshock Remastered, Bioshock Infinite, Prey and Resident Evil 8
I recently got Far Cry 5 off a Steam Sale. Played it on easy and dropped it due to a section with alot enemies.
Another example is the first Deus Ex game made by SquareEnix. I got stuck early on due to you guessed it enemies and dropped it
I'll be playing the Dishonored and Fear games next year.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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I didn't know they added a Third Person mode
ZoukGalaxy
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Shoot, hide, heal.
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thegame983
Member
Destiny ruined shooters for me.
No other shooter comes close to its gameplay, but I would also rather gouge out my eyes then play destiny again.
No other shooter comes close to its gameplay, but I would also rather gouge out my eyes then play destiny again.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
What??? How feeling more that it's you inside/the char of the game is less immersive???
? Jedi Knight games. Jedi Academy single saber masterpiece of melee combat.
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March Climber
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You playing Destiny or CoD?Shoot, hide, heal.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Cyberpunk 2077 should have had a Third Person Mode. I Used to be a huge fan of CDProjeckRed but not anymore
Danjin44
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Except I don’t feel like I’m inside the character, instead I’m just controlling floating camera.
Guilty_AI
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True, but that style of combat in third person is rarer.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
My other issue
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Doom Eternal is one of the best games ever made in modern times. Doom is one of the best games ever made in classic times. The FPS genre is alive and well with cod games releasing yearly with record breaking sales, boomer shooters on steam are selling like hot bread, who told you no one likes FPS's? Maybe experience gaming outside of gaf, the people here are a minority.
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BlackTron
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I like FPS for multiplayer. Controller autoaim along with crossplay ruined the balancing. I now have to play perfect with a mouse to use a sniper rifle how a controller player can easily. I still play, but not as much, and took my motivation out of buying many games.
Overwatch doesn't have this problem but the entire rest of the game got ruined with 2.
Anybody know of other modern games without this issue?
Overwatch doesn't have this problem but the entire rest of the game got ruined with 2.
Anybody know of other modern games without this issue?
Guilty_AI
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who said no one likes FPSs?
The Cockatrice
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Guilty_AI
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since when plenty = everyone? Are you high?
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The Cockatrice
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You know well I didnt mean everyone. It was a generalization based on your generalization. Fine change the word no one to people.
Guilty_AI
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Theres a darn big difference between "plenty don't like" to "no one likes" even as generalizations. But whatever, i'm not discussing semantics, go lick sand or something.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Funny how you derailed my question because you know your main question/topic is dumb af. Go eat sand or whatever.
Danjin44
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Calm down no one is saying is FPS is not popular, its one of the most popular genre out there...his just simply asking why some people in GAF don't enjoy them.
BbMajor7th
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They're just a bit awkward. When you stop to imagine how your character might look with every item held permanently at chest height, it's hard to unsee.
I also think most first-persons aren't first person at all - they're second person. Every other character talks directly at you, which makes the narrative come across in second person. It's weird in books, it would be very weird in movies and it's pretty weird in video games too.
I suspect it's so popular with Western devs as we tend to have a more egocentric mindset - the story should be about 'us' rather than someone else - you see this in the marketing too: 'Be the Batman', 'Become Legend', etc.
Me, I don't want to be 'in' the story, I want to watch it unfold, I don't want characters to look me dead in the eye and say 'You do remember me don't you?', I want them to interact with one another, and I don't want to watch my character do daft things pouring water over one hand to heal themselves because that's basically all the artists had to work.with.
I also look at it as a compromise from the early days (like fixed cameras and pre-rendered backdrops). We made do because fully body animations were very hard to get right and make control well. Now we've cracked that, first person feels like pastiche.
/Rant (y'all did ask though)
I also think most first-persons aren't first person at all - they're second person. Every other character talks directly at you, which makes the narrative come across in second person. It's weird in books, it would be very weird in movies and it's pretty weird in video games too.
I suspect it's so popular with Western devs as we tend to have a more egocentric mindset - the story should be about 'us' rather than someone else - you see this in the marketing too: 'Be the Batman', 'Become Legend', etc.
Me, I don't want to be 'in' the story, I want to watch it unfold, I don't want characters to look me dead in the eye and say 'You do remember me don't you?', I want them to interact with one another, and I don't want to watch my character do daft things pouring water over one hand to heal themselves because that's basically all the artists had to work.with.
I also look at it as a compromise from the early days (like fixed cameras and pre-rendered backdrops). We made do because fully body animations were very hard to get right and make control well. Now we've cracked that, first person feels like pastiche.
/Rant (y'all did ask though)
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The Cockatrice
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I cringe when people say calm down as if im punching or raging lmao. He was being a dick and I replied in the same manner. States he aint here to argue semantics, yet the first thing he does is argue semantics. First of all, his topic is called "why dont you like fps's", not "why MOST of you.." or "why SOME of you" which easily implies everyone. Calm down.
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Danjin44
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Johnny2Bad
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A little off topic but has anyone seen Hardcore Henry? That whole frikin movie is in FP.
The last sp fps game I recall playing and completing was the 1st Crysis on pc. They just got monotonous like 3d space invaders. If you're under a certain age you probably can't relate to that description so much. lol.
I just got tired of the "gimmick." The mowing down of 1000s of dumb AI soldiers/monsters. But from 1995-2005, I was playing lots of fps shooters. Eventually just became been there, done that. Graphics are much nicer these days. But the worlds are still largely static.
mp fps games are a different story. I was still playing those up until the past year or two when I got out of the habit and haven't got back into it.
Helping me not get back into the habit is a mild distaste for the general community in those games and a lack of matchmaking. Wasn't a huge fan of the new shop til you drop trend in fps gaming either, ie BR games. Felt like they could have streamlined the shop til you drop part. Who knew players would love spending the first 5-10 minutes every game picking the same sort of stuff up off the ground before shooting each other? Nevermind love dying right away and doing all the loading and shop until you drop again. Also was getting tired of all the time spent in menus tweaking settings. And constant patching. You get used to something and they change it. Half the time for the worse. Bugs didn't help.
I did get into playing Splatoon 2 mp for a year or so when it was released. And thought that was well done. 3rd person shooter though technically speaking.
I just got tired of the "gimmick." The mowing down of 1000s of dumb AI soldiers/monsters. But from 1995-2005, I was playing lots of fps shooters. Eventually just became been there, done that. Graphics are much nicer these days. But the worlds are still largely static.
mp fps games are a different story. I was still playing those up until the past year or two when I got out of the habit and haven't got back into it.
Helping me not get back into the habit is a mild distaste for the general community in those games and a lack of matchmaking. Wasn't a huge fan of the new shop til you drop trend in fps gaming either, ie BR games. Felt like they could have streamlined the shop til you drop part. Who knew players would love spending the first 5-10 minutes every game picking the same sort of stuff up off the ground before shooting each other? Nevermind love dying right away and doing all the loading and shop until you drop again. Also was getting tired of all the time spent in menus tweaking settings. And constant patching. You get used to something and they change it. Half the time for the worse. Bugs didn't help.
I did get into playing Splatoon 2 mp for a year or so when it was released. And thought that was well done. 3rd person shooter though technically speaking.
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TheInfamousKira
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I voted "I've tried very few or none..."
Not because I explicitly dislike FPS, just because like...it's usually not a genre that catches my eye. There are exceptions, albeit dated ones. Counter Strike, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Metroid Prime series, RE7 and 8. If it's a game that's getting rave reviews from people I trust, or if the setting or story catches my eye, I'll play the shit out of it.
Not because I explicitly dislike FPS, just because like...it's usually not a genre that catches my eye. There are exceptions, albeit dated ones. Counter Strike, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Metroid Prime series, RE7 and 8. If it's a game that's getting rave reviews from people I trust, or if the setting or story catches my eye, I'll play the shit out of it.
ProgenitorCastle
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Are you sure?
Actual answer: It's hard to say...between not being that good at many of them, struggling to find a control setup for them that clicks, etc...first person games are up there with turn based rpgs in genres I play less compared to more of my favorite genres. However, there are a few first person games I enjoy the heck out of like Quake 1, ZombiU, the Bioshock games, Metroid Prime series that hit certain satisfaction zones that trascend these and make me enjoy first person.
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Last Hearth
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They give me motion sickness.
Humdinger
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Three reasons I can identify:
1. In one way, I find them boring. The actions required are very simple -- aim cursor, pull trigger, pew pew, boom boom, kill this guy, kill that guy. (I know that's a little reductionistic.) I've played enough, so that I get a "been there, done that" feel.
2. In another way, though, I find them too tense/exciting. The games are always trying to ratchet up your excitement, keep you on your toes, stoke your adrenalin. Over the long haul, I find that tiring rather than enjoyable. I prefer a more relaxed experience.
3. The stories and characters usually are pretty basic. It's all about the action. That's fine, but I like games with interesting characters and storylines.
1. In one way, I find them boring. The actions required are very simple -- aim cursor, pull trigger, pew pew, boom boom, kill this guy, kill that guy. (I know that's a little reductionistic.) I've played enough, so that I get a "been there, done that" feel.
2. In another way, though, I find them too tense/exciting. The games are always trying to ratchet up your excitement, keep you on your toes, stoke your adrenalin. Over the long haul, I find that tiring rather than enjoyable. I prefer a more relaxed experience.
3. The stories and characters usually are pretty basic. It's all about the action. That's fine, but I like games with interesting characters and storylines.
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Grildon Tundy
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If I may be pedantic, I agree that the relative greatness to their contemporaries has not been surpassed by modern FPS games. FPS games now are just as good as those--but it's just not enough.
InterMusketeer
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I don't dislike them, just feels like most of 'em aren't made for me anymore. Lots of BR games. Lots of narrative-driven cinematic games. Lots of co-op. Lots of MTX. Quality has seemingly dropped across the board. Because of that I just don't pay much attention to them anymore.
I tried Hell let Loose, which is cool, but it runs like shit and is a bit too hardcore for me.
Now that I think of it, I wonder how that SWAT successor is coming along.
I tried Hell let Loose, which is cool, but it runs like shit and is a bit too hardcore for me.
Now that I think of it, I wonder how that SWAT successor is coming along.
ReBurn
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I never see my hands when I'm walking in real life. But in FPS there they are bobbing in front of me the whole time. That's not immersive, that's nauseating.
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