• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

When will western devs realize that femininity sells?

Are we ever going to see femininity back in western games?


  • Total voters
    417
That is not how character looks during gameplay

And more manly comment was made by devs during an interview


Fa7BxIgWYAATQVV
 
That is not how character looks during gameplay

And more manly comment was made by devs during an interview
She is cute af. It's the stupid hair that makes her look ugly. Any headgear that hides it improves her looks 100%.

She may be a bland character and not be very feminine. But she ain't ugly.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
So your type?
Bro wtf, that sounds kinda personal. Hope you didn't get triggered by my shitpost. :messenger_grinning_sweat:

But since you ask... no, I like my women clean and smelling like flowers. Going down there just to realize it smells like fish is no cool at all.

I love redheads tho. Heard that at some point they might go extinct, which would sadden me to no end.

Anyway, wish you all a good day of videogames.
 
Last edited:

RoboFu

One of the green rats
This thread reminds me that I would love to do a FF14 mod with the Golden Girls..

Thank you for being a friend…
 
You can go as woke as you want and not go broke if your games is good.

You can go all anti-woke as you want and go broke if your game is crap.
 
Last edited:

KàIRóS

Member
Nobody in this thread is even discussing those attributes, though.

It’s been entirely about looks.

True that's why I've kind of given up on the thread.

I would argue the bigger problem is the personalities given to the females nowadays not necessarily their looks, women are represented in a very masculine way in western media in general.
 

RespawnX

Member

Sex Does Not Sell: Effects of Sexual Advertising Parameters on Women Viewers’ Implicit and Explicit Recall of Ads and Brands

When Sex Doesn't Sell

Does Sex Really Sell? Paradoxical Effects of Sexualization in Advertising on Product Attractiveness and Purchase Intentions

And so on. sex does not endorse your sales goals. End of story. If you want to yerk you are free to use a porn platform of your choice.
Game characters need personality. I don't care if they look like ass fuck a girl, a boy or both, as long as they have an imerging story. On the other hand, the lack of such qualities cannot be hidden by any aesthetic attribute. Let it be an average woman as long as she has personality. Those who define people by their appearance have obviously not yet understood fundamental aspects of life.
Better change your attitude if you don't want to stay virgin the rest of your life.
 

MarkMe2525

Member
Gulf of Tolkin incident conspiracy theory was conspiracy theory until proven. Same on MK-Ultra. Same on government spying until Snowden disclosure.
Confirmation bias for sure. There are also 321,578 crackpot conspiracy theories that are just fantasy.
 
Last edited:

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
You realize humans don't look like that second one, right?
 

Fredrik

Member
Not the fat ones.

Admittedly, there’s an outside chance that I might be generalising.
So what does fat lesbians like then?
I admittedly have extremely little experience in this subject. Bring down my world if you can, I probably need it.
 

Lupin25

Member
I got to this thread pretty fucking late…

…But I was NOT disappointed. 😂

My thoughts are that western devs prioritize designing games catered for everyone and most people AREN’T pretty in real life lol.

It’s kind of what happened once devs went for the more “realistic” design route, but that doesn’t mean there still aren’t super sexy girls in games.

Just less.

All of this is subjective tho because we don’t find all the same people more or less attractive/ugly.

In the end, these are fucking games. No should really care THAT much, I care more about the QUALITY of the game and if it lives up to my purchase!
 
Last edited:
Yep, Bethesda having the baddest bitches in videogames was the secret to Elder Scrolls' and Fallout's success the whole time, and nobody knew it.

Powerful Women GIF by HBO Max
 

Fredrik

Member
My thoughts are that western devs prioritize designing games catered for everyone and most people AREN’T pretty in real life lol.
So we’re doing escapism and bring aliens and demons into our games because escapism is awesome but then we decide to uglify game characters to not be too unrealistic?

I make my own game. Main character deliberately looks like all the sliders are going past the max value 😇 Tbh there is nothing realistic in there. Except maybe trees. And clouds I guess. Kids come up with enemy designs, it’s living rocks and big mushrooms spitting flies etc. Kids are awesome at thinking outside of the box! 👌
 

Tangerine

Member
Who's trying to take hot girls from my games? Antifa? Figures.

Watching the rad Brad play saints row is giving me PTSD. So bad. He seems to be liking it. No comments on the cringe factor of the main protagonists so far. Maybe it's a sponsored let's play...either that or there's no accounting for taste.

GTA6 could use it as a case study as to what not to do. Every cloud.
 

Lupin25

Member
So we’re doing escapism and bring aliens and demons into our games because escapism is awesome but then we decide to uglify game characters to not be too unrealistic?

I make my own game. Main character deliberately looks like all the sliders are going past the max value 😇 Tbh there is nothing realistic in there. Except maybe trees. And clouds I guess. Kids come up with enemy designs, it’s living rocks and big mushrooms spitting flies etc. Kids are awesome at thinking outside of the box! 👌

Basically.

Realistic fiction.

So yeah, you could say it’s art direction, you could say it’s just a natural evolution of graphical fidelity, or even just a “wider” representation of the general public.
 
Last edited:

Krathoon

Member
Really, that first Crystal Dynamics Tomb Raider fully realized Lara Coft and the reboot made her more realistic. Made it more of a survival game. I like both versions. The Core Design version is kinda wobbly now.
 

Fredrik

Member
Basically.

Realistic fiction.

So yeah, you could say it’s art direction, you could say it’s just a natural evolution of graphical fidelity, or even just a “wider” representation of the general public.
I don’t think graphical fidelity has anything to do with it, it’s no doubt art direction and in some cases a fear/drive to get the PR they want.

Cyberpunk 2077 annoys me, on the one hand they clearly wanted to be controversial and get PR as a controversial game, on the other hand they went super meh with the main character and both the man and woman just looks like a random fitness person and you have no choices except for the dick and breast size. I still love the game.
NPCs have lots of variety though so I guess there was too much work getting all the protags clothes to fit 🤷‍♂️
 

Whitecrow

Banned

Sex Does Not Sell: Effects of Sexual Advertising Parameters on Women Viewers’ Implicit and Explicit Recall of Ads and Brands

When Sex Doesn't Sell

Does Sex Really Sell? Paradoxical Effects of Sexualization in Advertising on Product Attractiveness and Purchase Intentions

And so on. sex does not endorse your sales goals. End of story. If you want to yerk you are free to use a porn platform of your choice.
Game characters need personality. I don't care if they look like ass fuck a girl, a boy or both, as long as they have an imerging story. On the other hand, the lack of such qualities cannot be hidden by any aesthetic attribute. Let it be an average woman as long as she has personality. Those who define people by their appearance have obviously not yet understood fundamental aspects of life.
Better change your attitude if you don't want to stay virgin the rest of your life.
Sexuality GRANTS ATTENTION. That's one thing you have for free over ugly unnattractive characters.

So, if the game is ALSO GOOD, the extra attention brings more sales. It's called marketing.

Why do you need to spin it that hard?
 
Last edited:

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Cyberpunk 2077 annoys me, on the one hand they clearly wanted to be controversial and get PR as a controversial game, on the other hand they went super meh with the main character and both the man and woman just looks like a random fitness person and you have no choices except for the dick and breast size. I still love the game.
NPCs have lots of variety though so I guess there was too much work getting all the protags clothes to fit 🤷‍♂️

I was disappointed to see that Switch Sports didn’t allow me to adjust dick size. I’m guessing it would give an unfair advantage in Tennis, so they left it out.
 

ShadowNate

Member
The games with a super uggo main character do stand out, but I don't think they are taking over the industry or anything. Alloy did look pretty in Forbidden West, even though I do enjoy those meme images where she's super fat -- always good for a chuckle.

It is a conscious choice, to go with a character looking like the chic in ME: Andromeda, but it doesn't happen at developer level, and I guess whatever point they are trying to make (which is kind of obvious; "not all women look like models" has for some reason be hammered by having you play as an ugly woman, complete with... damaged facial animations). If it's done badly, only for ideological purposes then I'll probably avoid the game, since it's not really addressed or appealing to me.

However, this "cuts" both sides. There was at least one mod for Half Life 2 that offered a model for Alyx, which made her look like a hooker. The original model for her is very pleasant in the eyes and completely fitting with the premise of the game. This is just one counter-example that I vividly recall, but there probably are more like these. Also not appealing to me.
 
Hoping for Phantom Hellcat. Not necessarily supersexy just fit and regular real life level of feminine attractiveness. Like Alyx Vance.
 

NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
People on both sides are just as closed off. It’s like the people against beautiful women have this thought that beautiful women cannot be smart, brave, or strong. It’s just another side escapism.
It’s more like the people designing these characters have this thought that smart, brave, strong women cannot be beautiful.

They also seem to think that it’s somehow better that a male gamer controls a smart, brave, strong woman than a beautiful woman.
 

RespawnX

Member
Sexuality GRANTS ATTENTION. That's one thing you have for free over ugly unnattractive characters.

So, if the game is ALSO GOOD, the extra attention brings more sales. It's called marketing.

Why do you need to spin it that hard?

Attention ist only the first step during consumer journey towards conversion, satisfaction and later on to loyality. It's not that hard.
 
Top Bottom