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When will western devs realize that femininity sells?

Are we ever going to see femininity back in western games?


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Tumle

Member
It's interesting how progresive people become so progresive that they are ok with strereotyping whole country, as long as it's against established "enemy" of "the message"
who the fuck said i was progressive?
I don't like playing victim, like both the woke and anti-woke people like to do, and im not associated with either group..
also it was a joke, stop getting triggered ;)
 

Monjiro

Neo Member
who the fuck said i was progressive?
I don't like playing victim, like both the woke and anti-woke people like to do, and im not associated with either group..
also it was a joke, stop getting triggered ;)

To be fair lonely women in Japan is also very often occurance. Main problem is that young people in general tend to pursue relationships much less then earlier, young people tend to live longer with their parents. And if Japan likes having attractive females in games, western cultures "did not run away from this at all". USA and Europe took beauty away from games - Onlyfans is booming instead.
 

Tumle

Member
To be fair lonely women in Japan is also very often occurance. Main problem is that young people in general tend to pursue relationships much less then earlier, young people tend to live longer with their parents. And if Japan likes having attractive females in games, western cultures "did not run away from this at all". USA and Europe took beauty away from games - Onlyfans is booming instead.
of course Japanese woman also stay single, its a cultural problem. even up in there mid 30's the still dont want to settle down.
there is even a nickname for them "Herbivore men" in the west we call them "incels".

And all this talk about taking away the hot sexy women in western computergames, is so overblown.. the anti-woke people are just as whiny as the woke people, but somehow they want a free victim card..
there are still beautiful woman in western videogames! There is now also, not so beautiful woman in western videogames.. deal with it!
 
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I totally agree, when are we gonna start getting some beauties like these.

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There is no conspiracy, Everyone just doesn't want the exact same thing as you do.


There is an expression for women like these: They have nice faces,

or another one: she has such a good personality.

They certainly are not ugly tho... But that one with the weight on her hips does look uncanny.
 

Monjiro

Neo Member
of course Japanese woman also stay single, its a cultural problem. even up in there mid 30's the still dont want to settle down.
there is even a nickname for them "Herbivore men" in the west we call them "incels".

And all this talk about taking away the hot sexy women in western computergames, is so overblown.. the anti-woke people are just as whiny as the woke people, but somehow they want a free victim card..
there are still beautiful woman in western videogames! There is now also, not so beautiful woman in western videogames.. deal with it!

So women doesn't want to settle down, but men are incels. Funny.

Either way, returning to games. I would disagree, because some movements in western countries (mostly USA) is actively pursuing to force their standards on Japanese games.

So no, if USA can't "deal with it", why should Japan be quiet?
 
I don't think most gamers care about this stuff at all. I mean, how many games are there actually that suffered a significant loss in sales because the women in them weren't feminine enough? Seems like the ones people here love to bitch about either sell really well (TLOU 2) or have tons of other stuff wrong with them that would more convincingly explain why they did badly (ME Andromeda).
 

Monjiro

Neo Member
I don't think most gamers care about this stuff at all. I mean, how many games are there actually that suffered a significant loss in sales because the women in them weren't feminine enough? Seems like the ones people here love to bitch about either sell really well (TLOU 2) or have tons of other stuff wrong with them that would more convincingly explain why they did badly (ME Andromeda).
People who have problem with that are buying other games. Though gaming industry is huge in general now, so there should be enough "space" for every taste in games
 

Doom85

Member
This woman knows what's up. She's talking about the MCU phase 4 being basically, woman = great, white men = evil

Suuuuuure, you know except if we ignore:

Bucky: is making amends for what happened while he was brainwashed, but is never presented as a bad person
John Walker: despite arguably doing what would be considered disrespectful to the mantle, is still given a redemption moment.
Loki: given a more generous redemption arc than he arguably deserves. Meanwhile Sylvie
kills Kang and potentially starts a multiverse war that will cost countless lives
Mobius: presented as completely likable and sympathetic, meanwhile Ravenna
is a villain who stabs him in the back
Clint/Hawkeye: presented as a hero, and gives Kate a lot of good advice to help her become a hero
Kate’s stepfather: appears to be evil,
the actual bad guy is Kate’s mom
Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Peter Parker: do I need to elaborate here? Also, Dr. Octopus and Green Goblin
the former helps the heroes once freed from the AI control, and Osborn’s mental state is portrayed sympathetically showing the actual Norman is not responsible for what the Goblin serum did to his mind
Dr. Strange: his movie empathizes with his unhappiness. He also advises
the Illuminati not to underestimate Wanda, and they ignore him, resulting in their deaths, including two women. Meanwhile, Xavier is the only one who listens to Strange. Also, while Wanda’s mind is corrupted by the Darkhold, she did ignorantly choose to use it despite Agatha’s warnings, so all the blood is still on her hands.
Thor:
defeats Zeus single handedly, talks the villain Gorr into doing the right thing, Gorr himself is shown sympathetically as a man cruelly betrayed by his god and then had his mind warped by a cursed sword, and Thor is now a kick ass father.
Bruno: a kind and supportive friend to Kamala

Anyone saying that Phase 4 is anti-men or anti-white men clearly has A) not watched it, B) watched it and chosen to ignore reality so they can be all drama queen over nothing, or C) watched it, are fully aware there’s no anti-men agenda but chose to make a video raging about the concept anyway because rage videos = clickbait which means views and you’re one of them who apparently got roped in. So to everyone who gives ignorant shit like this views like a moth to the flame, hey thanks for keeping this obnoxious YouTube rage drama alive! All praise the algorithm!

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ResurrectedContrarian

Suffers with mild autism
I never understand this argument...this take acts like suits have never been in charge...like the 80s, 90 and 2000's were a special timeframe in which devs got to be a creative as they wanted.... times change...western companies constantly shift gears to whats popular in the general population.

...

Devs 5 , 10, 15, 20 and and 30 years ago likely had the same level of creativity as devs of today. The parameters have just changed and some people dont like these new parameters because it doesnt fit their taste.

Spoken like someone who is either younger, or just hasn’t paid attention to the massive expansion of the managerial class & corporate media consolidation.

It is absolutely a very different playing field now than in the earlier days of gaming. Go back and read accounts from the devs who created landmark games that defined genres, like the making of Doom, or even of early Lucasarts adventures, or Nintendo classics. They were made by small teams of like-minded guys who came together very spontaneously to pursue their passionate ideas, with almost zero “this is the kind of game you need to make” initiative driving the project from above, and with no HR/PR/corporate types steering the game to fit trendy agendas or ensure diversity/representation.

Pretty much every original gameplay concept and technical idea in existence came from little spontaneous groups of guys like that, and the rest of the industry just reuses and rearranges those ideas with new coats of paint or characters.

This is not just a gaming trend; look at anything, like universities, which were once faculty-driven but now are 90% managerial positions, administrators, diversity officers, etc. Unfortunately the corporate managerial mindset and style has infected most institutions; I personally know faculty who say their prior freedom of scholarship is now replaced by being a managed part of a corporate brand.

Particularly this part:
times change...western companies constantly shift gears to whats popular in the general population

There's the problem with today's corporate mindset: they're not even chasing "what's popular" per se, but are chasing nothing other than the idea of "expand the base" which translates to "sanitize anything which is associated with the kinds of guys who actually created and drive these genres, replace it with affirming content that can bring in non-traditional gamers." But what's so absurd about this is that they try to hide a purely cynical economic idea of expanding the cu$tomer base into some kind of moral stance, as if more people playing saniitized and generic games is a social good and we should all get on board. Nonsense.
 

Tangerine

Member
Suuuuuure, you know except if we ignore:

Bucky: is making amends for what happened while he was brainwashed, but is never presented as a bad person
John Walker: despite arguably doing what would be considered disrespectful to the mantle, is still given a redemption moment.
Loki: given a more generous redemption arc than he arguably deserves. Meanwhile Sylvie
kills Kang and potentially starts a multiverse war that will cost countless lives
Mobius: presented as completely likable and sympathetic, meanwhile Ravenna
is a villain who stabs him in the back
Clint/Hawkeye: presented as a hero, and gives Kate a lot of good advice to help her become a hero
Kate’s stepfather: appears to be evil,
the actual bad guy is Kate’s mom
Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Peter Parker: do I need to elaborate here? Also, Dr. Octopus and Green Goblin
the former helps the heroes once freed from the AI control, and Osborn’s mental state is portrayed sympathetically showing the actual Norman is not responsible for what the Goblin serum did to his mind
Dr. Strange: his movie empathizes with his unhappiness. He also advises
the Illuminati not to underestimate Wanda, and they ignore him, resulting in their deaths, including two women. Meanwhile, Xavier is the only one who listens to Strange. Also, while Wanda’s mind is corrupted by the Darkhold, she did ignorantly choose to use it despite Agatha’s warnings, so all the blood is still on her hands.
Thor:
defeats Zeus single handedly, talks the villain Gorr into doing the right thing, Gorr himself is shown sympathetically as a man cruelly betrayed by his god and then had his mind warped by a cursed sword, and Thor is now a kick ass father.
Bruno: a kind and supportive friend to Kamala

Anyone saying that Phase 4 is anti-men or anti-white men clearly has A) not watched it, B) watched it and chosen to ignore reality so they can be all drama queen over nothing, or C) watched it, are fully aware there’s no anti-men agenda but chose to make a video raging about the concept anyway because rage videos = clickbait which means views and you’re one of them who apparently got roped in. So to everyone who gives ignorant shit like this views like a moth to the flame, hey thanks for keeping this obnoxious YouTube rage drama alive! All praise the algorithm!

Neon Genesis Evangelion Clap GIF
Ignorant shit? That's a bit harsh to say to a woman of color. She's entitled to her opinion just like you are of course, however wrong you are. I find her argument far more convincing than you're attempt at a rebuttal.

Guess I'm a racist/sexist/transphobe, just like her! Oh noooooooo... *Rolls eyes*

If this MCU thing existed in a vacuum I'd feel differently. But as things stand the current culture and attempts to force it in a certain direction or rather muzzle it like a dog; is just one piece of a puzzle that I feel I have less than half the pieces too, but I can still see the ugly picture in front of me taking shape.

If you can't see the very obvious, pervasive woke agenda, across film, gaming, TV, advertisements, comic books, society at large... then you are in my opinion either ignorant of what's going on, or brainwashed yourself, like you seem to think I am. No one thinks they are in the cult, the echo chamber etc. Yes I realise the irony of that statement.

You need only look at the $80 million cancellation of Batgirl and countless other woke projects canceled at Netflix, to see there is a problem. Or the failure of modern woke comic books. There are too many examples to count now. Majority don't want it. It doesn't play well with test audiences.

If it's not thrust in one's face and it's not the focus of the game or film, with a good story and all the rest, it can work and has done... But very often it's so on the nose and unsubtle and is the point of the piece of media, rather than the story, gameplay etc. The activism comes first. This very often fails. This is what she was arguing in the YouTube vid.

Most people are sick of it. The majority of people don't want woke politics in their games, films etc. This isn't contentious any more, even with the woke mob ready to figuratively lynch any non believers/cancel them/get them fired... whatever. The West is so fractured/divided now and it's by design. To distract from the serious issues going on. You are a useful idiot and I'm just an idiot for adding logs to the fire tbh.

People want top gun maverick. People want manga in the west over comic books. People want good games without political agendas. I don't want MY politics in games or YOURS or anyone elses, unless politics is necessary for the plot.

Woke politics is the main reason, to answer OPs question, we have less and less studios taking risks and having pretty, thin, hot women in games has become just ONE problem in the eyes of the cathedral of wokeness. So we will get less and less of that as a result because the left have cultural power, although perhaps that's beginning to change.

Remain willfully ignorant. You are clearly very good at it ;) I know I'm not being the bigger person here, especially after I said the government wants us all at each others throats. Something to reflect on perhaps.
 

Roxkis_ii

Member
They are trying desperately get rid of the idea ,that games sexualise and objectify women, only way to that to do that, is to make them ugly, so expect a lot more ugly females going forwards, not much we can do about it.
But there is something you can do about it. Dont buy the game!
 

aclar00

Member
Spoken like someone who is either younger, or just hasn’t paid attention to the massive expansion of the managerial class & corporate media consolidation.

It is absolutely a very different playing field now than in the earlier days of gaming. Go back and read accounts from the devs who created landmark games that defined genres, like the making of Doom, or even of early Lucasarts adventures, or Nintendo classics. They were made by small teams of like-minded guys who came together very spontaneously to pursue their passionate ideas, with almost zero “this is the kind of game you need to make” initiative driving the project from above, and with no HR/PR/corporate types steering the game to fit trendy agendas or ensure diversity/representation.

Pretty much every original gameplay concept and technical idea in existence came from little spontaneous groups of guys like that, and the rest of the industry just reuses and rearranges those ideas with new coats of paint or characters.

This is not just a gaming trend; look at anything, like universities, which were once faculty-driven but now are 90% managerial positions, administrators, diversity officers, etc. Unfortunately the corporate managerial mindset and style has infected most institutions; I personally know faculty who say their prior freedom of scholarship is now replaced by being a managed part of a corporate brand.

Particularly this part:


There's the problem with today's corporate mindset: they're not even chasing "what's popular" per se, but are chasing nothing other than the idea of "expand the base" which translates to "sanitize anything which is associated with the kinds of guys who actually created and drive these genres, replace it with affirming content that can bring in non-traditional gamers." But what's so absurd about this is that they try to hide a purely cynical economic idea of expanding the cu$tomer base into some kind of moral stance, as if more people playing saniitized and generic games is a social good and we should all get on board. Nonsense.

I am not saying there isnt any 'free' creativity, just that youre not going to get that from established publishers and their dev teams. Companies want to sell products, with little to no confrontation (unless the bad publicity in itself sells the product) and if the devs ideas dont mesh with that, then the product will either be shelved, tweeked or retooled.

Small dev teams will of course have more freedom as well, because generally speaking, they arent going to have the suits breathing down their backs, at least not in the early stages. They may just get a little push back selling their product. Going from publisher to publisher, or self-publishing.

Its difficult for devs or anyone trying to break into any particular industry with their passion product. There are the ocassional suits who will take a risk and say "this album is gold, gotta put it on the market" but, they are few and far between. Most people likely try for years until their product is deemed marketable, at least on a grand scale. Tons of indy passion products that arent beholden to market trends are released everyday...they just might have to sit at the bottom of the bin for a little while and have a small, but dedicated market.

Notwithstanding, i think devs have free access to creativity but fortunately or unfortunately they are behooving to the times. Not only that, but they devs themselves change....arguably gens Y and Z have different ways of expressing their creativity...and maybe, just maybe, this includes the 'woke' ideals so many are offended by.

Cant say i know anything of the make up of modern devs either, but could be that development teams are now more diverse, which in turn resulted in changes of ideas and brands. Western countries in general are more diverse, than say Japan or Korean, and maybe because of this games from those countries havent changed dramatically over time because their societal ideas and homogeney havent?
 

Shubh_C63

Member
Where is the proof of "go woke, go broke" ?

Companies will make things that sell more with least unpredictability. Going woke is an easy sureshot sell or the safest bet.
 

Doom85

Member
Ignorant shit? That's a bit harsh to say to a woman of color. She's entitled to her opinion just like you are of course, however wrong you are. I find her argument far more convincing than you're attempt at a rebuttal.

Guess I'm a racist/sexist/transphobe, just like her! Oh noooooooo... *Rolls eyes*

If this MCU thing existed in a vacuum I'd feel differently. But as things stand the current culture and attempts to force it in a certain direction or rather muzzle it like a dog; is just one piece of a puzzle that I feel I have less than half the pieces too, but I can still see the ugly picture in front of me taking shape.

If you can't see the very obvious, pervasive woke agenda, across film, gaming, TV, advertisements, comic books, society at large... then you are in my opinion either ignorant of what's going on, or brainwashed yourself, like you seem to think I am. No one thinks they are in the cult, the echo chamber etc. Yes I realise the irony of that statement.

You need only look at the $80 million cancellation of Batgirl and countless other woke projects canceled at Netflix, to see there is a problem. Or the failure of modern woke comic books. There are too many examples to count now. Majority don't want it. It doesn't play well with test audiences.

If it's not thrust in one's face and it's not the focus of the game or film, with a good story and all the rest, it can work and has done... But very often it's so on the nose and unsubtle and is the point of the piece of media, rather than the story, gameplay etc. The activism comes first. This very often fails. This is what she was arguing in the YouTube vid.

Most people are sick of it. The majority of people don't want woke politics in their games, films etc. This isn't contentious any more, even with the woke mob ready to figuratively lynch any non believers/cancel them/get them fired... whatever. The West is so fractured/divided now and it's by design. To distract from the serious issues going on. You are a useful idiot and I'm just an idiot for adding logs to the fire tbh.

People want top gun maverick. People want manga in the west over comic books. People want good games without political agendas. I don't want MY politics in games or YOURS or anyone elses, unless politics is necessary for the plot.

Woke politics is the main reason, to answer OPs question, we have less and less studios taking risks and having pretty, thin, hot women in games has become just ONE problem in the eyes of the cathedral of wokeness. So we will get less and less of that as a result because the left have cultural power, although perhaps that's beginning to change.

Remain willfully ignorant. You are clearly very good at it ;) I know I'm not being the bigger person here, especially after I said the government wants us all at each others throats. Something to reflect on perhaps.

-what does her race have to do with it? I’m sorry, you said Phase 4 is all “white men = bad”, so if anything as a white man I should be able to tell when I’m being “discriminated against” (which is rare despite what other white drama queens would have you believe) over a black person. But regardless of the race of the video maker, the arguments are ignorant regardless. They can have their opinion, I’m just calling them out on it. Unless they or you can counter the massive list I provided, then you two don’t have much ground to stand on in terms of this “Phase 4 hates men/white men” shtick

- …….

What Are You Talking About Harrison Ford GIF by Star Wars


- failure to provide specific examples, nice. Meanwhile, I ripped apart your current only example…..

- When did I say or imply “brainwashed”? You’re really proving my “drama queens” argument. I implied you and many of this video’s viewers come off as gullible to me, but that’s a good step away from “brainwashed”

- Batgirl was cancelled for multiple reasons, and I guarantee you the detail of a black woman playing a white character whose race was irrelevant to her character (and hell, they changed Gordon’s race in The Batman, and even the usual whiners mostly keep quiet for once, thank god) was barely a factor compared to the movie quality apparently being subpar (mind you, looking through cinema history, test audiences can sometimes be a poor judge of quality depending on who was selected. Look at the dumbass teens in Halloween 6‘s test screenings who called Donald Pleasance of all people “boring”) and Discovery making a bunch of changes. As for Netflix, I barely watch it, but Arcane could easily be labeled “woke” (female lesbian lead with semi-shaved head, let’s be real that’s enough to qualify by some Gaf posters’ defintion) and it was a massive success.

- please give me a non-BS example of this in a Phase 4 story making it “the point”. And a logical example. Captain America comics have often focused on politics, anyone whining about this is as clueless as someone whining about X-men comics focusing on discrimination. Hell, Green Lantern/Green Arrow is a 70’s comic run focused on politics, introduced John Stewart as a new GL and again focused on racism, and is heralded by most comic fans as a classic of its decade. So a superhero comic focused on politics stood the test of time, so spare me the “superhero stories shouldn’t focus on politics” drivel.

-ah yes, I’m the “idiot” whose providing the distractions. You know, except this entire thread was started by an “anti-woke” individual. And you provided the video unprompted to provide more fire to the flames. Meanwhile, I focus on providing facts like Horizon ZD’s sales numbers and listing many examples of white men in Phase 4 being portrayed heroically and sympathetically, and yet I’m the one being the distraction.

Sure Jan GIF


- Wow, a single movie whose marketing relied on nostalgia, and your point is? Also yes, no shit manga will ALWAYS do better than comics for a good while now, and will for a long time after. People are mostly normies when it comes to comics, and don’t want to grab a Captain America issue #61 that also requires you to know a few of the prior arcs, which will themselves require you to know a few arcs before that, and don’t forget the crossover issues and tie-in issues. Do you know why The Walking Dead comic was a huge success? Because there’s a really obvious start and eventual end, and THAT’S IT. Guess what else is like that? OMG, so Demon Slayer starts at Vol. 1 and ends at Vol. 23? And no tie-ins, side series, crossovers, and tons of issues that actually predate “Vol. 1”? Well, I can’t fathom how something with such a user-friendly way to begin reading the story coherently could have been such a success! It CLEARLY must all have to do with “woke” stuff and not a far more logical and obvious explanation….

Also, funny, Jordan Peele’s films have been labeled “woke” by plenty of folks here, and Get Out and Us do both have social commentary as a core element, yet both films were very successful.

John Cena Reaction GIF by WWE


- so you claim studios are making games that “don’t appeal to most people” and also claim these same studios are “taking less risks”?

Aaron Paul What GIF by Breaking Bad


Do you also claim your Uncle Ralph is a “brave soul” and in the same breath also claim your Uncle Ralph is a “huge coward”? Seriously, are you okay?

- Ah yes, “the government”. So you’re one of THOSE types of people, eh?

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And like Kramer wisely did, I’m just going to try not to make direct eye contact with you for too long and just get on with my day.
 

Tangerine

Member
-what does her race have to do with it? I’m sorry, you said Phase 4 is all “white men = bad”, so if anything as a white man I should be able to tell when I’m being “discriminated against” (which is rare despite what other white drama queens would have you believe) over a black person. But regardless of the race of the video maker, the arguments are ignorant regardless. They can have their opinion, I’m just calling them out on it. Unless they or you can counter the massive list I provided, then you two don’t have much ground to stand on in terms of this “Phase 4 hates men/white men” shtick

- …….

What Are You Talking About Harrison Ford GIF by Star Wars


- failure to provide specific examples, nice. Meanwhile, I ripped apart your current only example…..

- When did I say or imply “brainwashed”? You’re really proving my “drama queens” argument. I implied you and many of this video’s viewers come off as gullible to me, but that’s a good step away from “brainwashed”

- Batgirl was cancelled for multiple reasons, and I guarantee you the detail of a black woman playing a white character whose race was irrelevant to her character (and hell, they changed Gordon’s race in The Batman, and even the usual whiners mostly keep quiet for once, thank god) was barely a factor compared to the movie quality apparently being subpar (mind you, looking through cinema history, test audiences can sometimes be a poor judge of quality depending on who was selected. Look at the dumbass teens in Halloween 6‘s test screenings who called Donald Pleasance of all people “boring”) and Discovery making a bunch of changes. As for Netflix, I barely watch it, but Arcane could easily be labeled “woke” (female lesbian lead with semi-shaved head, let’s be real that’s enough to qualify by some Gaf posters’ defintion) and it was a massive success.

- please give me a non-BS example of this in a Phase 4 story making it “the point”. And a logical example. Captain America comics have often focused on politics, anyone whining about this is as clueless as someone whining about X-men comics focusing on discrimination. Hell, Green Lantern/Green Arrow is a 70’s comic run focused on politics, introduced John Stewart as a new GL and again focused on racism, and is heralded by most comic fans as a classic of its decade. So a superhero comic focused on politics stood the test of time, so spare me the “superhero stories shouldn’t focus on politics” drivel.

-ah yes, I’m the “idiot” whose providing the distractions. You know, except this entire thread was started by an “anti-woke” individual. And you provided the video unprompted to provide more fire to the flames. Meanwhile, I focus on providing facts like Horizon ZD’s sales numbers and listing many examples of white men in Phase 4 being portrayed heroically and sympathetically, and yet I’m the one being the distraction.

Sure Jan GIF


- Wow, a single movie whose marketing relied on nostalgia, and your point is? Also yes, no shit manga will ALWAYS do better than comics for a good while now, and will for a long time after. People are mostly normies when it comes to comics, and don’t want to grab a Captain America issue #61 that also requires you to know a few of the prior arcs, which will themselves require you to know a few arcs before that, and don’t forget the crossover issues and tie-in issues. Do you know why The Walking Dead comic was a huge success? Because there’s a really obvious start and eventual end, and THAT’S IT. Guess what else is like that? OMG, so Demon Slayer starts at Vol. 1 and ends at Vol. 23? And no tie-ins, side series, crossovers, and tons of issues that actually predate “Vol. 1”? Well, I can’t fathom how something with such a user-friendly way to begin reading the story coherently could have been such a success! It CLEARLY must all have to do with “woke” stuff and not a far more logical and obvious explanation….

Also, funny, Jordan Peele’s films have been labeled “woke” by plenty of folks here, and Get Out and Us do both have social commentary as a core element, yet both films were very successful.

John Cena Reaction GIF by WWE


- so you claim studios are making games that “don’t appeal to most people” and also claim these same studios are “taking less risks”?

Aaron Paul What GIF by Breaking Bad


Do you also claim your Uncle Ralph is a “brave soul” and in the same breath also claim your Uncle Ralph is a “huge coward”? Seriously, are you okay?

- Ah yes, “the government”. So you’re one of THOSE types of people, eh?

1oB3LuL.gif


And like Kramer wisely did, I’m just going to try not to make direct eye contact with you for too long and just get on with my day.
I hope your WPM is pretty high. Ignorance is bliss they say. Keep on truckin my delusional friend.

PS. The government loves you my mistake. All evidence points to the opposite but nevermind hey.

Did you even watch the video? I paraphrased her. I was very black and white and overly simplistic. I have not the time nor inclination to continue. The video contains the correct info (obviously.)

I hope one day soon when we are all in the shit even more so than now, you do some soul searching. You might just find you are part of the problem. I doubt it though. I already know all I need to about you.

If you keep talking for long enough people give up responding to you right? Then you can tell yourself you won :)

The problem is arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded.

Yeah I'm a conspiracy nut because I think the powers that be want us devided. The fact you so quickly dismiss me based on my opinion on this issue speaks volumes by the way. Also the ridicule.

I won't be responding further. Take the win, you so clearly deserve it.
 
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64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
I hope your WPM is pretty high. Ignorance is bliss they say. Keep on truckin my delusional friend.

PS. The government loves you my mistake. All evidence points to the opposite but nevermind hey.

Did you even watch the video? I paraphrased her. I was very black and white and overly simplistic. I have not the time nor inclination to continue. The video contains the correct info (obviously.)

I hope one day soon when we are all in the shit even more so than now, you do some soul searching. You might just find you are part of the problem. I doubt it though. I already know all I need to about you.

If you keep talking for long enough people give up responding to you right? Then you can tell yourself you won :)

The problem is arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded.

Yeah I'm a conspiracy nut because I think the powers that be want us devided. The fact you so quickly dismiss me based on my opinion on this issue speaks volumes by the way. Also the ridicule.

I won't be responding further. Take the win, you so clearly deserve it.
That's it, I'm bringing out the baby image....
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They know femininity sells, but the big corporations no longer answer to the customer. CEOs and board members are beholden to financial powers that have a different agenda - to fundamentally transform the world into one they can easily control. They won’t stay in their positions if they don’t comply with the neo-Marxist agenda.

To transform society, first you need to dissolve the entrenched traditional culture. This is the point of all the woke and SJW nonsense. It has nothing to do with justice or equality. That’s just a cover story. It’s about destroying cultural norms and dividing people (to divide and conquer). It’s pure evil.
 

OldBoyGamer

Banned
They know femininity sells, but the big corporations no longer answer to the customer. CEOs and board members are beholden to financial powers that have a different agenda - to fundamentally transform the world into one they can easily control. They won’t stay in their positions if they don’t comply with the neo-Marxist agenda.

To transform society, first you need to dissolve the entrenched traditional culture. This is the point of all the woke and SJW nonsense. It has nothing to do with justice or equality. That’s just a cover story. It’s about destroying cultural norms and dividing people (to divide and conquer). It’s pure evil.
I love my conspiracy theories too. Even when it sounds like bullshit.
 

Business

Member
Eh this seems overblown.
The game has been out for a while, we've got tons of nice screenshots and people still need to go back to cherry picked frames from a pre-release trailer to make their point.

She's not a supermodel but she looks pretty good in game:
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They also made sure the majority of her outfits would make Saudi Arabia’s censor proud.
 

Monjiro

Neo Member
Picked one unflattering angle and are now gonna forever cry about Aloy. Get a fucking life.

Well it's still a fact that they made Alloy more manly in comparisson to the model she is based on, because actual model looked like she would cry, if she would brake a nail
 
But there is something you can do about it. Dont buy the game!
I think ur misunderstanding the political narrative, even if no one buys the games, it still won’t change anything, for the woke crowd, it’s not about money, they feel about this the same way as they feel about racism and slavery.
 

22:22:22

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When was even the last time we saw a feminine woman in a western game?

The woke west has tried so hard to destroy the image of what a woman is that now the craving of men for one is harder than ever.

When will these weirdos realize that the persons they are catering to with all those masculine fictional women aren't even interested in gaming?

Do they really plan to keep losing sales to asian devs that know what men want to see?

If there's one thing that has always sold for the entirety of the human history it's Sex, you have to be dumb AF to not realize that men will always like feminine women.

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Define Femenity
 

22:22:22

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Sure, got me.

I believe it's pretty obvious that he was talking about traditional feminine attributes.

I'd like to extrapolate the concept to make for a more indepth analytical discussion..But hey, let's keep this opportunity wasted and simplified it to Femininity = Woman.

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