Marcus Aurelius
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Why would I cry? PS4 is still king last time I checked.Says the guy who's made several posts in this thread alone crying about it all.
Why would I cry? PS4 is still king last time I checked.Says the guy who's made several posts in this thread alone crying about it all.
Why would I cry? PS4 is still king last time I checked.
Damn Wii U really must've traumatized nintendo fanboys, Switch sales are like porn to you guys.
PS4 has been seeling in the recent FYs (6th, 7th, 8th FY) better than all the previous consoles sold at that point of their lifetime. A few months ago Ryan said they will continue supporting PS4 for at least 2 or 3 years more because they have over 100 million active users on PS4 and only about a dozen or two million players will move to PS5 during the first couple of years or so.
It isn't something new, Sony home consoles traditionally always continued in the market several years after their succesor gets released, during a total of more than 10 years. PS4 is selling better pacing than PS2, which was in the market for over 12 years.
So no, they won't stop production this or next year.
I think PS4 will end selling more than Switch in the long run, because Nintendo consoles get replaced faster by their successors, PlayStation consoles keep in the market selling during more years.
PS4 had an extra Q3 at launch, and during the current FY Switch saw a spike due to the Covid. Before the spike, Nintendo knew AC was coming, but they predicted Switch was going to sell 19M this FY, exactly the same PS4 sold during this same 5th FY. This means Nintendo expected Switch would continue FY after FY performing basically the same PS4 did on each FY.
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Surely it's already blown away all it's predecessors on software sales.Less then 10M sales to go now to pass out it's predecessor's the 3ds and wii u. Impressive rebound after an average last gen for Nintendo.
What's crazy are the MK8 numbers. Like, we all bought this twice, right? Lol Just waiting for niiii-iiiineee Nintendooooo....
Less then 10M sales to go now to pass out it's predecessor's the 3ds and wii u. Impressive rebound after an average last gen for Nintendo.
It's possible that around 8 million Wii U owners could have bought the game twice, good value port however, 1080p 60fps, all the DLC tracks and brand new proper battle mode, and the best handheld Mario kart experience I could have wished for, these are the reasons I double dipped.What's crazy are the MK8 numbers. Like, we all bought this twice, right? Lol Just waiting for niiii-iiiineee Nintendooooo....
Agreed. The N64 and Game cube showed Nintendo they couldn't compete with Sony here and MS too after the 360 took off. Like all good businesses Nintendo reevaluated and found a safe space to compete in where they wouldn't have direct competition. It must have hurt their pride being beaten by Sony but ultimately it's lead them to where they are now and I think that's a healthier place.Thing is we say that was average because of the stellar 250 million console generation of the Wii and DS, but Nintendo still managed to shift around 88 million consoles last generation,.
If Nintendo were to say go into the power race with Sony and Microsoft, which is around 160 million consoles each generation, Nintendo at best could hope for a 50% stake in, which I feel would be impossible to achieve in my opinion, they would be still be down on sales wise on the 3DS and Wii U generation.
The Switch is an ideal situation for Nintendo as they only have to develop one console and their software teams can put all their resources in one direction as well, this does take time however due to the very long life of the 3DS and Nintendo's commitments to the growing mobile markets.
Already was past 80 mil now, the numbers is actually counted in December.Am I the only one triggered that they didn't just wait 2 days longer and announce 80 million?
They've gone very secretive first party wise ever since Covid. Hoping they go back to normal soon.I think we need some more info on what Nintendo have planned for this year software wise.
I'm sure they wish they could have done that too!Am I the only one triggered that they didn't just wait 2 days longer and announce 80 million?
Yes, this is why In my post that you quoted in addition to my opinion sentences "So no, they won't stop production this or next year." and "I think PS4 will end selling more than Switch in the long run" all the other info are a lot of facts that back that opinion.When presented with a lot of evidence to the contrary, the pure refusal to look at the facts of the situation will always be best.![]()
Before the Covid, Nintendo expected to sell 19M in the current 5th FY, same as PS4 id in FY5. So they expect the peak year to be the previous one, but it has been the current one. So I assume they also expected the next FY to have a decline (less than 19M), the question now is how much.So it'll probably be 100m+ by the end of this year?
Selling 20mil this year worldwide with some bigger games this year would make sense to me.
3D World should put some numbers up, along with SMT, MH, Pokemon Snap, and whatever else they have coming. If BOTW2 is this year that would be an easy lock.
Yes, very likely at the end of 2021 or the start of 2022 they will reach 100M. Pretty likely they will sell over 130M or even 140M.I mean 100 mil is a given at this point, right?
Can't wait either, BOTW's sequel might be the greatest Zelda game since the N64 era. Hidemaro Fujibayashi has momentum at this point and his work has been getting better over the years. I think him pairing with Aonuma as the game's producer can be a powerful duo when they're at their best. I can see this upcoming Zelda surpassing BOTW in many ways - that is within reach. I wonder what the title will be?We are entering the peak year of the Switch.. up until this point they were just upping production but this year they will surpass 30 million
I just cannot wait for Breath of the Wild 2 to launch, hope it's sooner than we all realize
Those projections are probably a bit too high, but 100 million should be a given.Yes, very likely at the end of 2021 or the start of 2022 they will reach 100M. Pretty likely they will sell over 130M or even 140M.
True, PS home consoles lasted 10-14 years (shortest was PS3, almost 10 years, longest was PS4, 14th FY) Nintendo home consoles (without Wii) stopped around 6th FY, Nintendo recent (the ones you mentioned+GBA) handhelds lasted until FY9-10.I don't think the DS and 3DS were replaced that fast, in fact 3DS is still selling in mil 4 years down the line after Switch launch, FP games support for 3DS kept going for 2 years more until 2018 WarioWare Gold.
Only if the original Switch stops selling will Nintendo stop supporting it, even with their successors launched.
Nintendo already raised new forecast for Switch.
Yes, probably are a bit high and they may reach 100M a bit later. But well, even if they announce the next gen Nintendo console this summer and release it on 2021 (something that won't happen) they would still reach 100M.Those projections are probably a bit too high, but 100 million should be a given.
It depends on what they choose to do moving forward. The potential is certainly there..Those projections are probably a bit too high, but 100 million should be a given.
Someday we'll all be dead and there will be 5 billion broken game consoles on the earth. It can't go on forever.
You're one of the few who made the right choice.Wouldn't say I'm a hardcore Nintendo fan, but I did buy a Wii U. I actually never even bought a normal Wii.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games_(A–F)What on earth are these people playing on their system?
I don't find it impressive. Its 2 markets in one it was always going to attract more sales because of it then 1 device in 1 market.
They basically funneled there entire handheld market into the console space or the other way around for example.
Honestly with corona and the absolute disaster of PS5 scalpers and PC hardware jumping up in price i would expect that thing to sell a whole lot more by now.
Only 6 of these are ports if you count BotW. Some great numbers.Here is the updated million-sellers list:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 33.41 million
Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 31.18 million
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 22.85 million
Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 21.45 million
Pokemon Sword/Shield – 20.35 million
Super Mario Odyssey – 20.23 million
Super Mario Party – 13.82 million
Pokemon: Let’s Go, Pikachu / Eevee – 13.00 million
Splatoon 2 – 11.90 million
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe – 9.82 million
Luigi’s Mansion 3 – 9.13 million
Ring Fit Adventure – 8.68 million
Super Mario 3D All-Stars – 8.32 million
Super Mario Maker 2 – 6.91 million
Paper Mario: The Origami King – 3.05 million
Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity – 2.84 million (overseas)
Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics – 2.62 million
Pikmin 3 Deluxe – 1.94 million
Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition – 1.48 million
Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit – 1.08 million
...whoops...Those were cumulative figures for both companies.
Ever since they missed that 20 million prediction for FY 19 they've been crazy conservative with their forecasts (and they still are doing that).Yes, this is why In my post that you quoted in addition to my opinion sentences "So no, they won't stop production this or next year." and "I think PS4 will end selling more than Switch in the long run" all the other info are a lot of facts that back that opinion.
I think I forgot to mention the PS4 also has way bigger software sales and tie ratio than Switch and that Ryan said a few months ago they had 100M+ MAU. This, plus the insane yearly PSN revenue makes them want to continue.
Before the Covid, Nintendo expected to sell 19M in the current 5th FY, same as PS4 id in FY5. So they expect the peak year to be the previous one, but it has been the current one. So I assume they also expected the next FY to have a decline (less than 19M), the question now is how much.
I think the biggest questions are: how much is going to continue affecting covid and if they will release BOTW2 this year. I think that if covid continues like now we continue having lockdowns here and there and they release BOTW2 in 2021, they will achieve 20+ million. If not, I think they'll sell around 17M. I see 20M highly possible (edit: now I realized I was talking in fiscal years, so I mean 20M for the period that goes from April 2021 to March 2022).
I think the best selling Switch games to be releaed in 2021 will be 3D World, MHR and -if released this year- BOTW2, and that they will be very distant in sales compared to the other 2021 games.
Mario Kart 8 is still selling well and last year they released MK Home Circuit, so they won't release MK9 this year. On the Mario side, they have Mario 3D World and relently released the emulated ones, and last year released Paper Mario, so won't be a Mario. They released AC last year, won't be an AC. It's the 35th Zelda anniversary, so I assume they will release one or two compilations of emulated games similar to the Mario one but I think they won't super sellers unless one of them is a big Ocarina remaster with a ton of work on it (but I highly doubt they would release it more or less at the same time than BOTW2). Even if they had Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4 on time for this year, they wouldn't be super sellers.Ever since they missed that 20 million prediction for FY 19 they've been crazy conservative with their forecasts (and they still are doing that).
I'm sure there will be console games that sell more than MHR and BOTW2, but not many have been announced yet. The ones most likely to do so will be the new Call of Duty and sports games.
MK8D wouldn't stop selling though, and it's been 6-7 years since the last MK8.Mario Kart 8 is still selling well and last year they released MK Home Circuit, so they won't release MK9 this year.
There's no reason to release more than one Mario Kart per console generation. The same applies for most of Nintendo's evergreen IPs, besides Zelda and 3D Mario.MK8D wouldn't stop selling though, and it's been 6-7 years since the last MK8.
Maybe it will come next year.
I don't think we will see the next Mario Kart on the Switch. I know, technically, MK8 is a Wii U game, but Nintendo is treating it like it was just a Switch title. And it's basically a given that we get one Mario Kart game per console generation.MK8D wouldn't stop selling though, and it's been 6-7 years since the last MK8.
Maybe it will come next year.
We need more DLC cups for MK8.I don't think we will see the next Mario Kart on the Switch. I know, technically, MK8 is a Wii U game, but Nintendo is treating it like it was just a Switch title. And it's basically a given that we get one Mario Kart game per console generation.
There's no reason to release more than one Mario Kart per console generation. The same applies for most of Nintendo's evergreen IPs, besides Zelda and 3D Mario.
MK8D is essentially a remaster not a the new Mario Kart this generation, MK9 will come and MK9D will be released on the next hardware.I don't think we will see the next Mario Kart on the Switch. I know, technically, MK8 is a Wii U game, but Nintendo is treating it like it was just a Switch title. And it's basically a given that we get one Mario Kart game per console generation.
FACKLaunch aligned (by quarter) NSW is more than 12M units ahead of the PS4.
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Probably other 4 yearsA lot will depend on many factors here, how long will Nintendo market the Switch for, will there be a revision and possibly a price cut?, you do have to factor in the PS4 has been awesome value from a price point of view for quite a few years now.
Sorry, I somehow managed to completely misread your post!Mario Kart 8 is still selling well and last year they released MK Home Circuit, so they won't release MK9 this year. On the Mario side, they have Mario 3D World and relently released the emulated ones, and last year released Paper Mario, so won't be a Mario. They released AC last year, won't be an AC. It's the 35th Zelda anniversary, so I assume they will release one or two compilations of emulated games similar to the Mario one but I think they won't super sellers unless one of them is a big Ocarina remaster with a ton of work on it (but I highly doubt they would release it more or less at the same time than BOTW2). Even if they had Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4 on time for this year, they wouldn't be super sellers.
Then we have Pokemon, they released Shield+Sword a bit more than a year ago. They could release this year the remake the next old Pokemons, this is their only remaining big selling possible option.
People who like to play CoD and FIFA already have a PS or Xbox to play them there. I don't see them moving to Switch to play these games.