How is Forza being milked? There hasn't been a new Forza motorsport game since launch of Xbox one 2013 and Forza Horizons has 2 installments on Xbox one . last Horizons game came out in 2018 it's 2021 now. This thread is lazy and uninformed.I would say forza is the only one being milked, halo and gears takes 3 yrs at least. I would consider new devs for Halo though.
Why not release on PC?Yes they need to give all 3 a rest and try something new this gen I feel, and also make it exclusive to xbox (not on PC too)
I think it might be you that is uninformed...How is Forza being milked? There hasn't been a new Forza motorsport game since launch of Xbox one 2013 and Forza Horizons has 2 installments on Xbox one . last Horizons game came out in 2018 it's 2021 now. This thread is lazy and uninformed.
I like how you’ve spent more posts defending your faulty premised IP than anyone else has contributed to it.I like how several of you keep listing games that had breaks, and one of these two has breaks between almost every release.
To give people a reason to buy an XboxWhy not release on PC?
Why? Selling games makes them more money, neither company makes very much money on a console.To give people a reason to buy an Xbox
I have to be honest I feel like you don't really understand the problem with Halo right now, and what is happening behind the scenes that is spurring these decisions.How many "Halo fans" have stopped gaming as a hobby by now? That demographic has been shrinking every year for the last 10 years.
Got to appeal to more than just Halo fans at this point.
See: God of War reboot.
You could try reading the op instead of making nonsensical sarcastic statements based on you assuming what I'm arguing when the argument is clear in the op as to why I feel these franchises are in the way.Looking at your list the Forza games seem to be the most frequent. They are also the highest scoring and most popular titles. Stopping those games would be more of a detriment to the platform over a benefit.
There were two Gears titles and 5 reviewed higher than 4 so it was an improvement over the previous title. Also the Coalition makes the best looking games for Xbox and the multi-player modes get lots of attention. Gears 6 is most likely in early development and won't be out until 2023 at the earliest maybe later than that. That's about 5 years between games and it will have a new engine to boot.
Finally there is Halo Infinite and there was only 1 mainline game the whole last generation. How that would mean it needs a break when it has been on a break for 6 years is an interesting take.
Your main point about needing more variety for the Xbox platform is well taken. That might be why MS has been investing in new studios and has at least 20 at this point. I highly doubt all these studios will be making Halo, Gears, and Forza games. The games during the X1 generation were mostly from same studios and games like Killer Instinct and Crackdown as you mentioned weren't even done in house. Why don't we look at the e3 showcase which is in 2 days and see how many Gears, Forza, and Halo games they show during the 90 minute presentation and then we can see if MS has any additional IP planned.
Sadly for you mods know how to read and know this isn't a war thread, but you seem ready to engage for some reason. Maybe you'll find your battle in another thread.Halo coming out after 6 yrs and Gears going on long break now. Forza already on break. Just Horizon will come now.
You all conveniently ignored all the announced games?
Avowed
Hellblade 2
Perfect dark
Starfield
And multiple more coming from 26 MS studios.
MS is no more Halo/Gears/ Forza only company and even MS knows that.
Purpose of this thread to create needless console wars. If i was mod, i would ban such threads immediately.
I did read your OP and as many people pointed out it makes no sense. I took the time out to explain why it made no sense but I am certainly glad MS didn't ask for your opinion. MS now has over 20 studios. Plenty to make new Halo, Forza, and Gears games AND plenty of new IP. Cheers.You could try reading the op instead of making nonsensical sarcastic statements based on you assuming what I'm arguing when the argument is clear in the op as to why I feel these franchises are in the way.
While MS hasn't released any numbers, I think Sea of Thieves has done well. Wouldn't surprise me if both Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive also did over a million in sales. More than than likely.Pssh, Halo 5 sold 5 million in 2 months, Halo MCC sold 2 million on Xbox and 1 million on Steam, Forza sells 2 million per entry, Horizon sells double what Forza does, and I don't know about Gears but I assume those still sell millions too. The Halo Gears stuff is a myth.
They need to keep those franchises alive. Did any other 1st party Xbox game this generation even sell over 1 million copies? I'm seriously curious, I know D4 and Quantum Break didn't.
No you didn't, you never address the reason why in the OP I said these franchises were in the he way. You are like a handful of others you didn't actually read the op.I did read your OP and as many people pointed out it makes no sense. I took the time out to explain why it made no sense but I am certainly glad MS didn't ask for your opinion. MS now has over 20 studios. Plenty to make new Halo, Forza, and Gears games AND plenty of new IP. Cheers.
This right here. And I agree with the "add, don't subtract" mentality.I'm always in the "add, don't subtract" camp, by which I mean, instead of wanting a company to make less of a certain game or franchise, I want them to scale up so they can make more of something else while still putting out what is working for them.
I think when people complain that a company "keeps releasing the same three franchises," they usually aren't annoyed at the games themselves (unless they're suffering in quality from the rush, like some of the Assassin's Creed games). Rather, they aren't fans of that series, and they're pissed because they don't have anything they want to play.
Insofar as it's financially sound, companies should try to put out a broad swath of games abd genres so they have something for everyone. Alas, the more usual approach seems to be making one big game that tries to be all things to all people (and usually ends up being bland, IMO).
Sega did the what now?
Why did you want Sega to lose money faster? Don't you like them?DID not make enough sequels to their IP on the Saturn or DC.
I get the trolling, but if you don't support and look to please your own fanbase with sequels to some of your beloved IP. You aren't going to make much money either.Why did you want Sega to lose money faster? Don't you like them?
It's not trolling, it's called you lacking perspective and being selfish. A good chunk of Sega's beloved IP weren't beloved until those IP were dead. May not be you but the sales were bad at the time for many of them.I get the trolling, but if you don't support and look to please your own fanbase with sequels to some of your beloved IP. You aren't going to make much money either.
I think you're trolling, but if not I'm sorry.It's not trolling, it's called you lacking perspective and being selfish. A good chunk of Sega's beloved IP weren't beloved until those IP were dead. May not be you but the sales were bad at the time for many of them.
I absolutely did address the point about how Halo, Gears, and Forza are taking away from new franchises. They are not. Did you actually read my post? MS has over 20 studios and has plenty of resources. 3 franchises aren't stopping MS from making other types of games. Their showcase is tomorrow. I bet a million dollars they show more than Halo, Gears and Forza. It's not that people didn't read your post it's that they just don't agree that's why the poll results are what they are.No you didn't, you never address the reason why in the OP I said these franchises were in the he way. You are like a handful of others you didn't actually read the op.
You just continue to show you can't comprehend such a simple argument.I bet a million dollars they show more than Halo,
Shining force wasn't much of a seller outside some modest sales in Japan for some entries, Sonic was on a downward spiral each game release on the Genesis and their first game to tease before Sonic Xtreme came out (later cancelled) was a blip.I think you're trolling, but if not I'm sorry.
SEGA had a very nice range Joe NFL games on the Mega Drive, did they look to build on that for the Saturn? After a shaky start SEGA's Victory Goal/WWS morphed into a quality football game, did SEGA look to build on that for the DC? and If there was one thing the DC needed, it was a quality football game (NFL is not football btw) SEGA made Shining Force into a quality series for both the MD and Saturn and did SEGA look to build on that with the DC? worse still they didn't even bother to use Camelot on the DC at all. A little Blue hedgehog sold well on the Mega Drive and Master System and did SEGA look to build on that for the Saturn?. I know giving Sonic to Sega America to mess up was a mistake given how hopeless Sega America was in the 32bit age, but SEGA should have had its main Sonic Team developed the title
You need to please your own fanbase as well as trying to get newcomers with sequels to the fanbase fav IP and new games. This was something MS did very well with the 360 but didn't handle quite well with the One
Such a stupid question.
Problem with Microsoft wasn't Halo + Gears + Forza. Problem with Microsoft was "It's only Halo + Gears + Forza"
With 23 studios (and probably more after tomorrow's E3) Microsoft finally have other stuff so Xbox brand won't rely on those three franchises as much as is today.
And to answer your question. The Coalition is actually developing new IP before they will make Gears 6.
I'll never understand why people have such hostility towards Xbox exclusives like Gears and Halo to the point where they felt like they should have "ended" at a certain point yet they won't say the same for other franchises that have been milked to hell and back from other companies or on other platforms. Gears and Halo are both still quality series and obviously sell and have diehard fanbases if they keep putting them out and promoting them. Gears 4 alone is still active online half a decade later and has made them millions of dollars in profit so why would they have ended it with 3? Forza is the best racing franchise out there right now. All three series are key to the Xbox platform and the competitors have nothing like them. If Nintendo can have Pokemon, Mario Kart, etc. and Sony can have Uncharted, God of War, etc. then there is nothing wrong with Xbox having their key series, too.Gears franchise is a zombie that should've ended at 3, so yes it should be retired.
Gran Turismo and Forza are highly iterative games that ideally should keep getting better each entry due to advances in technology. They should continue forever. It's only poor design choices getting in their way, not the tech.
To be fair, Uncharted is clearly losing steam and personally I’d like to see a new IP from Naughty Dog.I'll never understand why people have such hostility towards Xbox exclusives like Gears and Halo to the point where they felt like they should have "ended" at a certain point yet they won't say the same for other franchises that have been milked to hell and back from other companies or on other platforms. Gears and Halo are both still quality series and obviously sell and have diehard fanbases if they keep putting them out and promoting them. Gears 4 alone is still active online half a decade later and has made them millions of dollars in profit so why would they have ended it with 3? Forza is the best racing franchise out there right now. All three series are key to the Xbox platform and the competitors have nothing like them. If Nintendo can have Pokemon, Mario Kart, etc. and Sony can have Uncharted, God of War, etc. then there is nothing wrong with Xbox having their key series, too.
I'll never understand why people have such hostility towards Xbox exclusives like Gears and Halo to the point where they felt like they should have "ended" at a certain point yet they won't say the same for other franchises that have been milked to hell and back from other companies or on other platforms. Gears and Halo are both still quality series and obviously sell and have diehard fanbases if they keep putting them out and promoting them. Gears 4 alone is still active online half a decade later and has made them millions of dollars in profit so why would they have ended it with 3? Forza is the best racing franchise out there right now. All three series are key to the Xbox platform and the competitors have nothing like them. If Nintendo can have Pokemon, Mario Kart, etc. and Sony can have Uncharted, God of War, etc. then there is nothing wrong with Xbox having their key series, too.