Checkerboard Render
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Well R&C is a special case as they released a patch with temporal AA that works on the regular PS4 - it provides a huge boost even without a Pro.
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PlayStation 4 Pro Reviews
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that's fair haha
BF1 is out, so for the Pro. Maybe I'll get it down the line, but right now I kinda want it for BF1 improvements only. Hoping for more stable (= playable, unlike on OG) 64 players framerate, IQ improvements and less resolution drops.
Not getting ANY info on how that "day 1 patch" will actually support the Pro seems like a bad sign though.
Lifejumper
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Wasnt fifa supposed to get a day one patch too? Any detaills on that?
Always-honest
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Yeah, but there's a much bigger difference on the Pro. Download it.
Yup and no official ones yet.
If it is with patch, it's a goddamn small resolution difference.
Just look at Titanfall 2 with patch.
Actually they look compressed to me.
The Ps4pro screenshot still seems to have some artifacts typical of the checkerboard rendering.
Miggytronz
Member
That R&C footage is insanity
Ratchet looks amazing.
Checkerboard Render
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I have, not denying it looks great it does and I'm sure it's a big improvement over the PS4 - but the biggest issue with the PS4 version was the aliasing/pixel-crawling and the temporal AA patch helped massively with that. In fact when the pics of it were posted in one of the threads I and others thought it was the Pro version, when they were actually from the PS4 with the new patch.
Always-honest
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Well for you i hope there will be some clearity very soon then.BF1 is out, so for the Pro. Maybe I'll get it down the line, but right now I kinda want it for BF1 improvements only. Hoping for more stable (= playable, unlike on OG) 64 players framerate, IQ improvements and less resolution drops.
Not getting ANY info on how that "day 1 patch" will actually support the Pro seems like a bad sign though.
Yeah it was an amazing patch for PS4. Insomniac is awesome.
chromatic9
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Yeah, just some actual screens, should be quicker. The video or videos aren't really worth the effort going off those video stills.
That's what a leaked slide said. Doesn't mean it happened or not be cause if big publishers said no, Sony would let it slide I'm sure.
We have no official words for FIFA either, so it could be something to do with the dealio with Microsoft. Since they had commercial deals with both FIFA and BF1 I think?
Always-honest
Banned
I don't want to go into the direction of some conspiracy.
Maybe there is some logical technical reason.
sounds about right... is the regular game is still 900p?
I thought I remembered reading that all games that are under 1080p...will be 1080p on Pro.
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Well to be fair, we have not got information from other Day 1-patched games as well.
Really? So 50% more power than the pro but will only output Pro levels of graphics? Precedent set with no patches required for games (albeit in less of a capacity)? Bigger jump over XB1 to Scorpio than PS4 to Pro? A whole extra year of studios developing enhanced multiplat console titles leaving more on the menu for consumers? A whole extra year for first party devs and games? A whole year for prices to come down on components and 4k TVs?
There's plenty the Scorpio has going in its favour at present. The attempts to frame platform bias are quite frankly miles off base and only serve to move the thread into unnecessary ststem warz territory. Not the purpose of this thread nor my initial post (see fixation on one tiny part of it).
As a double dipped PS4 owner the Pro is just not offering enough for me and others (including reviewers) at present. That's the bottom line.
Primethius
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What does this mean? Because I'm fairly certain more games will support Pro then Scorpio.
chromatic9
Member
Looks super. Good on them for doing a Pro mode.
Jacksinthe
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Um... I don't work for Sony.
I'm also not defending. I'm explaining why X cannot equal Y.
I'm downplaying comparing apples to oranges, correct.
I suppose you wouldn't actually read what I wrote and just write whatever you want about what I said like this:
When I actually said this:
I mean, if you're going to talk shit - quote me, don't just make shit up. It's a bad tactic.
I don't work with it for our current title. That doesn't mean I don't know how or haven't played around with testing random things. Often I will break for a day or two to change the channel and do crazy shit, just to see what I can do and switch gears. It's how i first wrote my own physics code - by mucking about one day. I'm a self-taught programmer so I do fancy me some hands-on black-belting in messing around.
With that - I'm out. Everyone is hereby free to believe what they want and talk as much shit as they want and pretend I said shit I never did. This is grossly OT.
Unknown?
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Sony said they were retooling it, what we have now is probably a stop gap till they get further work on it.
If people can barely see the 120% jump in power over XBO to Pro, not sure 50% over pro will be so big.
Right now Scorpio has nothing going for it, because it doesn't exist.
Always-honest
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Digital Foundry seems to think this IS the retooled version though. Because there was checkerboard rendering before and they ditched it.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afk50vvpOJo
Unknown?
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Dude was it that hard to comprehend my post? I didn't mention anything about power. You were complaining about games needing to be patched which will ultimately be the same exact situation for Scorpio. Same with how devs actually use the 6tf meaning not every game will have much effort put into it like Rise of the Tomb Raider has, it will vary. Old games WILL need those patches because it's not a minor upclock. Nor did I frame platform bias, I merely stated you're making romanticized assumptions about Scorpio that aren't going to happen.
As far as games go by the time Scorpio comes out Pro will have a MUCH larger library of games as well.
hardcastlemccormick
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Review threads are always this bad.
That's probably easier
I'll have to do this tomorrow. I forgot I swapped out my hard drives, my standard PS4 is currently restoring from a backup
Poimandres
Member
What an ugly thread. Almost as ugly as the PS4 Pro.
Checkerboard Render
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Mods ban plz thxI'll have to do this tomorrow. I forgot I swapped out my hard drives, my standard PS4 is currently restoring from a backup
Don't be prematurely calling for bans now.
Right. Here we go. Tried to hit the share button at the exact same time on each console. Think the PS4 took it a split second before the Pro though.
PS4
PS4 Pro
Hadn't moved an inch, so not 100% sure why the positions are slightly different.
Have at it, GAF.
(edit: 2160p image was captured - https://abload.de/img/battlefield1_20161109z3kof.png)
Right. Here we go. Tried to hit the share button at the exact same time on each console. Think the PS4 took it a split second before the Pro though.
PS4
PS4 Pro
Hadn't moved an inch, so not 100% sure why the positions are slightly different.
Have at it, GAF.
(edit: 2160p image was captured - https://abload.de/img/battlefield1_20161109z3kof.png)
Electret
Member
I've not been following the BF1 situation closely at all, but I do notice the UI is upscaled in the Pro shot. Although some other games do upscale their UI, you would think Dice would render theirs at native res in their Pro version. Anyone know if the UI in BF4 was upscaled from 900P on PS4, or renderd at 1080P?
Always-honest
Banned
clear difference. Less aliasing, sharper. And higher res screen?Don't be prematurely calling for bans now.
Right. Here we go. Tried to hit the share button at the exact same time on each console. Think the PS4 took it a split second before the Pro though.
PS4
PS4 Pro
Hadn't moved an inch, so not 100% sure why the positions are slightly different.
Have at it, GAF.
(edit: 2160p image was captured - https://abload.de/img/battlefield1_20161109z3kof.png)
And the mouseover comparison
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/190173
Such a slight change.
Mostly what I'm seeing is less aliasing. On a few rocks and around the top of the shot.
But its tiny.
Hardly any wonder nobody thought it had been done.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/190173
Such a slight change.
Mostly what I'm seeing is less aliasing. On a few rocks and around the top of the shot.
But its tiny.
Hardly any wonder nobody thought it had been done.
PS4 Pro captures at either 1080 or 2160 regardless of whether you're playing on 1080p screens or not.
Man, that vindication feels good.
cyberheater
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They look the same to me. Can you point out where it's sharper?
Leather straps on the buckles, the numbers on the gun, edges of the gauntlets for me...
Coolbgdog12
Member
there's barely a difference here.
Synless
Member
Bullets are another giveaway.
Nobody ever said it was a massive "OMGZ level of difference (I certainly didn't), but there *is* a difference. When it's running it looks noticeably sharper.
Anyway, it's gone midnight here. I'm going to bed. Blatant plug for our site: nextgengamingblog.com, and youtube.com/nextgengamingblog - Gonna have some more PS4/Pro comparisons coming this week. Hopefully none quite as controversial as this one!!
Electret
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Not sure I agree. The increased brightness will naturally highlight details to a greater degree that a relatively lesser brightness would not. As such, comparing the two is mighty difficult.
Edit: actually, these elements do appear slightly sharper to me. Seems to be a combo of sharpness and brightness. It's just super, super minor.
cyberheater
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Looks more like a change of angle to the lighting to me otherwise identical.
Always-honest
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Haha.
But you also noticed it while playing?
I still have no idea what is going on. And hope for a additional patch in the future for our BF1 fans here.
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