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Penn State football pedophilia thread (UPDATE: NCAA sanctions handed down)
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SerArthurDayne
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WedgeX said:
That is actually a good point that I didn't consider. I can't guarantee that is the law in PA, but it is not uncommon to toll (or pause, if you will) the statute of limitations in certain cases where there is a minor victim. Victim from 2005 incident would definitely allow this to fall within the limits if that is the case.
Dreams-Visions
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Very disappointed.Schmitty said:
BertramCooper
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What a fucking joke.Schmitty said:
SerArthurDayne
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So the current head coach, one other assistant coach currently with the team, the AD and a University VP knew about this. Clean house. This shit is worse than any tatoos or pay for play bullshit that the NCAA investigates and punishes with no consistency.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I hope all the major networks cover this as a top story if ESPN isn't going to do it.
SolidSnakex
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LQX said:
You don't think news networks will eat up a story about a major college covering up child molestation?
BertramCooper
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Whatev. I just know that I don't miss him in the slightest.wenis said:
Yeah, the regular newsmedia is going to eat this shit up. I have little doubt about that.SolidSnakex said:
SolidSnakex
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BertramCooper said:
Yep, you also throw in the fact that one of the most famous college coaches is involved in this. This will be a big story and it'll eventually be a big story on ESPN. They killed Tressel and OSU over hiding nonsense like selling memorabilia. Now you've got a college hiding a story about their former defensive coordinator was raping kids.
outunderthestars
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tokkun said:
Paterno needs to resign. I don't care how many games he has won, his inaction is sickening.
AgentChris
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Disgusting. I feel sorry for the victims and their families. This guy needs to be locked up forever.
GoldenEye 007
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Very reactionary.GoldenEye 007 said:
http://espn.go.com/college-football...state-nittany-lions-says-true-were-all-fooled
Quick, everyone throw McQueary under the bus!
SolidSnakex
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quaere said:
Seriously? I'm pretty sure that the police would be interested in a report involving a former coach raping a child in a college shower.
SerArthurDayne
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LOL. I'm pretty sure the hearsay rule doesn't apply to police outside of the courtroom. That is the worst defense I've ever heard.
Even if the police are like, "No, I don't care what you heard about child rape, I need to hear directly from an actual witness or I won't investigate it," (Aside- how often do you even have a voluntary witness that calls the police? I guess no investigation without a witness makes it easier to be a detective) Paterno knows who that witness is.
For fuck's sake, the police actually investigated complaints about one of the Onion's ridiculous tweets about a hostage situation. I assume there was no witness because there was no hostage situation.
This is the worst ass covering I've ever heard. Paterno better hope the fact that he is an old, senile tradition protects him.
Even if the police are like, "No, I don't care what you heard about child rape, I need to hear directly from an actual witness or I won't investigate it," (Aside- how often do you even have a voluntary witness that calls the police? I guess no investigation without a witness makes it easier to be a detective) Paterno knows who that witness is.
For fuck's sake, the police actually investigated complaints about one of the Onion's ridiculous tweets about a hostage situation. I assume there was no witness because there was no hostage situation.
This is the worst ass covering I've ever heard. Paterno better hope the fact that he is an old, senile tradition protects him.
EviLore said otherwise.wenis said:
On-topic: Ugh, that grand jury report was infuriating. Hopefully they convict him and the people who tried to cover it up.
Instigator
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GoldenEye 007 said:
Yeah, but how do you involuntarily rape minors you're coaching? He had to know they were minors and it's not like he was forced at gun point to rape any of them.
Rice-Eater
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This quote popped into my head as I was reading the story. Really sad to know this was going on so long and that a College Football legend like Joe Paterno probably turned a blind eye to it.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
So, as stated in the CFB thread, I grew up in State College. I attended school with one of his kids and have attended sleep overs at hos house. I've never witnessed any of the behavior alleged, or heard any stories from the others that were there. Maybe he was smart enough not to victimize his son's friends. Or maybe je left me alone because my bowl haircut was a boner killer. I dunno. But now my childhood feels creepy as fuck.
SolidSnakex
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Watching Mike and Mike (an ESPN radio show that also airs on EPSN2) and this story is one of their Top Stories that they're going to get into more as the show goes on. It's also now one of the first stories that SportsCenter is talking about. This is heating up fast.
BertramCooper
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Perhaps there's some element of truth to that, Scott, but at the very least, I would think that your dad would have enough sense to stop him from holding youth football camps and Second Mile charity events in PSU football facilities. Which he continued to do, long after one of your grad assistants found him raping a boy in the shower.
The spin is just pathetic. They're a bunch of ostriches with their heads in the sand.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
BertramCooper said:
Scotty Paterno is a jerk and I'm still mad at him for messing up my bike.
But in seriousness, did JoePa do everything he could have done? No, I'm sure he could have done more. But I'm sure there were other factors as far as him knowing Jerry for such a long time, perhaps some guilt as screwing him out of the head coaching job that was supposed to be his, and just some old schoolishness?
I put more blame on the University than Joe.
uhh.. these people are fucked.
I haven't spent a decade studying the intricacies of our legal system nor do I preside over a campus police force but I'm pretty fucking sure that "inappropriate sexual conduct" with a minor is always a crime.
Jesus, the guy retired 4 years prior amid allegations that he sexually assaulted children on campus. Absolutely unbelievable. At first, I thought JoePa would survive this but no way.
Sorry, but you didn't even come close to doing enough when you were given a first hand report. You let your superiors drop it so that yourself and the university could save face.
I haven't spent a decade studying the intricacies of our legal system nor do I preside over a campus police force but I'm pretty fucking sure that "inappropriate sexual conduct" with a minor is always a crime.
Jesus, the guy retired 4 years prior amid allegations that he sexually assaulted children on campus. Absolutely unbelievable. At first, I thought JoePa would survive this but no way.
Sorry, but you didn't even come close to doing enough when you were given a first hand report. You let your superiors drop it so that yourself and the university could save face.
BertramCooper
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I'll be curious to see if his charity survives this.
Granted, I don't know much about The Second Mile, but from what I do know, it has become a very substantial organization throughout Pennsylvania. Even though Sandusky will no longer have anything to do with it, will parents still want their children to be a part of it? And will people still donate to keep it going?
The fact that he appears to have started it as a means to target children is just really, really sickening.
Granted, I don't know much about The Second Mile, but from what I do know, it has become a very substantial organization throughout Pennsylvania. Even though Sandusky will no longer have anything to do with it, will parents still want their children to be a part of it? And will people still donate to keep it going?
The fact that he appears to have started it as a means to target children is just really, really sickening.
GoldenEye 007
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I mean it was involuntary on part of the minor.Instigator said:
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
truly101 said:
Like in terms of national impact? Or in terms that despite not being rapists, Duke lacrosse players are still douchebags?
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
truly101 said:
Yeah, but I think for different reasons. So many class/race issues came up in the Duke cases. Hopefully, there will be less ancillary idiocy like the alleged victim being given a free college ride, for basically being a liar.
TheOrangeKid007
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How did McQueary live with himself? That is what I want to know. Instead of intervening ,he went home and told his Dad. Wasn't he still in his late 20s at the time? The guy is like 6'4"...why not go in there and physically take down the old man going to town on a kid?
I know how he lived with himself. He was promoted to assistant coach.
I know how he lived with himself. He was promoted to assistant coach.
SolidSnakex
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TheOrangeKid007 said:
Almost everyone in this story comes across as being pretty dirty. You've got a bunch of people that know about at least one kid being raped and none of them went to the cops. The fallout from this will be huge.
ChiTownBuffalo said:
Well the Duke case was initially presented like the archetypal racial crime, boorish entitled white northeasterners from elitest institution rape a young black single mother townie, who's gonna take down the man, John Grisham style? It was almost tailor made for Hollywood if it had played out like everyone assumed it would.
Child abuse is less "romantic" in that there are no winners here, just a lot of embarrassment and pain. I don't know how young kids recover from this, the psychological and emotional damage they have to carry for the rest of their lives makes it almost worse than murder. If it happened to one of my children, I would feel defeated and lost, angry. I just don't understand it.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
truly101 said:
Well, like I stated earlier, I was friends with Sandusky's son. Its been decades since I was last in contact with him, but I keep wondering what he and the rest of family are going through.
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