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Paleo Diet 101: How and why you should eat like a Caveman

Dash27

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What is paleo?

In a nutshell the idea is that humans adapted to eating a certain diet as hunter gatherers for hundreds of thousands of years. This ended about 10,000 years ago with the advent of agriculture and the introduction of grains to our diets as well as domesticated animals and dairy products.

Since we are not especially well adapted to some of the relatively modern foods, if a cavemen didn’t eat it, we shouldn’t either.

Eat non-processed whole foods. Meats, fish, veggies, fruit. No grains (bread, cereal etc), processed sugars, legumes (peanuts, soy and beans in general are the big ones here) and avoid dairy (milk, cheese, etc *note some variants allow dairy in moderation, notably the Primal Blueprint).

You’ll get some variation on what to eat depending on who you read, but essentially it’s the same principles. The main take home points are whole foods, nothing processed. No grains, no processed sugars.

Why should I try this?

In my view everything should be treated with both skepticism and an open mind. This is no different. If you have said to yourself "I need to start eating better", then this might be worth your while.

At the very least, the idea of eating whole, unrefined, unprocessed foods wherever possible has absolutely worked for me. Paleo brings that ideal and adds some other layers on top: No grains (various reasons), no sugars, no dairy, no legumes. I can't say if any or all of those are necessary to anyone, but I am compelled enough to try. I know quite a few people who eat this way and they swear by it. So I'm creating this thread to inform those who would like to know more about it.

How strict is it?

First, don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Shoot for 100% but even 80% compliance is said to offer the vast majority of the benefits. So if you eat a cookie, nobody will arrest you. Just be sensible. You get out what you put in.

Eliminating all grains seems daunting, but for me it hasnt been as bad as I thought it would be. Same with sugar. I still crave my oatmeal from time to time, and I even indulge it on rare occasion. I sweeten my tea with honey. I have milk post workout. But I also make sure I eat quality protein, veggies and good fats with every meal and that's the lion's share of my daily calories.

A good article on not paralyzing yourself by over analyzing or trying to be too perfect with this:

http://balancedbites.com/2012/06/paleo-perfectionism.html

”Life is about not just being healthy, but being able to enjoy being healthy!”

Is this Low Carb?

I would say it's lower carb than a typical western diet. I dont think that makes it "low", or at least it shouldnt. If you note the food pyramids veggies are #2 on that list so make sure you're getting them. If you currently eat a lot of bread, cereal, bagels, pasta, sugary drinks including fruit juice.. yeah it's low carb comparatively.

Speaking of carbs, I cut them and I'm not feeling so energetic. It's been about a week now:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/low-carb-flu/#axzz2H2cyhzbE

Nonetheless, for some folks, there’s a common, temporary but still bothersome bump in the road on the way to that Primal prize. Though it varies, it often means a couple weeks of mental fuzziness, fog and fatigue. Although your body might be off to the races, your brain can lag behind like a little brother in a stuffed snowsuit. It’s a game of “hey, wait up!” while the body’s mechanisms and metabolism align themselves. They call it “low carb flu,” and rest assured it’s just as temporary.

Whatever happened to "Eat less exercise more"? That works.

This works for pure fat loss, generally speaking. Paleo is not a diet in the sense of how many people use the word. It's not a fat loss diet. It's a diet in the sense of here's what you should try to eat to be healthy.

The other problem with "eat less exercise more" is when you run into the person eating only pizza, bagels, cereal, ramen noodles, take out food etc and say "well just eat half a bagel and run around the block". They may lose weight but it's not really hitting the core of the problem. They'll likely be even more hungry... less food more expenditure... and it will be much more difficult to keep that up. Once they fail, the weight comes right back. You're also more likely to lose muscle and lean body mass, which isn't very helpful at all.


So what do I do exactly?

Give it a try for 30 days. Try this way of eating and see if you:

Feel better in general
Are not hungry every 2 hours
Look better
Sleep better
Have more energy



Eat:


Vegetables
Fruit
Lean Meats
Seafood
Healthy Fat
Nuts and Seeds

Avoid:

Grains
Dairy
Processed food and sugars
Legumes
Alcohol

Food Pyramid: ****NOTE this is from the Primal Blueprint (http://www.marksdailyapple.com)****
Primal is a variant of Paleo that allows some dairy. If you have problems with dairy or suspect you do, avoid it for 30 days then introduce slowly to see how you react to it.

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WHY cant I eat grains on this diet? What's wrong with whole grains? I thought that was healthy.

There is no simple, satisfying answer to this.

People seem to agree if you have celiac disease, gluten is really bad for you. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/celiac-disease/DS00319

Then you get into a grey area of "gluten intolerant". Is that real? Is it bullshit? Some first world syndrome? Are you intolerant? You have to decide that for yourself it seems like.

WebMD article: Only people with celiac need worry about it.
http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/celiac-disease/features/gluten-intolerance-against-grain

WSJ article: Celiac researcher says gluten intolerance exists:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576200393522456636.html

If "they're bad for you" is not acceptable on the face of it (and it shouldnt be), there are a lot of people who are happy to break it down for you. I've read through the pro and cons and at the end of the day I keep coming back to "Try it for 30 days and see what happens". Again, even the people arguing gluten and grains are fine for the majority admit that those with celiac disease should avoid gluten at all costs. They also argue there is not a lot of evidence backing the no grain gluten free thing (some say no evidence). So far as I can tell there may not be much hard evidence but there is some, and it seems to be getting traction.

Basically the Paleo arguments come down to:

- Grains are calorically dense but do not contain much in the way of nutrition. e.g. compare 100g of wheat bread to a cup of broccoli.
- Grains contain a lot of carbohydrate in a small package, this equates to a insulin spike when consumed
- Grains contain a high concentration of lectins (gluten is a lectin but there are many others). Many lectins are harmless, some may even be beneficial but some can be bad for your health. Lectins found in grains, in high concentrations are thought to be harmful to the stomach lining and thus cause inflammation, autoimmune issues and insulin resistance.

All of the above come from these articles:

http://whole9life.com/2010/03/the-grain-manifesto/

http://life.dailyburn.com/diet-and-nutrition/paleo-sounds-great-but-why-no-grains/

And for balance here is an article arguing against all of this:

http://www.outlawfitnesshq.com/why-grains-and-gluten-arent-bad-for-you

There is also a growing number of people who have begun to label themselves as gluten-intolerant, or gluten-sensitive. The medical industry now refers to this condition as non-celiac gluten-intolerance. This is not the same as celiac disease in that eating gluten is potentially dangerous to gluten-sensitive individual, but much less worrisome for the gluten-intolerant person. There are no antibodies for gluten present in non-celiac gluten-intolerant individuals and there is no observed damage to the lining and architecture of the intestine, unlike their celiac counterparts.

If you are an individual who is sensitive to gluten, allergic to gluten, or if you have full blown celiac disease, then gluten will make you feel miserable. It’s responsible for a whole host of health problems in these individuals, from headaches to IBS. The effects of gluten on celiac individuals are not new, and medical professionals have been using a gluten-free diet to treat these individuals for over 40 years.

While there is no doubt that gluten causes problems in the minority of the population, there is no evidence whatsoever that gluten is problematic for the average, gluten-tolerant individual.

And finally, Robb Wolf talking about the science behind gluten's effect on humans:

http://robbwolf.com/2011/01/12/hey-robb-this-person-said-gluten-free-diets-are-bogus/

in which he refers to (among other things), this article: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=celiac-disease-insights



So... no more bread or pasta... ever?

See above about the 80/20 adherence and "you dont need to be perfect". Try to be strict for 30 days. Reintroduce things slowly after that and see how your tolerance is. As I type this I'm getting ready to go over to my in-laws and she's making pasta. I'm eating some, with a lot of meatballs too. I also hit the gym 4 nights a week which gives me even more room for things like that. At least that's my rationale and I'm sticking to it...


MEALS

I personally find pictures to be the best way of communicating this way of eating. Below are examples of what I personally eat and a few things I plan to try. You may find some things not strictly paleo there, like cheese for example. See the above article on not having to be perfect.


Sample Breakfasts from Everyday Paleo: http://everydaypaleo.com/category/food/breakfast/

Italian Eggs:
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Sweet Potato Latkes:
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Roasted Eggplant Stacks
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Snacks: Some of the things I like to eat.

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Yes there is cheese next to the tomatoes in that picture… oh the shame of it all. Cheese isnt paleo. Primal allows some cheese. I like a little cheese now and then so I eat it in moderation.
Pictured: Cherries, blueberries, strawberries, raspberries. Macadamia nuts, almonds, sunflower seeds, munster cheese, grape tomatoes.

*Pro Tip on Macadamia nuts: they are crazy expensive. Try to find them in Costco or similar warehouse type food store.


Here is the closest I could find to what I do:

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Just deli turkey, wrap up some peppers, avocado, pickles whatever... No bread. I like them a lot. Try and get quality stuff. Ham or roast beef works well too. I also will put a slice of provolone in there. Tastes good.
Yes, deli turkey is processed. You're better off with a whole turkey breast and slicing that up... but nobody is perfect.


Sample Dinner: A couple of things I made.

Simple kebob with chicken, beef, peppers and tomato

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Greek Bifteki with a simple salad of greens, tomatoes and strawberries.

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Resources:

http://balancedbites.com/
http://robbwolf.com/
http://nomnompaleo.com/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

Benefits:

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Is this paleo?

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Common Criticisms:

Paleo is expensive!

http://robbwolf.com/2011/09/21/paleo-is-expensive/

Where do I get my vitamins and fiber?

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Books:

Practical Paleo: This is by far the best book that I own on the subject. It's full of great info, recipes, meal plans and guides.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936608758/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Everyday Paleo Family Cookbook: This one is another go to book. Great recipes, geared for a family with younger kids and what they might like too.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936608634/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Primal Blueprint: Excellent resource that goes into not only the hunter gatherer diet but exercising and general lifestyle changes that might help you. There is also a Quick & Easy Meals book for the Primal Blueprint. I've made a few of them and I like them a lot.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0982207786/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Make it Paleo: Extensive recipe list with simple and easy to prepare meals. Worth the money if you need more recipes, if not Practical Paleo has more info.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936608863/?tag=neogaf0e-20

There are others but these four are the ones I use the most by far. If you're looking for information, then go with Practical Paleo and Primal Blueprint. Lots of recipes are online but it seems the ones in the books are exclusive to print.

Sample meal plan for fat loss from Practical Paleo:

Day 1:
Breakfast - Swirly crustless quiche. Perfectly baked bacon.
Lunch - Mustard glazed chicken thighs. Green salad. Balsamic vinegrette
Dinner - Grilled Garlic Flank Steak with Peppers and Onions. Spinach

Day 2:
Breakfast - Left over swirly crustless quiche, left over flank steak w/ peppers and onions
Lunch - Wild Canned salmon with olives, lemon juice, tomato, evoo.
Dinner - Sage roasted turkey legs, roasted pearl onions, green salad

Day 3:
Breakfast - Eggs, perfectly baked bacon, kale.
Lunch - Mixed greens with wild canned salmon, asparagus, lemon juice, evoo
Dinner - Citrus & herb whole roasted chicken, simple baked kale chips

Day 4:
Breakfast - Grain Free Porridge, berries, left over citrus and herb chicken
Lunch - Spinach salad with walnuts & artichokes, left over roast chicken
Dinner - Chinese 5-spice lettuce cups
 

entremet

Member
I like Paleo a lot and started my fat loss journey with it. Right now, though I do the Perfect Health Diet, which is paleo plus safe starches--rice, yucca root, sweet potatoes--with intermittent fasting.

Since I weight train 4x a week, I needed some starchy carbs for refueling.

Paleo has great takeaways for those who don't want to follow it to the T.

--Sugar is really bad for weight loss.
--Gluten is a bigger issue than currently observed. I rarely eat the stuff now and feel better.
--Stick to natural, minimally process foods as your main food sources.
 

Volimar

Member
"I've always wanted to be as healthy as a caveman." - No one ever.


I don't have a problem with eating healthier, but these fads are based on some sketchy stuff. "Well you never saw a fat cave man." Yeah, cuz the fat ones got eaten first.... Don't confuse correlation with causation. It was an entirely different kind of life, altogether.


Don't let me down, GAF

I like Paleo a lot and started my fat loss journey with it. Right now, though I do the Perfect Health Diet, which is paleo plus safe starches--rice, yucca root, sweet potatoes--with intermittent fasting.

Since I weight train 4x a week, I needed some starchy carbs for refueling.

Paleo has great takeaways for those who don't want to follow it to the T.

--Sugar is really bad for weight loss.
--Gluten is a bigger issue than currently observed. I rarely eat the stuff now and feel better.
--Stick to natural, minimally process foods as your main food sources.


And it's a lot easier to go gluten free these days. If you're suffering, you really should try this.
 
Great post. Paleo has been very effective for me in keeping my energy levels high and losing stubborn belly fat. I've found that I sleep much better as well.

Buy in bulk and freeze meats. And for people who like to drink alcohol, just keep in mind that it stimulates similar hormonal responses to processed sugars. You can drink dry wines, vodka, gin, and even the occasional whisky or cognac, but of course do it in moderation.
 
I've been torn between messing around with an Atkins-style low carb diet or just going paleo for simplicity's sake.

What do use as a good source of fat? And what if I'm not very fond of vegetables?

Eating like 90% meat doesn't seem like a good idea, so I'd presume mix in a lot of veggies and nuts?

Why are nuts good but peanuts in particular bad?

I typically feel better and don't have sugar crashes, etc. when I'm on a low carb diet (basically notice most of the benefits you list), but I usually don't have much energy and I constantly feel hungry. Is that because I don't eat enough? Not enough fat? Packing on too much meat gets expensive. =/
 

Exuro

Member
My parents + siblings are doing this. Not sure how effective it is but my little brother seems to look "healthier" after removing grains/glutten- from his diet.
 

Red

Member
Kay, first job get something easy for breakfast that isn't cereal
Hardboiled eggs. Make a bunch on Monday, have enough for all week.

Or: cottage cheese and berries.

Or: poached eggs and turkey bacon.


I mean anything with eggs is pretty easy. Five minutes in a pan and you're good to go.
 

entremet

Member
"I've always wanted to be as healthy as a caveman." - No one ever.


I don't have a problem with eating healthier, but these fads are based on some sketchy stuff. "Well you never saw a fat cave man." Yeah, cuz the fat ones got eaten first.... Don't confuse correlation with causation. It was an entirely different kind of life, altogether.


Don't let me down, GAF
Over 10,000 years is pretty long for a fad :p
 

dantehemi

Member
Very excited for this thread. I have been keto for a year now, and lost about 120lbs in that time.

Paleo was always my next step, just not sure when I'm going to jump on board?

I plan to make paleo my lifestyle change, and keto is the tool to help me lose a large amount of weight...keto would be hard to maintain as a lifestyle I think?

Anyways great job making this thread and I hope we get a good Comunity here, you'll be hearing alot from me in the next little while, as I make my transition into the paleo lifestyle.
 

way more

Member
I really just sounds like any other diet to me be it South Beach, Atknis, or grapefruit. When people say things like this

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It's completely unverifiable and is the same thing raw milk, anti-aluminum, people who avoid all wi-fi networks, etc; enthusiasts say.



That said, eating that way is pretty easy and it's usually how I end up eating when I live alone.


Over 10,000 years is pretty long for a fad :p

10,000 is also the length of time we've been growing and eating grain, so it's not something I take seriously when people blithely give it up.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I'm in. I'll post back with results. My last diet I dropped 24 pounds doing something close to this except I was doing fat free Greek yogurt instead of full fat. My friend did a stricter Paleo and had similar results as me, both of our blood results came out fantastic, with dramatic drops in cholesterol levels as well as LDL/HDL ratio and triglycerides.
 

Dash27

Member
I like Paleo a lot and started my fat loss journey with it. Right now, though I do the Perfect Health Diet, which is paleo plus safe starches--rice, yucca root, sweet potatoes--with intermittent fasting.

Since I weight train 4x a week, I needed some starchy carbs for refueling.

Paleo has great takeaways for those who don't want to follow it to the T.

--Sugar is really bad for weight loss.
--Gluten is a bigger issue than currently observed. I rarely eat the stuff now and feel better.
--Stick to natural, minimally process foods as your main food sources.

Agree on all of that. I'm down with more starchy carbs if you're athletic, and less if weight loss is a big issue for you.

The gluten thing I'm still in between feeling like it's a fad and that it's something everyone should be aware of as a possible issue for them. So I'm playing it safe and trying it out for myself.
 

pompidu

Member
Over 10,000 years is pretty long for a fad :p

I'm also not a caveman. I don't need the diet of a caveman, I'm not gathering and hunting food all day. I might give this diet a try. I got a little belly fat and a little bit of man boob fat I'm trying to get rid of.
 

Chris R

Member
No booze is a big reason I'd never be 100% Paleo but I'm going to slowly transition away from a Keto diet towards something more maintainable like a Paleo once I finally lose the rest of this weight I've been holding onto for 15+ years now.
 
I've been torn between messing around with an Atkins-style low carb diet or just going paleo for simplicity's sake.

What do use as a good source of fat? And what if I'm not very fond of vegetables?

Eating like 90% meat doesn't seem like a good idea, so I'd presume mix in a lot of veggies and nuts?

Why are nuts good but peanuts in particular bad?

I typically feel better and don't have sugar crashes, etc. when I'm on a low carb diet (basically notice most of the benefits you list), but I usually don't have much energy and I constantly feel hungry. Is that because I don't eat enough? Not enough fat? Packing on too much meat gets expensive. =/

1) Avacados and nuts like pistachios, almonds, macadamias, and cashews [unsalted of course] are all excellent sources of healthy fats. Also, heavy fish like salmon are great.

2) Vegetables are a huge part. Good nutrients and the fiber keeps you full. Always eat a serving of veggies or fruit with your meals.

3) Peanuts are legumes, which means that they are almost always processed. Also, they don't have as much good fat in them as nuts.

4) You probably just need to eat more. But if you're really feeling slow you could throw in a sugar boost from a banana or a small handful of blueberries. I cheat before workouts with a small piece of dark chocolate and it helps me out a lot.
 

Red

Member
I really just sounds like any other diet to me be it South Beach, Atknis, or grapefruit. When people say things like this

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It's completely unverifiable and is the same thing raw milk, anti-aluminum, people who avoid all wi-fi networks, etc; enthusiasts say.



That said, eating that way is pretty easy and it's usually how I end up eating when I live alone.
When you try to reduce the lifestyle to those points it becomes easy to dismiss. But look at the bigger picture, the one it primarily attempts to address, and its context in history: what is it that changed about our way of living that gave rise to the influx of new and increasing dietary diseases over the past few decades?
 

Dash27

Member
The more you complicate your diet the less likely you will stick to it.

That's one of the reasons I like this one. I think it's pretty straight forward. The caveman thing might be seen as gimmicky but the whole unprocessed foods I know works for me. Eliminating grains 100% might be going overboard but ditching cereal, bread, pasta, bagels are all good ideas if you're struggling.
 

markot

Banned
One article must be right!

Without grains and farming we wouldnt be here. There would be no civilisation.

Its all the same flavour of bus. People trying to sell ideas and books and shit. Eat less exercise more and avoid junk foods. Its not rocket science. We are getting fatter because we are more sedentary and eat more energy than we are using.

Fad diets don't do anything but get in the way.
 

harSon

Banned
Why no herbs and spices??? Wtf is that shit.

People make exceptions with these types of diets. Like some people allow Whey Protein Powder, considering Paleo friendly alternatives cost a ridiculous lump of change.
 
paleo can't do this.. and im sorry spaghetti squash and cauliflower rice are just not the same, i've tried them before

paleo isn't the only way in the world to be healthy

and im not a caveman, its 2013!
 

way more

Member
When you try to reduce the lifestyle to those points it becomes easy to dismiss. But look at the bigger picture, the one it primarily attempts to address, and its context in history: what is it that changed about our way of living that gave rise to the influx of new and increasing dietary diseases over the past few decades?


If paleo was really the cure then it would be the diseases that have arisen in the past dozen millennia.

And it's a perfect opportunity to start buying your spices whole and in bulk and grinding them yourself. You'll never go back to those jars they sell in supermarkets if you do.

I think you can do that without going paleo.
 

harSon

Banned
One article must be right!

Without grains and farming we wouldnt be here. There would be no civilisation.

Its all the same flavour of bus. People trying to sell ideas and books and shit. Eat less exercise more and avoid junk foods. Its not rocket science. We are getting fatter because we are more sedentary and eat more energy than we are using.

Fad diets don't do anything but get in the way.

How exactly is that an argument against Paleo dieting, or proof that eating those types of foods are beneficial to human health?
 
I don't get why dairy should not be allowed. Evolutionarily we have adapted to process milk well into adulthood, at least those of us who descend from milk drinking cultures.
 

Dash27

Member
paleo can't do this.. and im sorry spaghetti squash and cauliflower rice are just not the same, i've tried them before

paleo isn't the only way in the world to be healthy

and im not a caveman, its 2013!

All true.

There's no way I'm giving up spaghetti and meatballs completely. Or anything else. This is about trying it and seeing how it works for you. At that point 80% compliance leaves room for a bit of anything on a regular basis. Especially if you also exercise regularly.
 

entremet

Member
One article must be right!

Without grains and farming we wouldnt be here. There would be no civilisation.

Its all the same flavour of bus. People trying to sell ideas and books and shit. Eat less exercise more and avoid junk foods. Its not rocket science. We are getting fatter because we are more sedentary and eat more energy than we are using.

Fad diets don't do anything but get in the way.

Oh I agree. But I also think that paleo focus on whole foods helps you get more nourishment. Meat, fish, poultry, veggies are way more nutrient dense than grains and processed junk.
 

Zaptruder

Banned
I've been meaning to give this a shot.

Got a new blender as well (independently of this) - so that'll help this go down easily.


Fruit, Veg, Nuts (except peanuts), Meat and healthy oils. I think I can live like that for a bit.
 
Stumbled upon Mark's Daily Apple about 3 years ago, and have been eating that way since.

It's amazing how big it's become, even saw a 'Paleo for dummies' the other day.

Ate like crap from Thanksgiving to Christmas so I've started a Whole 30 this month. Carb flu is kicking my ass at the moment.


Would highly recommend this book to everyone:
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harSon

Banned
If paleo was really the cure then it would be the diseases that have arisen in the past dozen millennia.

To be fair, there are links to modern eating and the increasing of degenerative diseases. Indigenous populations within the Amazon for example had little in the way of diseases (more like non-existent) such as cancer, diabetes, etc. and obesity was a foreign concept (they had ridiculously lean body fat percentages). They had diets that were high in fats/proteins, low to moderate in fruits/legumes/nuts and lacking in grains and sugars for obvious reasons. Basically the modern low-carb diet. Once contact with Western civilization occured, and their diets began to normalize into those in line with the West's, obesity became an epidemic and diseases that were absent from their civilizations began to creep in.
 
But cavemen had a low life expectancy.

Actually life expectancy dropped with the rise of agriculture.

Agriculture was and is necessary though. It produces food surpluses that could not exist if everyone went paleo. A paleo diet is basically a luxury for those in the first world with a decent income. Grains are the cheapest fillers.
 

oneils

Member
Hardboiled eggs. Make a bunch on Monday, have enough for all week.

Or: cottage cheese and berries.

Or: poached eggs and turkey bacon.


I mean anything with eggs is pretty easy. Five minutes in a pan and you're good to go.

Cottage cheese is dairy. So we are kind of left with just eggs. However, lots of people have an intolerance to eggs.

So what do paleo aficionado's suggest for breakfast? That would be the hard part for me about this diet. When I did eat right, I usually started the day with oats as it was simple. I think most people end up compromising on breakfast. I bet most paleos do sneak in dairy and grains for breakfast. Especially if you have an intolerance to eggs.

Not something to get worked up about, I guess.
 

Red

Member
If paleo was really the cure then it would be the diseases that have arisen in the past dozen millennia.
It's mostly a reaction against the over processed foods of the past 50-some years. Agricultural revolution as a whole is addressed by the literature. Keep in mind the ease of getting food today as opposed to the past, and it becomes easier to see why it is a problem today. That, coupled with advances in archaeological sciences allowing us to confirm what more primitive humans actually ate (genetic/biological basis) provide a stronger case than "here's the magic bullet that will cure all your ills."

Diets are one of those touchy subjects though, like politics... No one else is right.
 

markot

Banned
How exactly is that an argument against Paleo dieting, or proof that eating those types of foods are beneficial to human health?
Because we were able to expand as a species beyond a few thousand people following a herd here and there?

When you start acting like they are the scourge of humanity... Or that they have no nutritional value, then you are officially insane.

Lots of thin healthy people eat this stuff all year, many as their main diet.

Stop trying to complicate being healthy and losing weight. Energy in and energy out. Its that simple. Don't cut out grains, fibres, dairy or whatever, don't just eat apples and cheese. A diet of varied foods and healthy foods is all you need.

We should t go paleo or present paleo or post Jurassic, we should not go Atkins or whatever the new trend is. Because trends don't last.
 
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