GAF isn't the majority, wasn't for us.
No idea, takes years of data for a definitive answer.
No idea but it's apart of their TV agenda.
The same corporation just announced they're are buying a dev for $2.5 Billion, they have money to spare.
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Opinion: 6 Months Later - The Phil Spencer Effect
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GAF isn't the majority, wasn't for us.
No idea, takes years of data for a definitive answer.
No idea but it's apart of their TV agenda.
The same corporation just announced they're are buying a dev for $2.5 Billion, they have money to spare.
Okay, I need to admit that this experiment did not work out here. We now have about 100 responses and only a few actually respond to the statements I wrote about. I think the most people in here did not read what I was saying.
It was just my intention to actually add some more discussable value here - something different, more comprehensive than the usual "sell me on console XY" threads and two-sentence posts. I tried to use simple facts in combination with my own opinion on these things - and an interesting, overstating heading to heat up discussions.
But that's okay, I probably chose the wrong format. It was worth the try
It was just my intention to actually add some more discussable value here - something different, more comprehensive than the usual "sell me on console XY" threads and two-sentence posts. I tried to use simple facts in combination with my own opinion on these things - and an interesting, overstating heading to heat up discussions.
But that's okay, I probably chose the wrong format. It was worth the try
TheUnsunghero26
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Phil's a good dude. Always appreciate getting a response from him on twitter.
Xbox live changes for me, makes it affordable to run as a second machine
But no matter what new face they put on things, for me I can't shake the feeling they are always pushing to see what they can get away with, and at the moment it is only fear of backlash that is keeping them straight.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Despite what I said just a few posts ago, Sunset Overdrive has me interested in getting an XB1. It won't be enough by itself, but if they had a wider variety of exclusives I'd have already bought an XB1 by now. If your not into Gears, Halo or Forza it seems pointless to get one now.
He got rid of Kinect which is cool but that Tomb Raider exclusive deal was a low blow to gamers worldwide. I can understand if Square Enix needed the money or Crystal Dynamics needed a publisher but simply paying to cock block everyone else? Not cool Microsoft.
If Phil Spencer wants to win me over, he's going to have to step up Microsoft's pathetic line up of first party developers. They're pretty much all about Halo and Forza, that's about it.
I believe in Phil and think he is the right man for the job but I'm not won over yet.
If Phil Spencer wants to win me over, he's going to have to step up Microsoft's pathetic line up of first party developers. They're pretty much all about Halo and Forza, that's about it.
I believe in Phil and think he is the right man for the job but I'm not won over yet.
Okay, I need to admit that this experiment did not work out here. We now have about 100 responses and only a few actually respond to the statements I wrote about. I think the most people in here did not read what I was saying.
It was just my intention to actually add some more discussable value here - something different, more comprehensive than the usual "sell me on console XY" threads and two-sentence posts. I tried to use simple facts in combination with my own opinion on these things - and an interesting, overstating heading to heat up discussions.
But that's okay, I probably chose the wrong format. It was worth the try
Look at my profile picture, I'm right there with you.
fargofallout
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What am I looking at? Are you a Microsoft employee? Who puts so much work into talking about someone they presumably don't know?
The Maverick
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He was involved in the Kinect era 360, inception of the original Xbox One, the DRM, etc. I don't think his hands are as clean as folks like to make them out to be. With that said, he's at least corrected the brand back to a decent place with his latest couple of moves. As long he's smart enough to avoid any colossal type of blunders for the rest of the generation, Xbox will do ok.
Okay, I need to admit that this experiment did not work out here. We now have about 100 responses and only a few actually respond to the statements I wrote about. I think the most people in here did not read what I was saying.
It was just my intention to actually add some more discussable value here - something different, more comprehensive than the usual "sell me on console XY" threads and two-sentence posts. I tried to use simple facts in combination with my own opinion on these things - and an interesting, overstating heading to heat up discussions.
But that's okay, I probably chose the wrong format. It was worth the try
Next time, don't try and be fancy. Type out your thoughts, and seriously because of the image your links can't be clicked.
Also, I find it hilarious that you say Minecraft "joined" Microsoft.
Hoo boy. This OP is more cringeworthy than the Bloodborne CE PR.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Are you aware that this is essentially not true?
Steverulez
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I think he's done a decent job, theres also a long way to go. Theres plenty of potentially great games coming (imo anyway), smarter decision making with things like skus, XBLG etc even if a lot of it seems like common sense.
I wouldn't have paid for TR exclusivity personally unless it was pretty cheap which is unlikely but I suspect they either thought it was a good deal or needed something to fill a gap in their line-up because something got delayed or they felt they were a title light.
I wouldn't have paid for TR exclusivity personally unless it was pretty cheap which is unlikely but I suspect they either thought it was a good deal or needed something to fill a gap in their line-up because something got delayed or they felt they were a title light.
He's been great for Xbox. He green lit phantom dust, crackdown, Halo 2 remake....and I don't see any issue with Tombraider exclusivity either, if you have money to spend to secure games and make them tailored for your console do it. Other companies have done this in the past, its standard and acceptable.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Oh please dude, it does not take years of data to know that this was a waste of money. There has not been one shred of data that suggests that hardcore fantasy football players have an inkling of interest in purchasing an Xbox One over this. Those people have tablets and smartphones that can accomplish the same thing.
$400M is not chump change like you may think it is.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
why not?
Commanche Raisin Toast
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I agree on all points.
The TR deal to me is akin to a land grab in the midst of diplomacy troubles.
Dr_LucienSanchez
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If even r/xboxone users are claiming that this is 'too much,' then I think we've got a problem. They're right though, this is totally one of the most cringe-worthy things to pop up there (with the GAF seal of approval!!!) and also here (with said stamp now removed).
Anyway, while the xbone is a much more attractive proposition nowadays, I don't get the super-high admiration that some people have for this guy. He was around for all the xbox blunders, and in a high capacity. It's just that Microsoft as a whole decided to restructure/rephrase their corporate message regarding xbox.
Anyway, while the xbone is a much more attractive proposition nowadays, I don't get the super-high admiration that some people have for this guy. He was around for all the xbox blunders, and in a high capacity. It's just that Microsoft as a whole decided to restructure/rephrase their corporate message regarding xbox.
aspiegamer
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To actually cover the OT--
Is there any evidence, anywhere, that anything he has done has permeated into the general populace/consumer base? Can the average person looking to buy a new console know about any of his reforms and ideas? Have there been any "positive PR" news stories about Microsoft this year? Does anyway other than NeoGAF members and industry members actually know who the hell this guy is? Even a majority of NeoGAF members?
Answer to all is no. The people he has "restored faith" with were mostly already in the Microsoft camp and were looking for reassuring that the sky wasn't falling.
Has Microsoft's position in the video games market substantively changed? Have sales bounded? Is the "gap" closing? Has anything on the chalkboard meme actually come to help the situation? Is the current momentum in Microsoft's favor? No, no, no and no. In terms of "big picture" he's meant next to nothing. We can check again in 6 months for a sales shift and in 12-18 months to see what first-party offerings have expanded.
Is there any evidence, anywhere, that anything he has done has permeated into the general populace/consumer base? Can the average person looking to buy a new console know about any of his reforms and ideas? Have there been any "positive PR" news stories about Microsoft this year? Does anyway other than NeoGAF members and industry members actually know who the hell this guy is? Even a majority of NeoGAF members?
Answer to all is no. The people he has "restored faith" with were mostly already in the Microsoft camp and were looking for reassuring that the sky wasn't falling.
Has Microsoft's position in the video games market substantively changed? Have sales bounded? Is the "gap" closing? Has anything on the chalkboard meme actually come to help the situation? Is the current momentum in Microsoft's favor? No, no, no and no. In terms of "big picture" he's meant next to nothing. We can check again in 6 months for a sales shift and in 12-18 months to see what first-party offerings have expanded.
In case you missed it, these headlines are just copied and pasted from the links. That's just because I was lazy. Why do people always think about bad intentions?
However, I understand your argument about the not-clickable links.
The links I am referring to (clickable):
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/misc/2014/mar14/03-31corpemail.aspx
http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-phil-spencer-interview-major-nelson
http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-china
http://news.xbox.com/2014/05/xbox-xbox-at-e3-2014
http://news.xbox.com/2014/05/xbox-delivering-more-choices
http://news.xbox.com/2014/06/events-xbox-feedback-site-e3
http://news.xbox.com/2014/06/events-e3-2014-recap
http://news.xbox.com/2014/08/gamescom-new-xbox-one-features-video
http://news.xbox.com/2014/08/gamescom-media-briefing-highlights
http://news.xbox.com/2014/09/xbox-one-welcoming-29-new-markets-to-xbox-one
http://news.xbox.com/2014/09/games-minecraft-to-join-microsoft
shacklesmcgee
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OP did you make this? Not trying to be a dick or anything, but why?
CD will not be overstretched and can take full advantage of the machine, MS are also collaborating from what I remember from Phil's interview during the announcement, well get a better game because of it. This wasn't a problem for me when Sony did this, nor was it an issue when MS did this in the past with Splinter cell. I don't buy "what about the gamers" mantra.
Bad intentions? No I just think PR is PR, and saying a purchase is "joining" is funny as shit.
Dr_LucienSanchez
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Oh god, this is too good. There should also probably be some percentage allocated for how FIFA 15 is better with kinect.
Yep, and I agree with that. Still, I just copied & pasted (like all the others, too)
He just likes to make infographics with infos in it. Let people reach for those stars!
Like this:
Xenon
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No, there are many people in there doing good things. The OS update team for example are killing it right now, except for the screen cap thing.
OP, you can not really say what would or would not have happen had Phil not taken over. Some of the those changes you listed could have already been in the works. I like Phil, and he seems like a cool guy. But we'll need to wait a few years to judge the effect of his leadership.
This wasn't just an xbox deal. It was a MS deal mainly. That's why there are nothing but surface pros used in nfl now. Either way the nfl deal didn't have a negative effect of Xbox imo. No different then getting any other app on your platform. Except this deal gives them the opportunity to advertise during games which bring in the highest rating on tv week after week. This deal didn't take away anything from Xbox
Chobel
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1)Or they can outsource the other versions... like they always do.
2) MS always collaborate with 3rd parties, at least for big games, and we've seen it in Destiny and Diablo 3. So exclusive or not, it will not change that.
Well it does but it doesn't have an infographic with corporate branding guidelines that says that.
HawksWinStanley
Member
He seems like a genuine dude that legitimately cares about games and gaming. I don't get the same smarmy weasel vibes Mattrick put out there.
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
And also this (although I'm sad that NeoGAF didn't get a mention for its appreciation of the faceless heroes):
Okay, I need to admit that this experiment did not work out here. We now have about 100 responses and only a few actually respond to the statements I wrote about. I think the most people in here did not read what I was saying.
It was just my intention to actually add some more discussable value here - something different, more comprehensive than the usual "sell me on console XY" threads and two-sentence posts. I tried to use simple facts in combination with my own opinion on these things - and an interesting, overstating heading to heat up discussions.
But that's okay, I probably chose the wrong format. It was worth the try
I hope you realize that your messaging is part of your message.
JetBlackPanda
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I don't know what I expected when I opened this thread but it wasn't that graphic.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
Allforce
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This is not an opinion, really. Xbox is simply doing much better and pleasing more people with Phil's leadership than prior to it. Xbox One is doing fine. It won't be the leading console this gen but neither was PS3 last gen (for the most part) and that thing still sold millions and millions of units.
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