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FearlessBelgian
Member
What bothers me personally is the catastrophic performance with recent hardware and using DLSS...
The intro of Starfield is probably the least appealing of any Bethesda game (that i played). Even Fallout 4 was better than that. But i'm talking about the first 2 hours, the intro and tutorial.
The 12 hours thing on the other hand is bullshit. It sounds like some justification from people who shat on the game too soon thinking everybody was going to be on their side.
Obviously the game makes more sense when you get the full picture of every location, every discovery, of your character progression and possibilities. Doesn't mean the game is boring for 10 hours, it's part of the process.
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Ribi
Member
No, you must wait 2 year until all the mods are out to fairly give it it's criticism.
Agent_Nobody
Member
When you have 50 hours under your belt and you’re still learning things and tweaking your build you tend to appreciate not having everything thrown at you all at once right at the start.
Progression in an RPG is kind of crucial.
Progression in an RPG is kind of crucial.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
What changes after 12 hours? The AI is not dump anymore and the guns ,excluding pistols, are not too weak anymore?
BlackTron
Member
Checks out
Agent_Nobody
Member
Access to better ship modules, weapon mods, suit mods, outpost mods, powers, and magazine bonuses, more companions that you’ve found, more side quests that added up, more merchants to sell to, more cosmetic choices, higher scaling enemies with better loot...I could go on...
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Almost everything excluding maybe higher scaling enemies (the not so dump ones if there is any), and powers sounds like the same "boredom".
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Humdinger
Member
As did Morrowind. Very memorable opening.
And Oblivion's wasn't bad, either. Sure, you were stuck in a dungeon, but Patrick Stewart showed up. And it wasn't long until you were out.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I was never bored. It just had so many systems it took me a while to settle into the flow.
I'd say I was hooked a few hours in.
I'd say I was hooked a few hours in.
ZehDon
Gold Member
The hyperbole around this game is really something special. The intro lasts about an hour. By hour four, I'd done two excellent side quests, explored a moon, battled in space, re-customised my character using the in-game plastic surgeon, fought pirate bounty hunters, re-painted my ship, started collecting board games, and started to understand the build I want to play. At that point, I was all in. Now at hour 10, I've re-made my ship, started down what appears to be a full fat quest line, explored two moons, had several random encounters in space and on planets, completed two large scale "dungeons", and so much more. And I feel like I've barely started playing at all. It's insane how easily those 10 hours just evaporated for me. There's no progression point where the game "starts" twelve hours in. This isn't Final Fantasy.
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Pallas
Member
Bernoulli
why are you so concern about Starfield? Have you even played the game? You are constantly downplaying it, making redundant threads about it when it can all be in the OT. You are basically trolling and astroturfing. 
EviLore
and mods, this deserves at least a warning right? His obsession is getting a tad ridiculous. It’s like
SenjutsuSage
crazy.Reizo Ryuu
Member
Speak for your goddamn self thank you very much, and no your thread title isn't fact.
If you are bored with it, sure, fine, nobody can force you to have different interests, but I haven't been bored a single second.
Calling it a slow start is also just an incredible misnomer, the game throws you into the deep end almost immediately; oh hi we were just about to mine som- pirate attack! Oh hey I like you, here's my ship for free, and a cool companion as well. What you need to go do? lol whatever you want my guy.
Maybe the lack of pure hand held, brain turned off, cinematic experience is too overwhelming for you which you mistake for boring.
Morrie’s wig shop
Member
A good buddy of mine does this reads it then clicks the next response.
Playing ESO with him is a pain in the ass lol
I gotta listen to them talk
manlisten
Member
The opening of this game very much reminds me of the opening to Mass Effect 1. On a mission with your crew, stumble upon an alien artifact, see a vision, black out. Then you’re dropped into the Citadel (New Atlantis) and faff around for a few hours talking to NPCs and taking on tasks. Eventually the action picks up and you’re taken on a crazy ride.
Again, I’m starting to understand why this game has clicked with me, and for others not so much.
Again, I’m starting to understand why this game has clicked with me, and for others not so much.
MangalaX
Neo Member
I'm like 10 hrs into it and it didnt feel slow at all, wish I had better hardware to run it over 30fps.
My humble and honest opinion:
-They nailed it with the interiors, looks of the materials and all of that. I love picking up stuff.
-The characters have been moving the story foward so far.
-3 to 4hrs in you can do a lot of exploring on your own.
-I have played some cool missions and I imagine there are more around the corner.
-The planet exploring has been the only thing I haven't like that much, is very empty and samey, you encounter the same flora and fauna over and over again. (like literally you only find 1 or types or materials in the hole planet.
-Some places that appear on the map dont have ANYTHING, just the name and give you xp when found.
My humble and honest opinion:
-They nailed it with the interiors, looks of the materials and all of that. I love picking up stuff.
-The characters have been moving the story foward so far.
-3 to 4hrs in you can do a lot of exploring on your own.
-I have played some cool missions and I imagine there are more around the corner.
-The planet exploring has been the only thing I haven't like that much, is very empty and samey, you encounter the same flora and fauna over and over again. (like literally you only find 1 or types or materials in the hole planet.
-Some places that appear on the map dont have ANYTHING, just the name and give you xp when found.
nowhat
Member
That's what she said!
Boots_the_God
Member
I think the start is fine. There’s a lot of systems going on that they need to introduce you to. I’ve been loving the game so far.
Games of Today
Member
It's obviously all subjective but I feel like a lot of people play these games with the wrong expectations.
I didn't go into this expecting or even wanting an in depth narrative campaign like it's God of War or The Last of Us or something.
I went into this expecting and wanting a detailed and authentic feeling Space Life Simulator and let me tell you, so far it's been an outstanding experience. I haven't even touched the main quest yet other the visiting the Lodge and getting a bed.
I didn't go into this expecting or even wanting an in depth narrative campaign like it's God of War or The Last of Us or something.
I went into this expecting and wanting a detailed and authentic feeling Space Life Simulator and let me tell you, so far it's been an outstanding experience. I haven't even touched the main quest yet other the visiting the Lodge and getting a bed.
fart town usa
Gold Member
I'm trying to think of a game I enjoy that takes a while to get going. I know there are a few but can't pinpoint them.
Hard for me to play stuff like that these days, so many games are insanely long and I just don't have time for that stuff. In this case I don't even have an Xbox or PC to play it but Starfield does seem like a great game all the same. Some of the combat I've seen looks great and I like how you close the gun looks. Just has an intense vibe from what I've seen.
Hard for me to play stuff like that these days, so many games are insanely long and I just don't have time for that stuff. In this case I don't even have an Xbox or PC to play it but Starfield does seem like a great game all the same. Some of the combat I've seen looks great and I like how you close the gun looks. Just has an intense vibe from what I've seen.
balls of snow
Member
I was having fun at hour 3 brah.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Did you spend more than a few minutes in "space" in the game? Because so far for me was 99,99% of the time inside planets and loading screens.
GymWolf
Member
Yeah sorry, i don't see it.
In the first 2 hours of starfield you:
Not in order:
Discover the plot incipit
You have various gunfights
You explore a whole dungeon
You get a companion
You get to know the major characters in the plot
If i remeber well you get to flight a spaceship
Absolutely not sure what you do in the first 2 hours of f3 or f4 that trump all of that except if you like fantasy medieval or post nuclear war scenario over space stuff, because i'm pretty sure that space nuts got multiple orgasm when they got out the first time from the mine or get to fly a ship and see the universe around them with good graphical fidelity, they probably felt how you felt when you left the bunker in f3 or saw the dragon in skyrim.
Are you gonna imply that the whole growing up and getting out in f3 or having a wife and child and getting sheltered is somehow better written or more exciting that flying a damn spaceship with a robot companion and exploring a space dungeon...because it is not, unless spaceship stuff is not your thing at all.
Are those 2 hours incredible or special? No.
But like i said, i fail to see the 10x times better start in their previous games tbh.
But then again, i'm not a bethesda fanboy and i never liked their games that much, so maybe this is the reason why i find all of their openings bland and unimpressive.
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Games of Today
Member
Well what I meant is I wanted to feel like someone who lives in the new space age. Like traveling to different planets, working different jobs.
So far I'm essentially a Han Solo type character. Just accepted some cargo hauling contracts that I'm going to try later today.
But to answer your question, no I really haven't spent much time in space. I haven't even visited a space station yet.
The loading screens are really a shame, I know Bethesda could have done a much better job with them than they did.
I can't imagine how slow it must feel on Xbox with the loading.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Some of the biggest, most sacred console franchises that people are creaming about the sequels - were boring to me until about midway through the game. And those were action games lol.
I’ll give a pass to an RPG, but even then it’s what? A Dunkey video that brought this thread about?
People like to “discuss” these games but it’s only ever negativity.
I’ll give a pass to an RPG, but even then it’s what? A Dunkey video that brought this thread about?
People like to “discuss” these games but it’s only ever negativity.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
the mines at the start sure but it was to teach game mechanics
The awful is not being able to faster and have to wait for the NPCs and listen/talk to them
maybe Bethesda game are not for me or I had the wrong expectations before launch
Raven117
Member
There are lots of ways to teach game mechanics (Even Fallouts and Skyrim/Oblivion did a much better job), this was particularly boring. Clearly they were trying to go from "you are a nobody" to something important (like Skyrim), but the
whole...miner to...here take my ship
And yes...the slow walk not being able to skip it makes it even worse.
Bethesda games are for me. And this one will be no different. Im already getting into the groove and rhythm of it. But this did stick out as boring.
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
Not boring for me early on.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
You've been playing for 20 hours? How long did it take within that 20 hrs you've played for you to realize it was boring? I'm about 5 hrs in and haven't been bored one bit. I'm still getting my head around the systems and just how vast this game is. Just my short time with it has been phenomenal.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
I definitely wasnt bored for 12 hours. As soon as you get to New Atlantis youre in one of the most ridiculously expansive game cities ever made.
MarkMe2525
Member
12 hours? After like hour 2, I started doing my own thing.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Exactly
Punished Miku
Gold Member
BouncyFrag
Member
That title change…
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
That title change 
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Yeah if anything they push you too fast to get out there and do your own thing.
Between that and not having that "out of the sewer/vault" moment it feels very un-Bethesda for sure
MarkMe2525
Member
I had someone tell me it was "as fun as reading a book". I don't think they realized how much that spoke of them vs the game.
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