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Microsoft/Turn 10 are apparently deleting negative Forza Motorsport reviews from the Xbox PC app

Heisenberg007

Heisenberg007

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According to Reddit users in the r/forza subreddit, Microsoft/Turn 10 are deleting Forza Motorsport reviews. Other users in that thread seem to be confirming this.

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It'd be a good idea to keep an eye on this.

As of now, October 11, 3 AM PST, the reviews on Xbox store for the Premium and Standard editions are as follows, respectively:

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If others can track the number of reviews on the PC app, that'd be great. I can put that score in the OP and then we can match every now and then and confirm if the number of review scores go down again.

UPDATE -- Yes, Microsoft is deleting reviews. The Standard Edition on the Xbox Store had 847 total reviews (as can be seen above). Now it has only 602 total reviews.

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Flutta

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GHG said:
Par for the course, no negativity or feedback allowed at xbox.
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Yup, you can clearly see it around the internet aswell, specially in REEE. We even have GAF ”users” who really want to shutdown any negative feedback no matter how mellow they are. Disgusting behaviour. That’s why they will always wave that victim card like lill bitches 🤣
 
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mansoor1980

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but phil spencer said about ratings..........................

“My least favorite part of what I said is that quality games are crucial to Xbox strategy. So it’s not about the fact that Starfield scores 11 out of 10, is not our goal – although I acknowledge that this may sound ridiculous. I don’t know if I’ll take the reviews into account to evaluate its quality, but making the best Starfield possible is absolutely our goal. I want to make the best games possible,” said Phil Spencer.
 
Heisenberg007

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DGrayson said:
I never trust review platforms from the source. Maybe amazon but thats it. Always use a 3rd party and honestly GAF is the best review source for videogames on the internet.
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Many folks here have floated the idea, and I'm bringing it up again, that GAF should publish its own game reviews as well. Like Xbox Era, which has separate forum and review sections.

That might be a good way to talk about games, increase traffic, and increase sign-ups.
 
Daneel Elijah

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DGrayson said:
I never trust review platforms from the source. Maybe amazon but thats it. Always use a 3rd party and honestly GAF is the best review source for videogames on the internet.
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I said the same about Steam and some people talked me out of it. But who knows?
As for this thread, if true, and if it is the first case this gen for Xbox to do so...
They must have received huge pressure to feel the need to do it. We are not talking about fakes rewiews. But deleting real ones!
After TLOU and Horizon metacritic problems happened, Sony took action and since then metacritic changed when you can put a rewiew. If Xbox did the same here for their site and come clean about it I could maybe understand. But if not this is really low of them to do this...
Edit: for Steam it was about the best sellers list, not the reviews. Just in case.
 
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DavidGzz

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I am not following the game cause it doesn't interest me but how is it an 85 meta with 50% 1 star ratings on the app? Can anyone rate it even if they don't sub to Game Pass?
 
Flutta

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mansoor1980 said:
but phil spencer said about ratings..........................

“My least favorite part of what I said is that quality games are crucial to Xbox strategy. So it’s not about the fact that Starfield scores 11 out of 10, is not our goal – although I acknowledge that this may sound ridiculous. I don’t know if I’ll take the reviews into account to evaluate its quality, but making the best Starfield possible is absolutely our goal. I want to make the best games possible,” said Phil Spencer.
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Lmao this liar man. If that was the case he would’ve let Starfield cook for another year or two. Dude forced Todd to ship an unfinished product because they didn’t have any big games released for 2 years.
 
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Markio128

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DGrayson said:
I never trust review platforms from the source. Maybe amazon but thats it. Always use a 3rd party and honestly GAF is the best review source for videogames on the internet.
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Yeah, Amazon is good because you can at least see if the reviewer has purchased the product. I’m not sure if that’s the same with Xbox app, but it would make sense to only allow reviews from those who can be verified as owners of the game.
 
GHG

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DavidGzz said:
I am not following the game cause it doesn't interest me but how is it an 85 meta with 50% 1 star ratings on the app? Can anyone rate it even if they don't sub to Game Pass?
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Yet again they were very selective about who they gave review copies to.

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A 6-Year Hiatus for This? I’m Going Back to FM7

What is it with modern “reboots” for franchises being lackluster?! Just to start off: there are only 21 championships (each with 4-6 races) sprawling only 20 track locations, utilizing 500 cars. I’ve already beaten the “career” of these 21 championships in only 3 and 1/2 days of playing. This...
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PC version optimization is Joke :: Forza Motorsport General Discussions

RTX 4090 at 4K DLSS performance (which is 1080p) ray tracing off 49 fps average Source: https://wccftech.com/forza-motorsports-performance-is-highly-disappointing-on-pc/ Video: https://youtu.be/VT0TW-wfnJk
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Due to the bugs, performance issues and general structure of the career mode the official Forza forum, the steam forum and the subreddit are bedlam right now.

The only saving graces for the game seem to be the newly introduced online system and the improvements they've made to the car physics.

I don't know what they were thinking in releasing the game in this state along with having a career structure/grind that wouldn't look out of place in a F2P mobile game.

It's easy to say they needed more time, but they already had 6 years so there's nothing to say that more time would have solved anything.
 
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DJ12

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MidGenRefresh said:
6/10 is pretty much what this game deserves. The good news is that driving on a controller feels like 10/10.
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If you give 10/10 for it being unrealistic then year.

You have to try very hard to slide a car.

Maybe the casual mode is beneath me and the simulation mode is what I'm after. I'll try it later.
 
Gaiff

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I thought the problems were mostly on PC. What's wrong with the Xbox version? I've heard the career mode progression is like a mobile game but that can easily be fixed.
 
MidGenRefresh

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DJ12 said:
If you give 10/10 for it being unrealistic then year.

You have to try very hard to slide a car.

Maybe the casual mode is beneath me and the simulation mode is what I'm after. I'll try it later.
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Disable all assists, set steering to simulation, reduce deadzone and you’ll be sliding all you want. There’s no such thing as realistic driving on a controller. It just feels amazing, that’s it.
 
zephiross

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MidGenRefresh said:
Disable all assists, set steering to simulation, reduce deadzone and you’ll be sliding all you want. There’s no such thing as realistic driving on a controller. It just feels amazing, that’s it.
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Meh it's good for sure but it's understeer galore, even with a porsche (RWD, Mid engine so quite oversteer prone realistically), haven't tried with my DD pro yet but it's forza, you're not meant to play it with a wheel lol
 
SmokedMeat

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No surprise that any hardware maker would do this.

Even Epic cherry picks select user reviews
To post on their site.

Steam and GoG are the only trustworthy sources besides some Youtubers.
 
Thirty7ven

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DavidGzz said:
I am not following the game cause it doesn't interest me but how is it an 85 meta with 50% 1 star ratings on the app? Can anyone rate it even if they don't sub to Game Pass?
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Regarding the Meta, I listened to Defining Duke’s opinion on the game and the meta the other day and they basically admitted that despite playing little of the game they had no qualms saying it was a great game. They shrugged criticism off and excused themselves as being “normies” and maybe not seeing the things the more hardcore racing fans look for.

What I’me trying to say is that when it comes to racing games, sports games, a lot of the people reviewing them won’t even care that much about the genre and will hand out scores based on perceived quality. They actually don’t know if it’s a good game, but it seems like it’s doing what people expect out of a racing game, so here’s a 9/10.
 
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