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[Draugoth]

Via Axios:

Microsoft:

• Redfall/Starfield are Xbox/PC-only: "keeping with the need to offer some exclusive content while mitigating the economic costs and damage to its player-focused brand"
• Redfall "generated minimal sales"
• "Many other" future ZeniMax titles will be shipped on PS/Nintendo

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well, we know Indiana Jones would be by default due to Disney.

Edit: Or not, lmao

It was, then not.

Very interesting stuff about Indiana Jones.

- Indiana Jones was PlayStation, Xbox, and PC. Disney signed with Bethesda.
- After the acquisition, Xbox amended the contract with Disney.
- Now PlayStation is dropped. Xbox/PC only.

 

[graywolf323]

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

The unannounced Quake 2 remastered version is probably coming to all platforms, including PlayStation: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/quake-ii-remastered-has-been-rated-in-korea.1658091/

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Minimal sales? I'm so shocked

 

[Mr Hyde]

I wonder how much damage Redfall did to the Xbox brand and Bethesda/Zenimax in general? The fallout was almost as severe as Cyberpunk 2077. At least it seemed that way on the internet.

 

[nial]

Yeah, like Fallout 4 on PS5 or Quake II Remastered on Switch.

 

[00_Zer0]

Well, we know Indiana Jones would be by default due to Disney.

A little OT, but where is this game? Machine games still doing it? I will get it on PC if it's a good game... just going to skip the upcoming trash movie and enjoy the first 3 movies, and hopefully this game.

 

[dotnotbot]

Fallout 77 and ESO 2

 

[GHG]

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Curious how this comes right after the news of their "let's eliminate Sony" thought experiment e-mails.

 

[Tsaki]

The MMOs will. All others will not.

 

[feynoob]

ES6 needs to be everywhere.
We need the Skyrim meme alive.

 

[DeepEnigma]

A little OT, but where is this game? Machine games still doing it? I will get it on PC if it's a good game... just going to skip the upcoming trash movie and enjoy the first 3 movies, and hopefully this game.

I'm just shocked they did not show anything with the movie being out. Something Sony seems to do flawlessly with timing in the entertainment sectors. Down to the Kraven movie coming out the same month that Spider-Man 2 is, just after the Spiderverse massive success.

 

[lh032]

Phil is panic now, i think this is his response to the FTC.

Future zenimax titles = shitty ones.

 

[feynoob]

Curious how this comes right after the news of their "let's eliminate Sony" thought experiment e-mails.

They want brownie points for being good boys.

 

[BeardGawd]

There goes that talking point.

I've been saying this since forever.

Out of the big 3. MS is the most open to putting games on other platforms.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Curious how this comes right after the news of their "let's eliminate Sony" thought experiment e-mails.

No "journalists" will have the balls to even question them on this.

 

[feynoob]

There goes that talking point.

I've been saying this since forever.

Out of the big 3. MS is the most open to putting games on other platforms.

They are not.
Without the regulators, they would locked that shit down.

 

[Kvally]

Not surprised. They always said on a case by case basis.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Translation: "We haven't shipped any new Zenimax title on PlayStation, but we will pretend that future games will be on PlayStation so the ABK acquisition doesn't get blocked."

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not surprised. They always said on a case by case basis.

 

[GHG]

Out of the big 3. MS is the most open to putting games on other platforms.

Oh perfect. Nobody has any reason to ever get an Xbox then.

 

[RoboFu]

Probably part of their activision plea deal

 

[ZehDon]

I imagine live service games are automatically multiplatform. With that said, Microsoft can be tricky with its wording - it may just mean more Fallout 76 and ESO expansions. I guess we'll see.

 

[SlimySnake]

lol bullshit.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh perfect. Nobody has any reason to ever get an Xbox then.

 

[ComputerBlue]

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Why wouldn’t they release other games elsewhere? Microsoft are after the money and they know they’ll make a shit ton of sales from Sony and Nintendo platforms.

 

[Heisenberg007]

 

[HTK]

To Microsoft...

 

[Gaiff]

Sorry but I need to post this again.

 

[GHG]

Sorry but I need to post this again.

The "Nintendo switch OP, pls nerf" gets me every time.

 

[Elios83]

Sorry but I need to post this again.

Indeed.
The many Zenimax titles are Quake 2 and maybe Indiana Jones for license related contractual obligations.

 

[Vognerful]

Good news

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

They’ll just keep the important ones exclusive

As a thought experiment

 

[midnightAI]

To fully make this line of reasoning work they should have messed up their 2023 showcase.

 

[March Climber]

The only two hard guarantees I can think of when it comes to this is Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online.

Otherwise they would have to spend money on the resources to develop a migration system for both, so it’s easier for them not to do so.

Hopefully from this news we can get Skyrim VR in PSVR2.

 

[PleazureDome]

I've long held the belief that Starfield will eventually come to other platforms once all the DLC is out and the hype subsided. The all but obvious "Game of The Year Edition" will come out and be treated like shovelware (think Skyrim) for other platforms so Microsoft can pick up remaining bags of cash. I can't wait until 2030 when I can finally play this on my Samsung refrigerator.

The real question is how will Fallout 5/Elder Scrolls be treated since they're existing franchises on other platforms that gamers have loved for years. This hasn't been seen yet since we got Redfall and Starfield first (New IP) but to me this is the real test for Microsoft.

 

[DeepEnigma]

To fully they make this line of reasoning work they should have messed up their 2023 showcase.

They're just pulling the "victimhood currency" card that seems to be all the flavor for even a company that is one of the largest in the world.

 

[adamsapple]

Fallout 77 PS5|Series|PC launch day 1.

Let's go!

 

[Thirty7ven]

Deceitful cunts, shame on those who believe the bs.

 

[Banjo64]

A lie.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Yeah, like Fallout 4 on PS5 or Quake II Remastered on Switch.

AKA re-releases of older legacy games. This says nothing about new installments of big franchises, and we already know games like TES VI are not coming to PlayStation as per Phil's own statements, even if that violates the conditions they gave to regulators in determining which games would be made console-exclusive to Xbox.

I've long held the belief that Starfield will eventually come to other platforms once all the DLC is out and the hype subsided. The all but obvious "Game of The Year Edition" will come out and be treated like shovelware (think Skyrim) for other platforms so Microsoft can pick up remaining bags of cash. I can't wait until 2030 when I can finally play this on my Samsung refrigerator.

The real question is how will Fallout 5/Elder Scrolls be treated since they're existing franchises on other platforms that gamers have loved for years. This hasn't been seen yet since we got Redfall and Starfield first (New IP) but to me this is the real test for Microsoft.

You might be right about Starfield, but that still doesn't mean it wasn't made at least a timed console exclusive. An exclusive is still an exclusive, technically speaking.

As for TES VI, we already got our answer: Xbox console exclusive. I'm expecting similar for Fallout 5, maybe even the next DOOM game as well. I'm not saying any of this is wrong; these are Microsoft's IP now and they can do what they want with them. And I don't even hold them cancelling the PS5 version of RedFall against them since that's a game that would've fit the criteria of being made exclusive.

But the hilarity comes in when that same logic's applied to a Starfield, or TES VI, as those technically meet the criteria MS gave to regulators like the EC in cases a Zenimax game would stay multiplatform. Though, since regulators like the EC don't even have an issue with large foreclosure of Zenimax IP on consoles (assuming they don't, since they feel similar about ABK), I guess in the end they give MS a "get out of jail free" card anyhow.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Microsoft to Regulators:

Microsoft to Public:

 

[Doom85]

Microsoft execs right now while trying to think of ANY angle to push to get that ABK deal approved:

 

[graywolf323]

Microsoft to Regulators:

Microsoft to Public:

it’d actually be amusing if in their push to try to play the victim & get the ABK deal through it’s discovered Microsoft had previously lied to investors about the state of things when they were pushing BS at the bottom

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Sorry but I need to post this again.

Sound like the life of most Instagram models. Oh if only...

 

[Vognerful]

Microsoft to Regulators:

Microsoft to Public:

I mean, both statements could be true if you shift the limit of your time frame. Wasn't ps5 selling good but had stock problems at that time? I remember there was a post about this exact article and he was ridiculed back then.

 

[Fabieter]

Where did I hear that lie before.