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[adamsapple]

New content, or shit that already existed on the platform before MS brought them, that cost them absolutely nothing, and they get nothing but pure unadulterated profit for for allowing on ps+?

Is this your argument?

When the content was made is irrelevant, the body of the email was about putting 1P content on rival subscription services. It's not my argument, we can all see the change between then and now.

 

[Gone]

Now find the post from earlier describing Microsoft's option to get out of it.

They don't.
Those remedies are offered to EU and are will be enforceable by them.

 

[Poltz]

Pete Hines not a good start.

 

[FrankWza]

There is no way for me to know, but it certainly would not surprise me if they did.

Doesn't matter. They'd have the power to. Like a country that obtains nuclear weapons. Changes the landscape of everything

 

[tmlDan]

Pete Hines considers "ZeniMax/Bethesda the Pixar of gaming"

wut

 

[jm89]

Bruh what?

 

[Heisenberg007]

Pete Hines not a good start.

Link please?

 

[adamsapple]

"Before the acquisition zenimax had never released a game for one console"

Morrowind.

Oblivion was also a year long exclusive. (by that extension Deathloop/Ghostwire if we add timed exclusives to this discussion).

 

[Topher]

They don't.
Those remedies are offered to EU and are will be enforceable by them.

Who is monitoring compliance? The EU certainly won't be. This is why the CMA does not utilize behavioral remedies very often.

Doesn't matter. They'd have the power to. Like a country that obtains nuclear weapons. Changes the landscape of everything

Common sense, right?

 

[Dick Jones]

Link please?

 

[adamsapple]

Link please?

The meeting has not started - Zoom

cand-uscourts.zoomgov.com

 

[Poltz]

Link please?

Join our Cloud HD Video Meeting

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[adamsapple]

Pete Hines considers "ZeniMax/Bethesda the Pixar of gaming"

wut

Bruh what?

It's a 10 year quote

How Bethesda Softworks hopes to become the Pixar of gaming

With the recent delay of MachineGames' Wolfenstein: The New Order into 2014, publisher Bethesda Softworks won't be releasing any games during the current calendar year. For most companies, that's...

www.polygon.com

 

[Heisenberg007]

Join our Cloud HD Video Meeting

Zoom is the leader in modern enterprise video communications, with an easy, reliable cloud platform for video and audio conferencing, chat, and webinars across mobile, desktop, and room systems. Zoom Rooms is the original software-based conference room solution used around the world in board...

cand-uscourts.zoomgov.com

Can we publicly boo Phil Spencer in the Zoom call?

 

[tmlDan]

It's a 10 year quote

How Bethesda Softworks hopes to become the Pixar of gaming

With the recent delay of MachineGames' Wolfenstein: The New Order into 2014, publisher Bethesda Softworks won't be releasing any games during the current calendar year. For most companies, that's...

www.polygon.com

I don't care, the fact that he even said it is laughable

 

[jm89]

It's a 10 year quote

How Bethesda Softworks hopes to become the Pixar of gaming

With the recent delay of MachineGames' Wolfenstein: The New Order into 2014, publisher Bethesda Softworks won't be releasing any games during the current calendar year. For most companies, that's...

www.polygon.com

I'm laughing even harder now.

 

[solidus12]

Hines is up, uh oh.

I hope Pete Hines keeps that same energy:

 

[Calverz]

"With the exception of roblox, there is nothing else like minecraft?" Is this FTC lawyer for real?

 

[Heisenberg007]

The meeting has not started - Zoom

cand-uscourts.zoomgov.com

I can't join. Asking for a Meeting ID and Password? (I'm a Zoom noob here).

Edit: Nevermind, got in. 1,000 people already.

 

[Gone]

Who is monitoring compliance? The EU certainly won't be. This is why the CMA does not utilize behavioral remedies very often.

So now we're changing the goal post?

A third party would be monitoring the whole thing. It's all mentioned when the EU made the decision.

But that doesn't go along with the general sentiment in this thread (or forum tbh) so let's ignore it.

 

[Poltz]

Redfall AAA line there lmao.

 

[Pelta88]

Live stream

Spanish commentary but since I don't understand Spanish it doesn't interfere with the stream.

 

[adamsapple]

I can't join. Asking for a Meeting ID and Password? (I'm a Zoom noob here).

Try going in from this link in this page

Federal Trade Commission v. Microsoft Corp. et al. | United States District Court, Northern District of California

www.cand.uscourts.gov

edit: direct link

Remote Public: Audio feed via Zoom available


the meeting password should auto fill, you just need to enter a desired username (it doesn't show anywhere, just write anything).

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hines is up, uh oh.

Hope Pete Hines mentions his apology post/letter to gamers that they wanted to make games for their platforms, but it was out of their control now that MS owns them.

 

[tmlDan]

"With the exception of roblox, there is nothing else like minecraft?" Is this FTC lawyer for real?

can you name another as big as them? I can't... maybe Fortnite soon?

 

[Poltz]

 

[adamsapple]

Oh shit Taimoor Hussein being cited in the court lol

 

[Heisenberg007]

Try going in from this link in this page

Federal Trade Commission v. Microsoft Corp. et al. | United States District Court, Northern District of California

www.cand.uscourts.gov

edit: direct link

Remote Public: Audio feed via Zoom available


the meeting password should auto fill, you just need to enter a desired username (it doesn't show anywhere, just write anything).

Max. capacity right now. No entry. Thanks for the link!

 

[Elios83]

It's a Pixar level production

 

[ulantan]

Like being on trial for your gaming sins lmfao

 

[adamsapple]

Max. capacity right now. No entry. Thanks for the link!

Full capacity? all the journos and twitter trolls already on it lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Like being on trial for your gaming sins lmfao

 

[GHG]

I would go back to the Redfall review thread and draw out everyone and everyone who tried to argue it wasn't AAA but I'm not that petty.

We all knew.

 

[FUBARx89]

Halo already runs well on the weak ass Xbox One, getting it running on Switch sounds like it should be an easy enough thing in thery.

Ya right, it could run on it. Easily.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Full capacity? all the journos and twitter trolls already on it lol

 

[Topher]

So now we're changing the goal post?

A third party would be monitoring the whole thing. It's all mentioned when the EU made the decision.

But that doesn't go along with the general sentiment in this thread (or forum tbh) so let's ignore it.

You are the one who brought enforcing the remedy so how is asking who will be monitoring compliance moving the goalposts? And as far as we know, Microsoft must remain in compliant with the terms of the contract........which returns me to my original point.

Ya right, it could run on it. Easily.

Somehow Switch is as powerful as weak as Xbox One now?

 

[solidus12]

Oh shit Taimoor Hussein being cited in the court lol

 

[Heisenberg007]

I hope the FTC and judge hammer on this point. This is extremely important. Canceling Redfall's and Starfield's PS5 versions after acquisition.

 

[Topher]

Oh shit Taimoor Hussein being cited in the court lol

You mean the guy Pete Hines was talking to?

 

[feynoob]

Hate seeing those twitter fanboys.

 

[tmlDan]

this is such a harsh quote, damn.

Reminds me of the get a second job or use the previous gen console if you dont have internet

 

[DeepEnigma]

Never forget,

Bethesda exec Pete Hines apologized to PS5 owners for Starfield's Xbox exclusivity

Starfield's Xbox exclusivity is not much of a surprise. Since purchasing Zenimax for $7.5 billion last September, we knew Microsoft would grab anything that Bethesda had not...

www.techspot.com

"All I can really say is, 'I apologize,' because I'm certain that that's frustrating to folks, but there's not a whole lot I can do about it."

 

[Heisenberg007]

Very interesting stuff about Indiana Jones.

- Indiana Jones was PlayStation, Xbox, and PC. Disney signed with Bethesda.
- After the acquisition, Xbox amended the contract with Disney.
- Now PlayStation is dropped. Xbox/PC only.

 

[dibella360]

HOLY SHIT. Indiana Jones is exclusive!

 

[Poltz]

Indiana Jones is PC and Xbox exclusive.

 

[adamsapple]

Whelp I thought for the longest that Indiana Jones was coming to PS platforms.

Guess not.

 

[nikolino840]

2019 "No f-ing way we'll put games on rival services"
2022 : nearly 10 or more games are on rival services

it's not really a theory when there is demonstrable change in effect, but I understand if you don't want to see it that waway.

In reality a company change ideas business model new ways to work in the ark of 6 months...
I always go to union meetings in the company where I work... In fact, I believe that the company business plans for the coming months serve precisely to adapt to the market in advance... imagine in 4 years how many working models and strategies have been made...

And in these months of crisis, the company has canceled jobs that they entrusted to third parties so that we could work more. So I'm not surprised that on the contracts that Microsoft has made there are clauses of any changes ... The company where I work does it, why not Microsoft?

 

[The Pleasure]

The MS lawyer so eloquently refuted the FTC lawyers point in mere seconds. Microsoft have fulfilled all contract obligations.

Is microsoft like the rich boyfriend to you? You sound like your panties are drenched.

 

[Kilau]

And the Indy franchise couldn't be hotter right now too.

 

[dotnotbot]

2019 "No f-ing way we'll put games on rival services"
2022 : nearly 10 or more games are on rival services

it's not really a theory when there is demonstrable change in effect, but I understand if you don't want to see it that way.

It only demonstrates their plans could change any time