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[feynoob]

I'm not going to name names because they're here and they know we got all the receipts...

But there's a lot of people in this thread who stressed the following "Why would Microsoft take games off Playstation." Like they were some type of good guy? Behind the scenes, as soon as they got the chance that's the first thing they did. Microsoft's PR isn't just hypocritical, it's nefarious and misleading by design.

I have been saying that it's going to be exclusive.
People thought that Disney wont allow MS that.

Now we found out this.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Microsoft's PR isn't just hypocritical, it's nefarious and misleading by design.

 

[Topher]

Matt Booty's "old strategy" seems to have a hell of a lot of life in it.

 

[Banjo64]

This description of why exclusivity is easier for Bethesda from a logistical level is probably not helping Microsoft's case?

 

[GHG]

Pete Hines must be thinking what have I got myself in to, I didn't sign up for this.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Microsoft's PR isn't just hypocritical, it's nefarious and misleading by design.

It's a creative choice.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Matt Booty's "old strategy" seems to have a hell of a lot of life in it.

Man, those Thought Experiments™ sure are something.

 

[Interfectum]

Oh man this is some juicy stuff. You could tell in early post-acquisition interviews with Pete that he was unhappy cancelling PS projects.

 

[Banjo64]

Pete Hines must be thinking what have I got myself in to, I didn't sign up for this.

Poor guy is frantically trying to straddle honesty and not tanking this acquisition for MS.

 

[NickFire]

Disney obviously hates money if they are OK with dropping the platform with the bigger market share.

I think it's more likely that Disney made a calculated business move. By that I mean they probably got a fat check from MS to offset projected losses from not selling the game to as many people.

 

[Kilau]

Man, those Thought Experiments™ sure are something.

I wonder if future accused rappers will use the "thought experiment" defense when their lyrics are referenced to show intent.

When rap lyrics are used against you in court: ‘They silenced me for 21 years’

Rappers have long had their music used as evidence against them in criminal trials. California could soon limit the practice

www.theguardian.com

 

[Varteras]

"We swear! PlayStation games are coming!"

When? Hi-Fi Rush didn't. Redfall didn't. Starfield won't. Indiana Jones won't. Two of those, that we know of, had their PS5 versions canceled right after acquisition. I can assure you, all of those had PS5 versions. You'd have to be a total rube to believe otherwise. Hell, there are indications that ES6 isn't either.

Meanwhile, Bungie's next game, Marathon, was announced as coming to Xbox. Not really creating a compelling case here. Now, your head of Zenimax just said he's unhappy that Zenimax was told to make their games exclusive while ABK "supposedly" will not.

 

[Topher]

Man, those Thought Experiments™ sure are something.

It is almost as if those thoughts are in the implementation phase.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Pete Hines must be thinking what have I got myself in to, I didn't sign up for this.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I wonder if future accused rappers will use the "thought experiment" defense when their lyrics are referenced to show intent.

When rap lyrics are used against you in court: ‘They silenced me for 21 years’

Rappers have long had their music used as evidence against them in criminal trials. California could soon limit the practice

www.theguardian.com

Opened up a whole new can of worms. I know I would, allegedly.

 

[DJ12]

Yes they're both on PS+



Yes.

Which nicely leads me to my own post.

Talk about a backfire lol

I guess they are still contractually obliged to have it on psn+ then.

 

[Topher]

Something, something honour contracts.

 

[Ar¢tos]

It's simple math.
Games reach more gamers when you reduce the number of platforms!
Why can't you people understand this?!?

 

[Banjo64]

Does past success guarantee future success in this industry? No.

Very interesting questions here. (Not sarcastic). Garden path here.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Oh look, indy jones exclusive, Microsoft gonna Microsoft despite all the pr and astroturfing.

Who wouldve thought? Not me

 

[mckmas8808]

WTF is up with this part? Does Hines report to Phil or not? Why not answer this basic question?

 

[DJ12]

Microsoft really went into Bethesda and cancelled every playstation game they could, while allowing Redfall to still be shit.

Incredible tales of mismanagement.

The irony is Sony would've probably told them the game was shit and to fix it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's simple math.
Games reach more gamers when you reduce the number of platforms!
Why can't you people understand this?!?

 

[Varteras]

It's simple math.
Games reach more gamers when you reduce the number of platforms!
Why can't you people understand this?!?

OPTIONS!

 

[DForce]

Changing Indiana Jones to exclusive really shows their true intent that people wanted to deny and that the case-by-case was BS.

 

[solidus12]

Why can’t PlayStation put pressure on Bungie and cancel Xbox version of Marathon?

 

[Thirty7ven]

So MS changed the Indiana Jones deal lolololol

Hey but what about Quake 2 remaster bros????

 

[Dr_Ifto]

The irony is Sony would've probably told them the game was shit and to fix it.

Sony just cancelled that one game from the new studio. They would probably do the same.

 

[Calverz]

So MS changed the Indiana Jones deal lolololol

Hey but what about Quake 2 remaster bros????

Exactly. Enjoy!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why can’t PlayStation put pressure on Bungie and cancel Xbox version of Marathon?

Nah, don't be that petty. Maximize your revenue/profits.

 

[Varteras]

Why can’t PlayStation put pressure on Bungie and cancel Xbox version of Marathon?

That relationship is bound to change over time. Right now, it is absolutely serving Sony's best interest for them to be multiplat

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Why can’t PlayStation put pressure on Bungie and cancel Xbox version of Marathon?

Maybe PlayStation was the real good guy all along.

 

[feynoob]

Man, those Thought Experiments™ sure are something.

It's a parody of this video at this point. They are showing their crimes openly.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Why can’t PlayStation put pressure on Bungie and cancel Xbox version of Marathon?

They can, but they are contractually obligated not to, as part of the purchase agreement. I mean, they can eventually, but it would lead to walkouts and probably lawsuits.

 

[DForce]

Why can’t PlayStation put pressure on Bungie and cancel Xbox version of Marathon?

It will probably help to keep it multiplat if they plan on making future acquisitions.

 

[Topher]

Maybe PlayStation was the real good guy all along.

lol....there ain't no "good guys".

 

[Thirty7ven]

Exactly. Enjoy!

I know the last 15 years have been awful, but it was your choice don’t try and place that evil on the rest of the world k tx bye

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why can’t PlayStation put pressure on Bungie and cancel Xbox version of Marathon?

Maybe PlayStation was the real good guy all along.

"When everybody plays, we all win." Jim Ryan

 

[Moridianae]

Can somebody give me a rundown of recent happenings? I'm at work, but it looks like the FTC is kind of putting Microsoft in a tough position?

 

[adamsapple]

Exactly. Enjoy!

like they said, plenty of zenimax games

 

[DJ12]

So they spent $10 billion in investments with no change in market share! I see why MS decided to up the ante to $70 Billion.

This is unfair, their market share is going down.

70 billion is to try and keep the status quo

 

[xHunter]

"Right now its just on PC and Xbox" - Pete Heins about Starfield and Redfall

 

[Calverz]

like they said, plenty of zenimax games

Yep.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Hines just stated that they sought out exclusivity for their titles.

 

[feynoob]

GHG

 

[Heisenberg007]

Got Pete with this Nintendo question

If he says no, he contradicts himself. If he says yes, it goes against MS promising COD for Nintendo

 

[jm89]

Can somebody give me a rundown of recent happenings? I'm at work, but it looks like the FTC is kind of putting Microsoft in a tough position?

They murdered booty, hines is gasping for dear life now.

 

[Topher]

Hines just stated that they sought out exclusivity for their titles.

Huh? I thought Sony was the one trying to buy up Bethesda exclusivity.

Another myth blown to pieces.

 

[feynoob]

 

[DeepEnigma]

"Right now its just on PC and Xbox" - Pete Heins about Starfield and Redfall

"Keep that one that way." Sony and Nintendo's Seal of Quality Departments