Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Yeah, how dare he do his due diligence and attempt to get answers.
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IGN writer plagiarizes Dead Cells review - IGN issues impassioned statement on journalistic ethics
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Harlock
Member
Danny O´Dwyer is of people who most fast sank in my estimation. What you get with posting this? You are a journalist, Colin is doing the same thing trying to interview the guy. Worse, you worked at Kinda Funny Games too. Try to be more professional.
PedroPanache
Member
Having read the FIFA review, I'd say that was plagirised too. It's a really poor attempt as well. He doesn't cover his tracks and basically falls into the trap of taking the basic structure of the review, copying it verbatim, and within that, just rewriting the original within that framework. So, you get him addressing point after point in the exact same order as the Nintendo Life review; it's not a good look at all. I suspect he wasn't a great writer and addressed this weakness by using other people's work to build his own review templates.
I don't think this dude is ready to really own his mistakes just yet. Therefore, he should avoid talking to anybody for a long while yet. Otherwise, he'll just talk himself into more trouble.
I don't think this dude is ready to really own his mistakes just yet. Therefore, he should avoid talking to anybody for a long while yet. Otherwise, he'll just talk himself into more trouble.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
O’Dwyer has turned into a raging SJW in record time. He’s insufferable now. I dropped all content featuring him. I can’t stand him.Danny O´Dwyer is of people who most fast sank in my estimation. What you get with posting this? You are a journalist, Colin is doing the same thing trying to interview the guy. Worse, you worked at Kinda Funny Games too. Try to be more professional.
JimmyJones
Banned
Suddenly I’m on his side.
Fbh
Member
I know lots of people on this site hate Kotaku, but seriously ? That's your takeaway from this thread?.
A IGN reviewer is caught plagiarising another review, gets fired and releases a half assed non-apology ...... And your first reaction is "those damned guys at Kotaku!!!!!"?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ah, the good ole hypocrisy in games media.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Petrae
Member
Dude is a serial plagiarist. He can’t write his own stuff, so he repurposes the work of others to make it look like he can. I’m not a fan of Schreier’s either, but attacking him instead of taking the L just throws gas canisters onto smoldering embers.
Not smart.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh I agree, I just find it funny how Colin is getting raked over the coals for wanting to interview/talk about him, yet not Jason or Kinda Funny for asking for the same opportunities.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
What does that add to any of this?
Anyone can find anyone annoying, it still does not excuse the mental gymnastics that dogmatic idealists like to peddle.
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Vawn
Banned
Because Jason is doing what people like - kicking someone when they're down and piling on.
Colin, while saying he 100% believes the guy plagiarized, is taking the tactic that there are two sides to every story, and the video Miucin released just added more questions than answers, and would give him a fair opportunity to answer those questions.
There is a huge segment of people who absolutely crave seeing people's lives implode, especially from their own mistakes. If someone is reluctant to pile on, they in turn lump those people in with the original guilty party.
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iconmaster
Banned
Life hack: don’t ask Jason Schreier to research your past misdeeds.
Seems this is as least the third time he’s plagiarized another’s game review.
Seems this is as least the third time he’s plagiarized another’s game review.
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Petrae
Member
Plagiarizer Guy keeps asking for it by challenging Schreier instead of keeping his fucking mouth shut. Had he just let this shit blow over— which it usually does— or publish a sincere apology instead of the Emmy-winning theatrics and insincerity he went with, maybe the book gets closed faster.
I was done with this when IGN fired him. There was nothing more to talk about. He got what he deserved. Then he pries open Pandora’s Box with his “apology” video, and defiantly calls out one of his critics. That invites the “pile on” to continue.
Maybe Colin gets a confession out of him with a more even-handed approach. It could be a fascinating interview, if it happens, but it’s far to late for any kind of redemption and Colin hopefully won’t use him as a pawn in the Gaming Press Wars.
WaterAstro
Member
People send death threats for any reason. The way to deal with death threats is to not acknowledge them. Just tell the police if you have evidence, like tweets or whatever, then get protected behind the scenes.
When the target acknowledges them and that it's an effective scare tactic against the target, those trolls will know it works, and other people who see that and hates the target will join in knowing it works.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I love Danny's work, but his overall attitude on social media is disappointing.Danny O´Dwyer is of people who most fast sank in my estimation. What you get with posting this? You are a journalist, Colin is doing the same thing trying to interview the guy. Worse, you worked at Kinda Funny Games too. Try to be more professional.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Lol ok, those instances I can believe as plagiarism compared to the FIFA one.
muckymucks
Neo Member
Not even Miucin's "response" was original. He stole it from here:
The mock apology even begins with a deep sigh, just like Miucin's.
Mr Hyde
Gold Member
This has grown to some serious deep FUBAR-status for Miucin. The Dead Cells-review was bad enough, caught with your hand in the cookie jar like that, but Fifa 18 and Samus Returns? He can never review again, not write a single word, without being heavily scrutinized and he will be permanently looked down upon by the entire industry for all of eternity. Why trash your career like that?
J-Roderton
Member
The apology isn’t up anymore? Bummer.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Maybe these gaming websites might finally realise that being able to pump out 5 Youtube videos a week is not the be all and end all when it comes to hiring a gaming personality in 2018. Maybe they can start looking at intelligence, experience and writing skills again, like the ol’ days?
I won’t hold my breath.
I won’t hold my breath.
muckymucks
Neo Member
It wasn't an apology since Miucin never apologized, but after the video got 5,000+ dislikes he probably got the message that people weren't buying what he was selling.
ickythingz
Banned
We aren't slipping, it's just no one intelligent reads IGN. If you still go to that corrupt site in this day age for news, you need to rethink your existence.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
A little harsh, lol, but yeah it's pretty much a marketing PR extension at this point with people hoping nepotism will pay off leaping them into the game development industry.
Which reminds me, the most recent girl that left IGN, why was she so (self?) important where she has her own YouTube channel and some strange social media support/videos as to why she left?
I never looked into it, but I also have not heard/seen any outrage or scandal to warrant those types of clickbait videos and strange "yass queen" rallying behind her.
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Vawn
Banned
Alright. Just a tad dramatic there.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
From what I can tell, Marty Sliva left IGN without explanation in the same time frame as her. They were very close with eachother, as in friends. Most of the IGN staff, including her, removed him from their social media.
So in the absence of an explanation, people are speculating that something happened between these two people that got Marty Sliva fired.
That’s what I have ascertained.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I only ask that because I kept seeing it (her "Why I Left IGN") pop up on my Android TV as a recommended video, yet I heard no scandal like the IdPol gaming world is so quick to jump on.
Then I seen a plethora of opportunity suddenly open up for her right away in the game industry and it almost seemed a little convenient. Looking at it from the outside without knowing the story due to the timeline and not hearing any juicy scandal.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Hopefully Filip will learn from this and will be able to land on his feet again.
Sakura Doritos
Member
Man this smuck won’t even be able to work in the small ass downtown San Francisco GameStop at this point.
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lol so true
People get so serious about this stuff, it makes no sense
And have we reached the point of craziness yet where we can identify as other people, maybe that guy does that!
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Honestly, who really gives a fuck?
So he's a sloppy plagiarist, big woop. Its not like he's passing off the writings of Shakespeare as his own work. Its a review, an opinion plus a whole bunch of boiler-plate description about another existing work.
The point for me is not to give this guy a pass, just to try and put this into some sort of perspective. Seeing people use this schlub as the hate-object du jour* says more to me about how the internet is increasingly used as a conduit for petty vindictiveness and judgementalism, than about the state of "games journalism".
*I'm speaking generally, not about this thread.
So he's a sloppy plagiarist, big woop. Its not like he's passing off the writings of Shakespeare as his own work. Its a review, an opinion plus a whole bunch of boiler-plate description about another existing work.
The point for me is not to give this guy a pass, just to try and put this into some sort of perspective. Seeing people use this schlub as the hate-object du jour* says more to me about how the internet is increasingly used as a conduit for petty vindictiveness and judgementalism, than about the state of "games journalism".
*I'm speaking generally, not about this thread.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You actually make some pretty good points in here that I can go in agree with.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I went to school for journalism, but by the time I got my degree I was so disgusted and disenchanted with the games media that I didn't even bother to pursue a career in the field. It's become such a shitty industry, and the piling on Colin despite others also trying to get Filip on their podcasts and not receiving any crap just further showcases how garbage it's become.
There's no integrity and it all seems to be about shoving politics and views down your audiences throat.
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DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Plagiarism is shitty, but the way Colin was attacked for asking to interview him, you'd think he asked to interview Kim Jong Un. The world has flat out gone crazy, man. The guy stole someone's work, he's not a serial murderer. Danny O'Dwyer is a an immature child, and he's petty. Grow up, dude.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I like Danny. I also like Austin W, Patrick K, and Jason S.
They all produce amazing content.
Danny so far has kept his political leanings outside of his content from what I've seen. The others? Not so much.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
That’s a complete falsehood about Danny O’Dwyer. His podcasts are full of his shitty SJW opinions.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Falsehood? I was talking about NoClip. I had no clue he had a podcast. I think that strengthens my point.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Podcasts are part of the content he produces. You said content.
PedroPanache
Member
I enjoy their work, too. I don't really read social media, and don't care if their political leanings spill out into their work all that much. It's all good.
As for Filip, all these people clamoring for an interview with the guy, they'll just use him, get their clicks and spit him back out. I don't think he stands to gain anything good out of it. An apology tour isn't necessary. His best bet is to just go away for a little bit and take the time to process what's happened. I tend to think, or maybe it's more that I hope, that's he's a good guy and he was just out of his depth. A decent YouTuber, but certainly not a particularly good writer, hence his dependency on using other people's reviews as templates for him to write his own. His career in the industry is pretty much over, but if he can go back to YouTube, then perhaps he'll have salvaged something out of this wreckage. A new outrage will spill out onto the streets of social media and the mob will move on.