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IGN: Resident Evil 5 simply can't be remade, at least not to the standards of Capcom's best work. So the answer is not to remake, but to rewrite.
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I thought this was just an inferior RE4 and was awful towards the end. I remember a lot of Capcom's best talent left after RE4 with Shinji Mikami and it really showed in their work in the years immediately after. The original Separate Ways they made for the PS2 version after the talent drain was absolute trash.
I'd much rather they remade Code Veronica.
I'd much rather they remade Code Veronica.
Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
IGN is becoming Kotaku. I've blocked all of IGNs socials and will be doing the same with any IGN related threads here.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Doesn't that make it more in need of a remake though rather than less? The setting was good, and with some work they could tone down the action and make it more of a horror game.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Sure, but that speaks to the premise here, the game needs a major rework, moreso that 4 did. And give me Code Veronica first.
darkangel-212559
Banned
And THAT is why the re direction from survival horror to action in RE4 was such a massive mistake. RE4's design choice was the beginning of the end for the franchise until RE7 came along and saved it. Capcom KNOW they f'd up, RE4 led to RE5 and RE6 nearly destroying their reputation and the IP. They should have stuck with RE 3.5 instead. This is how it was actually meant to be.
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Werewolf Jones
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Croal lays into "racist" Resident Evil 5
Newsweek's games writer, N'Gai Croal, has expressed his concerns over the imagery depicted in the trailer for Capcom's …
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This game did get criticism back in the day.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Does everybody suddenly began to write articles about how RE5 is unremarkable?
I smell something in the air...
Resident Evil 5 Is Too Racist For A Remake
Capcom will need to approach this one very differently.www.thegamer.com
It's the games 15th anniversary this march. That's why.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
What’s the argument for not remastering RE5? These same issues were at the time of release (Kony 2012) and those didn’t stop it from releasing.
Eiknarf
Banned
So wait,
IGN is afraid that it would be racist if black people were zombies in a Resident Evil game?
So, "Lets treat everybody the same. And by 'the same', we mean, different. Let's treat 'this' group of people with kid gloves"
GymWolf
Member
GymWolf
Member
Fighting ghosts was not the answer.
It was a nice concept demo, but re is not about fucking ghosts and small dolls, it's about fighting mutated creatures and zombies.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
We need an Onimusha or Dino Crisis remake more.
Phase
Member
It's evident there are a lot of racists working in game dev and game "journalism." Really sad to see, but I'm glad they're all deciding to out themselves.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So the answer is one of two things?
- We can't have games set in Africa
- It's okay to gun down a wave of white people that turn into monsters......but not black people that turn into monsters?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why is it okay to erase Africa off the map? I liked N'gai back in the day, but it feels weird that we aren't allowed to have any games set in Africa is the main character is white.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Only complete rework and rewrite from the ground up can save this circus and trash. Same goes for 6.
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Eiknarf
Banned
Holy shit! FACTS!
This might be the best thing I read in a while~!
proandrad
Member
Wait, so are they going to completely ignore that RE4 had Spanish people look like religious wackos, living in primitive villages, with little to no modern technology. Video game outlets need to get back to hiring video game nerds and stop hiring people that just failed to get a job at an actual news outlet. Video games aren’t that deep.
Reaseru
Member
If you can't shoot black enemies, how the heck can Chris survive killing enemies in a setting where black are 90% of its inhabitants? Unless you set RE in a Apartheid era South Africa where you can kill mostly Boers..., or set it in the Magrebe region.
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Muffdraul
Member
I voted "Don't touch it" assuming that means don't even remake it. I always assumed the 2 and 3 remakes were basically to modernize them into the game play style of 4/5/6, but then 4 could use a remake too just to bring the weapon aiming mechanics up to date. OG RE4 was one of my favorite games in its day, I played it from start to finish god only knows how many times on GCN and Wii. Then after not playing it for a few years, I tried to play the PS4 remaster and I couldn't do it.
But this is not the case with RE5, from what I can remember. The crosshairs was locked to the center of the screen in the original game, right? That's literally all I give a shit about. There's also the overriding matter that I just don't give a damn about RE5 in general to begin with. I played through it twice when it came out. I played it solo. It felt like a slap in the face a lot of the time. I just didn't think it was a great game by any measure and personally I don't see any value in remaking it. If I had my way, the next REMake would be RE1, to bring it in line with RE2make and RE3make. DO IT
But this is not the case with RE5, from what I can remember. The crosshairs was locked to the center of the screen in the original game, right? That's literally all I give a shit about. There's also the overriding matter that I just don't give a damn about RE5 in general to begin with. I played through it twice when it came out. I played it solo. It felt like a slap in the face a lot of the time. I just didn't think it was a great game by any measure and personally I don't see any value in remaking it. If I had my way, the next REMake would be RE1, to bring it in line with RE2make and RE3make. DO IT
McGILLAZ
Member
Maybe they should make an IGN edition, Ala a Director's Cut. it might have 5 minutes of gameplay, but perhaps it will satisfy the masses. Capcom can see how well it will sell compared to the (non) neutered version and act accordingly.
angrod14
Member
It’s the white vs. black dichotomy. Spaniards are still white.Somehow you can release this:
And we all understand that it's not supposed to be a representation of current Spain and their culture, that these aren't supposed to be "average Spanish people" and this isn't supposed to be the city center of Madrid or Barcelona.
But we can't do that with Africa?
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
RE5 doesn't have a crosshair unless you play on pc with a mouse.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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bumpkin
Member
RE5 was awesome! I played through it coop dozens of times with my buddy and several times solo. I wouldn’t mind a remake if it’s shown the same love and care as 2, 3 and 4 got.
Why didn’t anyone in the media have a conniption about the Asian enemies in China in Chris’ RE6 campaign?
The whole controversy was stupid when the game came out and it’s even more dumb now. It’s a work of fiction, people need to get over it and stop trying to revise everything that might offend somebody (who are just looking for a fight to pick).
And unironically, the same people who take exception to Chris being white and gunning down black enemies in a country where the population is 80% black wouldn’t bat an eye if the races were reversed.Somehow you can release this:
And we all understand that it's not supposed to be a representation of current Spain and their culture, that these aren't supposed to be "average Spanish people" and this isn't supposed to be the city center of Madrid or Barcelona.
But we can't do that with Africa?
Why didn’t anyone in the media have a conniption about the Asian enemies in China in Chris’ RE6 campaign?
The whole controversy was stupid when the game came out and it’s even more dumb now. It’s a work of fiction, people need to get over it and stop trying to revise everything that might offend somebody (who are just looking for a fight to pick).
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Muffdraul
Member
Then the laser pointer or whatever. In OG RE4 it was free floating all over the screen. In RE5 it was locked to center.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
It wasn't locked, it moved as well.
darkangel-212559
Banned
RE7 had a creepy mutant baby monster and no one complained. I would argue RE is not about SAW either yet it had a SAW section too. Forget about the enemies. It's about the atmosphere and game play, which that concept demo had in true classic RE abundance.
GymWolf
Member
Yeah and i don't consider re7 and 8 actual resident evil games (first person also being a factor), more like a deviation from the classic concept.
Maybe they are not important to you, but seeing mutations and creatures is one of the thing i like about the re series, ghost just don't feel right in a saga that has always been about genetic mutations.
Matter of taste i guess.
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DirtyBast8rd
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Fuck IGN. Glad I get gaming news via GAF so I don't give those moron sites any unnecessary clicks.
Disco Dave
Member
Someone tag Sweetbaby Inc. Can't think of a better team to rewrite this.
You see the pattern? you gradually not giving a shit about these people, RE story is built on illusion, you started caring about others but in reality, you only care about yourself and how to get escape from all this mess, with adding thrilling effects here and there, that's unfair, selfish, this is so stupid, like 5th grade level of stupidity, instead of caring about civilians, you care about upgrading your weapons, this is so sophisticated, so specific, so distracting from your real mission.
It is an unnamed rural villain in Spain, so they would be Spanish.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I just think it's stupid that shooting black enemies is supposed to be viewed as bad. We did it in GTA: San Andreas
Arachnid
Member
Am I missing something? You didn't contradict him at all. Are you agreeing?
They are European. Not Latin.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
This is actually pretty insightful, because I don't remember the media showing N'Gai's subsequent interviews or seeing the answer from Jun about the grass skirt zombies. Then again, I didn't care about the controversy at the time and thought it was stupid; when my friend and I played it together back at release that stuff was the last thing on our mind, we were just having a lot of fun (and increasingly cracking jokes at some choices throughout especially the final boss fight).
The final game definitely deviated a good bit from the early trailers, which nailed the Black Hawk Down vibes better. The trailers also did more with the light/dark contrasts for horror than the final game managed. I'd be down for a remake that better captured the mood of the pre-final footage (and maybe made the final boss fight less comically stupid).
“perhaps one with a black protagonist”
These motherfuckers casually pretending my favorite RE girl doesn’t exist…
Bad enough with basic blasphemers here who have suggested removing her from the game, I don’t need full on articles saying even more ignorant shit.
Either they've never played the game (very likely), or they're one of those "she's not "coded" black enough" types. I really hate Steven Universe and shows like that for pushing the "coded" crap.
Basically, that editor's probably thinking Sheva needs to have a giant afro, be somewhat overweight, and look less like Alicia Keys & more like Leslie Jones.
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No are not missing anything. That is exactly what I was doing. Hence why I said the setting was in Spain and that the enemies are Spanish. Spanish != Latin
Reaseru
Member
Well, that's common sense...except for IGN and whatever cult they belong.
tommycronin
Banned
Imagine calling yourself a videogame journalist in 2024. I remember them adding in whyte zombies after the initial reveal in trailers so you could also kill whyte people but that was never gonna be enough.
This is the guy crying racism btw.
This is the guy crying racism btw.
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
They need to just make the AI invincible. It's no fun having to babysit someone who's supposed to be equally as powerful as the protagonist.
RE5 is great when you make Sheva invincible but don't give her any equipment and just use her as a crank turning assistant.
RE5 is great when you make Sheva invincible but don't give her any equipment and just use her as a crank turning assistant.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
See. This is EXACTLY why I do not want an RE5 Remake. I knew this was going to happen. Shooting American/European/etc zombies is fine, but not African zombies? I rather see them work on RE9 or something else. I feel this will probably be an unfaithful, neutered mess to the original if these weirdos get their way.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Wth is whyte