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News Hardware [Hardware Busters] The New PS5 is Actually Better

ethomaz

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Holy shit dude, you either USE ALL YOUR OWN RESULTS or NOTHING, there are so many factors that can throw these numbers off with setup and other variables like ambient temperatures of the room etc. You can't guarantee any numbers if you're not taking both sets of data yourself.

That table shows dick squat.



Can't help your kind at all, it's a lost cause.

Again, if the sources are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, especially in this age of youtube, there is no STANARDARIZED temperature taking procedure that these 2 clickbaiters are following. Even different devices might have different calibrations of temperature readings... I don't think you understand anything about the scientific method. But this isn't anything scientific, this is just a stupid pissing match and people clinging to anything looking positive, nothing objective here.
Poor man... you just don't want to accept.
Why being so attached to FUD created to gain clicks?

 
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Poor man... you just don't want to accept.
Why being so attached to FUD created to gain clicks?

Wow, you people are truly sick.

True Sony Obsessive Jingos showing their colors.

You don't care that the results are possibly inaccurate due to the way they're obtained. You're too caught up in a "win" to realize that objectively that table shown isn't valid in any light, it's just a waste of space due to the testing methodology.

Objectively the results are worthless. I guess subjectively they're EVERYTHING!

I would say the same thing about MS or Nintendo.
 
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Wow, you people are truly sick.

True Sony Obsessive Jingos showing their colors.

You don't care that the results are possibly inaccurate due to the way they're obtained.

Objectively the results are worthless. I guess subjectively they're EVERYTHING!

I would say the same thing about MS or Nintendo.
Seems like you must be a fanboy if you want them to test both under the same conditions.
 
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Like I said, why you want him to test the old PS5 again for?
To prove what?

It's already been proven the new model PS5 cooling isn't worst.

The guy already said he did all he can, let him be. It's like beating a dead horse now with you guys being in denial.
Again, what are you on about?
 
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I think we need a house analogy to @MrFunSocks and a short novel about swirling winds to thicc_girls_are_teh_best thicc_girls_are_teh_best so they understand how wrong they were.
Hey like I said, if I was wrong on this I'd be the first to owe up to it and that's what I'm gonna do here. They measured lower memory operating temps, their method is sound, I'm cool with that.

I'm still waiting for Digital Foundry and Gamers Nexus tests for absolute closure but I'm a man of my word. I might have potentially been wrong to worry on operational longevity for certain components, if these new results are anything to go by and can be backed up by other sources with their tests.

If and when those sources can also confirm, I'll come and say I was flat-out wrong on this. But for now, you have my curiosity.
 

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You also need to put the new cooler into older version console to rule out the posibility of software/bios tweaks. New version might be running lower voltage.

"Newer yields of the SoC might be better, Sony is CHEATING! Sony is deceiving consumers pretending that the heatsink is better!They can't get away with this!"

Is Microsoft the only one allowed to "improve the tools" to make the console better?
This attitude that the PS5 and Sony must be unmasked and be revealed that it's actually not that good needs to die already.
 
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sircaw

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Hey like I said, if I was wrong on this I'd be the first to owe up to it and that's what I'm gonna do here. They measured lower memory operating temps, their method is sound, I'm cool with that.

I'm still waiting for Digital Foundry and Gamers Nexus tests for absolute closure but I'm a man of my word. I might have potentially been wrong to worry on operational longevity for certain components, if these new results are anything to go by and can be backed up by other sources with their tests.

If and when those sources can also confirm, I'll come and say I was flat-out wrong on this. But for now, you have my curiosity.
if you are wrong, i want you to change your avatar to a female betta and ask the mods to add "Sircaw's Bitch" under your image in caps.

Then i want you to go down on your fins and, this is getting a bit out of control now.

Peace
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if you are wrong, i want you to change your avatar to a female betta and ask the mods to add "Sircaw's Bitch" under your image in caps.

Then i want you to go down on your fins and, this is getting a bit out of control now.

Peace
xxx

Oh jeez I don't think thicc_girls_are_teh_best thicc_girls_are_teh_best deserves that to be honest. I've seen much worse from others IMO.

:messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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So let me get this straight. All you are fine with comparing results of 2 different tests with 2 different games and 2 different test set ups? I couldn't give a shit about the results, I just want factual results.
 

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What did they change with the testing, I'm confused?

They tested both versions right?

Like for like testing on both? I haven't watched the videos just read the comments.
 
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"Newer yields of the SoC might be better, Sony is CHEATING! Sony is deceiving consumers pretending that the heatsink is better!They can't get away with this!"

Is Microsoft the only one allowed to "improve the tools" to make the console better?
This attitude that the PS5 and Sony must be unmasked and be revealed that it's actually not that good needs to die already.
Look, if GN, DF, confirm these findings and claim that new cooler makes less noise, then I'm happily selling my ps5 and getting a new model.
 
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What did they change with the testing, I'm confused?

They tested both versions right?

Like for like testing on both? I haven't watched the videos just read the comments.
They put sensors in much better places and only tested the new. Compared results with GN results using a totally different testing method and game.
 
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Let's see how the discourse changes now. :messenger_unamused:

wow holy shit. Thats an insane decrease in temps considering there was no silicon revision. Amazing stuff from Sony Engineers. Austin Evans needs to issue a correction. This IS better than the original PS.

Glad he compared it to the Gamer nexus results and used the same probe placements. I feel much better about these tests. Though he should used the same astro bot test just to be sure.

The RAM results give me pause though. Sony did NOT include any thermal padding on the ram chips so why are they so low in temps? Was the old design not making sufficient contact with the heatspreader?
 

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What did they change with the testing, I'm confused?

They tested both versions right?

Like for like testing on both? I haven't watched the videos just read the comments.
They added more sensors. In between the heatsink and the main SOC. They basically placed the probes in the same exact spot Gamer Nexus did all those months ago. And found better temps.
 
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Why is it wrong to be asking question about methodology not in-line with the GN's though?

I don't mind what Igor did, much better than what he did on the 1st place - but his method is indeed different from GN's.

For starters, he used high quality thermal paste & plastered all over the VRAM. Not sure if he "removed" the existing thermal putty - on some places there are both.

Please don't tell me that thermal paste don't affect cooling capacity - then why in the world would PS5 need good thermal medium like liquid metal?
Wish he didn't use such and stayed as stock as possible to get rid of any oversight or difference.

And that's why, I can't really say anything in comparison to GN, and he should have used same method to test the OLD PS5 to PROVE that new one is better.

APU side, I'm pretty content with the result - but would have loved if he used some other method to stick the probe - but that doesn't explain VRAM.
VRAM's primary heat-dispensing method is via backplate. They are connected directly to it. With better thermal paste, could it be dissipating the heat better?

If you are trying to prove something - you gotta do all the way. I just hope Igor does Old PS5 the same test and get this over with.
 
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Yeah, well pretty much all songs they’ve made can be considered ”among the best”, so I’ll give you that.

I would probably’ve said the same thing about any one song on that album and Lateralus
I enjoy most on the album, but Jimmy, Third eye, pushit and hooker with a penis are all better... To me
 
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if you are wrong, i want you to change your avatar to a female betta and ask the mods to add "Sircaw's Bitch" under your image in caps.

Then i want you to go down on your fins and, this is getting a bit out of control now.

Peace
xxx

How the hell am I gonna stomach looking at that without throwing up? I don't even really like fish!

Y'all can probably come up with a better temp tag than that tbh, I'd take a temp tag bet if it's definitely proven I was wrong.
 
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sircaw

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How the hell am I gonna stomach looking at that without throwing up? I don't even really like fish!

Y'all can probably come up with a better temp tag than that tbh, I'd take a temp tag bet if it's definitely proven I was wrong.
You hear that ladies and gents, this fish is about to get Serviced.

I hope you like Roe, and none of that crappy Russian posh stuff i might add.

Thames special here. :messenger_grimmacing_
 

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Look, if GN, DF, confirm these findings and claim that new cooler makes less noise, then I'm happily selling my ps5 and getting a new model.

The problem was NEVER who had done the "testing", the problem was always the test itself.
Gamer Nexus will use the same methodology, will make the same tests, with the same equipment (DF gave a console to GN to do the test).

So people still waiting for an "authority" of "their trust", DEAL WITH IT!
You guys have NOTHING, fucking nothing to attack that price of shit toy! Even if it was in fact hotter the difference would be negligible in practice.


wow holy shit. Thats an insane decrease in temps considering there was no silicon revision. Amazing stuff from Sony Engineers. Austin Evans needs to issue a correction. This IS better than the original PS.

Glad he compared it to the Gamer nexus results and used the same probe placements. I feel much better about these tests. Though he should used the same astro bot test just to be sure.

The RAM results give me pause though. Sony did NOT include any thermal padding on the ram chips so why are they so low in temps? Was the old design not making sufficient contact with the heatspreader?

Just a reminder that Gamer Nexus had tested the version 1.0 and this new unit is the version 1.2.
 
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Just finished watching the video and this is my opinion.

I liked how he took the criticism seriously and improved his testing to give us much better results.

With that said I believe he debunked any worries that the new PS5 might become a fire hazard or that it will suffer from thermal throttling. So for me there isn't anything that I have to worry about with the new model.

However some additional tests from Gamers Nexus and Digital Foundry would be nice to see. Just in case Hardware Busters manipulated the results or have faulty testing equipment.
 
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I just saw some comments from them on YouTube and they are listening to the criticism on the new video. Definitely a chance that they will release another video on this.

Honestly I'm pretty impressed with how the channel is interacting with the people that criticize them.

Edit: And before anyone freaks out over what I said I'm just talking about Hardware Busters. I'm not making a reference to anyone else.
 
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So people still waiting for an "authority" of "their trust", DEAL WITH IT!
You guys have NOTHING, fucking nothing to attack that price of shit toy! Even if it was in fact hotter the difference would be negligible in practice.

Damn calm TF down :LOL: . Scientific theories don't become commonly accepted truths unless there's sufficient peer-review, that's basically the mentality we're taking here. It's got absolutely nothing to do with personally attacking the console, can assure you of that.
 
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