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GOG News and Updates 2011
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Minsc
Gold Member
Carm said:
If dungeon Keeper is DOS which I hear it is, DOSBox can resize windows in dozens of different ways, you can basically do anything you'd like, I tend to use the GUIs to set it all up though.
Grayman said:
A year ago, things were a mess. It was a disaster, you'd have to go through pages, and pages full of threads to find if there was any info. Now, indeed it is nearly flawlessly organized, all setup/mod info stickied to the top of each game's forum. Such an improvement. New releases probably need a week or two or three to get sorted out though.
SturokBGD
Member
You can remap the keys in UU using the DOSBox keymapper (CTRL+F1) to set it to regular WASD controls if you want. UU is actually odd though in that it uses a system that's somewhat close to the WASD standard that we know today... A and D are turn keys and Z and C are strafe, W is run, S is walk, and X is step backwards. I think they used this control scheme right up until Thief 2? Maybe System Shock 2? I forget. Anyway, modern WASD is actually LGS-style control for dummies. :-D
Either way, it can be entirely controlled by the mouse.
It's obviously very dated but the UU games are the missing link between "grid-based" first person RPGs like Dungeon Master and Might & Magic and FPS/RPG hybrids like System Shock and Deus Ex. The pack is totally worth $5.99 just because these games (to some of us) are an important little piece of history. Thankfully, they're actually still really good games.
Warren fucking Spector!
Random but common fact: Arkane Studio's Arx Fatalis (which is also on GOG) was originally pitched to EA as Ultima Underworld III but was rejected and became Arx Fatalis instead. It's also a great game.
Either way, it can be entirely controlled by the mouse.
It's obviously very dated but the UU games are the missing link between "grid-based" first person RPGs like Dungeon Master and Might & Magic and FPS/RPG hybrids like System Shock and Deus Ex. The pack is totally worth $5.99 just because these games (to some of us) are an important little piece of history. Thankfully, they're actually still really good games.
Warren fucking Spector!
Random but common fact: Arkane Studio's Arx Fatalis (which is also on GOG) was originally pitched to EA as Ultima Underworld III but was rejected and became Arx Fatalis instead. It's also a great game.
Sinatar said:
I had a nagging feeling there *were* keyboard controls, but I guess they're not remappable; just grabbed the reference card, and it looks like I'm correct:
I've no idea what exactly "Easy Move" means (90 degree turns, maybe?). And, of course, there's still no mouse turn, which would be a huge bonus. But, well, at least there's something to reduce the faffing with movement.
theinfinityissue
Member
Dungeon Keeper? Dungeon Keeper?
The tears are coming.
The tears are coming.
reptilescorpio
Member
This so very much. They will be an important part of gaming history for a long time. Loved both games and love GOG for giving me the chance to buy them again!stuminus3 said:
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Ooh, and Future Cop.Grayman said:
Oh shit, I just realised that EA published Fire Fight. I think it was one of those stuck-in-the-ether Windows 95 games that are impossible to get running, but if they can find a way to port it... holy fuck.
Actually, holy missing links Batman! The dev team Chaos Works (that worked on Fire Fight) is actually consisted of one of the guys from CD Projekt RED (amongst others). With EA on board, Epic already releasing stuff on GOG and CD Projekt having some kind of history with Fire Fight... we might actually see it on there!
I actually have the original disks (there were two in the one box... for vs. play) but it won't run on Windows 7
Edit: Not enough actuallys, actually.
Actually, holy missing links Batman! The dev team Chaos Works (that worked on Fire Fight) is actually consisted of one of the guys from CD Projekt RED (amongst others). With EA on board, Epic already releasing stuff on GOG and CD Projekt having some kind of history with Fire Fight... we might actually see it on there!
I actually have the original disks (there were two in the one box... for vs. play) but it won't run on Windows 7
Edit: Not enough actuallys, actually.
MomoPufflet
Member
Actually Fire Fight actually looks kind of interesting.
actually
Minsc
Gold Member
Shaneus said:Oh shit, I just realised that EA published Fire Fight. I think it was one of those stuck-in-the-ether Windows 95 games that are impossible to get running, but if they can find a way to port it... holy fuck.
Actually, holy missing links Batman! The dev team Chaos Works (that worked on Fire Fight) is actually consisted of one of the guys from CD Projekt RED (amongst others). With EA on board, Epic already releasing stuff on GOG and CD Projekt having some kind of history with Fire Fight... we might actually see it on there!
I actually have the original disks (there were two in the one box... for vs. play) but it won't run on Windows 7
Edit: Not enough actuallys, actually.
It runs fine for me (Win 7 64-bit), I just downloaded the 1.2 demo and played it, I remembered playing the demo way back, it was a weird game, never got too far
PistolPete
Member
Awesome, EA on GOG means there's a potential for a Nox re-release. I would buy 10 copies of that.
It's crap though that EA is still holding onto system shock and syndicate. If it's easy money, which a release of either of those would be, what's the delay?
It's crap though that EA is still holding onto system shock and syndicate. If it's easy money, which a release of either of those would be, what's the delay?
MomoPufflet
Member
So, the rights to the "game" System Shock 2 aren't separate from using the "name/setting" of System Shock for a new game? When you get the rights to make a brand new game in a franchise you get the rights to previous games too? That seems weird, but I guess copyright laws are weird.
Or maybe I am not getting it (probably this).
Or maybe I am not getting it (probably this).
PistolPete
Member
Minsc said:
But wouldn't releasing the original syndicate, or the original system shock 1/2 just generate more interest, or at least help the marketing moneyhats confirm that the franchise still has potential?
It's the same story with the x-wing series. They own something they can sell again. There's no risk. There's no worry that the dev costs wont be recouped. Its pure profit.
Confusion Illusion
Banned
PistolPete said:
That would be nice. I am missing my 3rd Nox disc
PistolPete said:
In the case of System Shock, the ball might be out of EA's court now:
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/713030/the-lost-history-of-system-shock
So, yeah. Looks like GoG have done half the battle. It depends on whether Meadowbrook are also sitting on the rerelease rights; that much isn't clear.
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Deleted member 10571
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Ultima VII to IX? Hell yes.
Did Ultima 9 ever get patched enough to be playable?
8's one of only three Ultimas I've completed (1 and 4 are the other two. And Underworld 2 if we count that). I don't think it was all that bad, but it was definitely missing something, and the jumping puzzles were an abysmal idea. Still, Pagan just didn't have anything like the charm of Britannia.
I've mentioned earlier that it'd be great to get the Worlds of Ultima titles on the service, and that's just the sort of thing GoG would delight in unpicking from the annals of history.
8's one of only three Ultimas I've completed (1 and 4 are the other two. And Underworld 2 if we count that). I don't think it was all that bad, but it was definitely missing something, and the jumping puzzles were an abysmal idea. Still, Pagan just didn't have anything like the charm of Britannia.
I've mentioned earlier that it'd be great to get the Worlds of Ultima titles on the service, and that's just the sort of thing GoG would delight in unpicking from the annals of history.
Minsc
Gold Member
HK-47 said:
I was expecting to hear worse actually, now I can take some comfort again in enjoying Privateer 2. As long as I stay oblivious to just how bad UIX is
Kifimbo said:
Shadow Magic is the most full-featured, and got most of the mod support. It's the one that people usually say is the next best thing since Master of Magic, so now's the time to pick it up if you don't own it yet. I only played AoW II myself, which I enjoyed a lot. They have separate campaigns, so if you really like Shadow Magic you might want to put if off and play AoW II's campaign first. Dunno about the original.
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Deleted member 10571
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I want VII for the actual game, VIII because a friend of mine had it and never let me play and IX just because I bought it and it didn't run on my machine, but I still happen to like it until the first dungeon (when it became pretty much unplayable for my rig).HK-47 said:
Don't hate me
molekiller
Banned
Can't wait for Alpha Centauri...
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
GOG is gonna make me an alcoholic if they keep teasing Lucasarts as a possiblity and then go with something else.
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Deleted member 47027
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A shame! Ultima 6 is my favorite. Weird, I know! But still, I will buy a lot of the others.
I lent my discs to a "friend" years ago, never seen them again.DigitalSoul said:That would be nice. I am missing my 3rd Nox disc
Sigh, the box still sits silently under my pc judging me.
However the stuff that is getting added is great news.
It would be great if they included Deeper Dungeons because I don't own it.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
EA Sweet! Come on GOG don't fail me now!
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
I still have my Crusader discs somewhere... but I am double dipping the shit out them when they come out.
Of All Trades
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So why do you think U9 is bad? What reasons have you heard, since you've never played it?Minsc said:I was expecting to hear worse actually, now I can take some comfort again in enjoying Privateer 2. As long as I stay oblivious to just how bad UIX is
You only need Shadow Magic. 1 isn't as good as 2 and 2 is basically made irrelevant by Shadow Magic.
Depends on the definition of playable. I was able to play it to about the 90% point in the game but a triggered event wouldn't go off and I couldn't finish it. I watched the ending somehow.
But by and large it's playable. I'd bet a lot of people here would find it more playable than U6 or even U7 since it's basically an early version of Gothic 2 minus G2's mouse jank.
charlequin
Banned
MomoPufflet said:
The copyright to a work as a whole, to the constituent parts thereof, and to the source work from which the work is adapted by license, as well as the trademarks for the work's title, characters, and unique trade dress can all be held by different people or companies, plus the individual rights to any of the above can be held by multiple people or companies at once.
In this particular case, I think the issue is that EA owns the System Shock name and holds the license to the franchise as a whole and to important elements thereof (SHODAN, etc.) but Looking Glass retained some copyright for the game code and/or assets -- which basically means EA can develop new SS games without a problem, but need to chase down another licenseholder to reissue the old games.