The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
AFAIK some physical games requires patches to run, or a specific OS of your console.
If you can't get Internet, and can't get patch, then you are fucked either way.
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Due to expiring car and track licences, Project CARS 2 will be delisted on September 21st and Project CARS on October 3rd
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If you can't get Internet, and can't get patch, then you are fucked either way.
DonJorginho
Banned
I literally just bought the same game for £6... Why you paid so much bro?
brian0057
Banned
It's still a digital game with extra steps.
I can still play my copies of Metroid Prime 1 and 2, and there's nothing Nintendo can do about it.
Again, old game good, new game bad.
lostinblue
Banned
yes, That was Forza 7. and Forza Horizon 4 will soon follow.
The thing is that they negotiate a one time payment or one 4 year timed authorization to use said property in their game, they should instead pay a fee for each game sold, review the fee according to how many people are still playing the game... or something.
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MikeM
Member
Shit where?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FEAR 2 is on sale for $4.99 on Xbox, FEAR 3 is currently not on sale right now but it also frequently goes on sale.
Right now its $19.99
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MikeM
Member
I searched before and could not find it. I thought the license expired. Sadface
Skifi28
Member
Wait, Forza 7 was delisted already? Before the release of the next game? That's Brutal, it feels like they're throwing away potential sales. A steam release would have been big, I always had issues with the game on the Windows store.
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Guilty_AI
Member
Many old games that ran directly from disk without internet don't run anymore due to disk protection measures. To play them on modern systems you need patches and cracks.
And to play old console games you need to get your hands on said console which often isn't really simple, not to mention you can't back up these games to avoid disk deterioration issues since consoles usually block such copies from running (DRM).
On the other hand i can back up digital GOG copies of my games however many times i want and play them even after GOG or the game developer are long gone, and i won't have to deal with any sort of protection blocking my game.
As i said in another post, this shouldn't be a "physical vs digital" issue, its a "DRM vs no-DRM" one. What you call "digital game with extra steps" on a disk is DRM.
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DonJorginho
Banned
Maybe it's a US thing bro but here in the UK our chain store CEX sells them at £6 a piece and I have seen plenty local listings on Ebay and from stores on Ebay going for £8-12
lostinblue
Banned
It was indeed. September 2021. It was released in 2017 so it's just the way the cookie crumbles. 4 years and bust.
They just didn't assume they would do a 5 year hiatus, I guess. The way they do contracts should be revised. I'd love a Forza 4 and Gran Turismo 2 re-release myself.
At least Microsoft games can still be played if you purchased them digitally or own the discs, I suspect that won't be the case with GT7 with the need to authenticate to get in. What's the use of maintaining that working once they can't sell the game anymore and probably released a successor? Forza 6 was better than Forza 7 in my book, good thing I could stay behind.
UK has it good. CEX always has good prices. I used to buy lots of games when in London.
Where I live, CEX exists but prices are crap, overpriced.
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AndrewRyan
Member
PC2 is still my favorite sim racer on PCVR and also on steamdeck. Just wish it was easier to rewind races in single player mode. Also wish I had bought Need for Speed: Shift when it was available.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Good thing we still can without disc and internet.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Why are there even times licenses? It would have made more sense to arrange a contract where you pay the license fee and that is it. As long as it's on sale then all is good.
lostinblue
Banned
surely because one time payment is always better. companies get more money upfront but they get less money in the long run, specially if the game is more successful than it's worst projections.
brian0057
Banned
You still own it physically if you have stored on your local storage.
Unless the devs break into your house and steal your drives, there's nothing they can do about it.
I honestly wanna know why people are so eager to throw their property rights straight into an incinerator.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Like who?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Picked it up on xbox for 4.99 not sure why when I own it on pc 
Guilty_AI
Member
I think its just arguing semantics at this point. You're calling anything that can be stored and run locally without internet "physical", while others call it "DRM-free".
Lets just agree that no internet requirements to run = good, internet requirements to run = bad
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MikeM
Member
Might be. I couldn’t find it anywhere near that in Canada. Only found my copy at a pawn shop.
brian0057
Banned
Now that's something on which we can agree.
The reason I make the distinction between DRM and physical is that, unless you have a copy stored locally (physically in your hardware) or pirated, a digital game without DRM is not better than a digital game with DRM. The devs can, at any point and without your consent, take it down, change it, or remove it entirely.
A physical copy, DRM or not, doesnt have that problem. DRM can be cracked and there's nothing the devs can do about it.
You can't crack a digital copy back into completion (or into existence, if it was removed).
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Thing about PC gaming is you can also find great deals elsewhere. GreenManGaming is offering 93% discount for a Steam Key right now for PC2
Fahdis
Member
Thank you. Bought.
Stuart360
Member
Get the Deluxe version, it has all the dlc.
R6Rider
Gold Member
I was simply pointing out that I'm surprised it's that high of a price on Steam still.
Fahdis
Member
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Well yeah, you bought the games before they were taken off shelves. Nintendo not selling a game anymore isn't that much different from delisting
This is a bummer, but now I have a reason to buy these games before they go away forever
Guilty_AI
Member
I guess its a good point. Its actually a good reason to buy stuff on GOG even if the Steam version is technically DRM-free, since GOG lets you block or revert back up to 5 previous updates.
lostinblue
Banned
What about the turd one? third I mean.
R6Rider
Gold Member
It's 60 as well.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
so what's your issue? if you want the game there has been plenty of time to buy it, if you own the game it will still play and you will still be able to redownlod it from the store. physical copies will stop being made to
0neAnd0nly
Member
Maybe.
But people in the 90s also probably never though “Circuit City” would cease to exist, people in the 80s with Sears, or who would have guessed Activision sells to MS a year ago?
Things change. Fast, relatively speaking.
Skifi28
Member
The opposite. Digital is the only real way to preserve games. There will always be an easy way to access projects cars without having to track down limited printed copies that increase in price over the years.
Valedix
Member
Uhh wheres the logic here? How am i supposed to buy a game that is no longer for sale?
amigastar
Member
Project Cars 2 was never a fully fledged Sim but i liked it nonetheless.
Skifi28
Member
There is no reason to buy a game that is no longer on sale. A digital game is forever preserved and you will always have easy access to it while physical games become stupidly expensive on the second hand market and copies deteriorate.
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lostinblue
Banned
They had a good blueprint to go forward and grow as a franchise... then they threw it away.
amigastar
Member
Yep indeed, Project Cars 3 was a disappointment.
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Valedix
Member
Yeah but only way to get the game after its been delisted is for physical copy or a 3rd party key but don't even think that will work. Look at Rockstar they removed all original trilogy games from Steam and other stores forcing you to buy the remastered version, where as you can still get classical on physical.
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Skifi28
Member
I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. If they don't sell the game anymore, piracy is not really piracy and as I said, there will always be easy access to a copy of the game. This is the only real game preservation.
Valedix
Member
Piracy is piracy mate no way to change the subject to suit your needs.
Skifi28
Member
It's the only real way to actually preserve games and the only way many games we can enjoy today are available. I have no idea why some people are so touchy when it comes to games the rights owners don't want to sell you.