feynoob
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Don't believe Aaron Greenberg no CGI trailers statement for the Showcase
- Thread starter Bernoulli
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol why would he lie so close to the conference. He would be proven wrong and ridiculed almost immediately.
This is clearly a dig at Sony who had tv trash, cg trash and other bs stuff he’s saying they won’t have. Sony took advantage of ms fucking up at e3 2013, I’m guessing Aaron and co. Picked up on the internet outrage and tailored their show to take full advantage of Sony having arguably their worst show since 2005.
If you are a true gamer you would be celebrating it or at worst hoping for it to be true. Sony was the savior of the industry when ms was down chasing dumb trends, now let’s hope for our sake Phil saves us from jimbo’s vision of PlayStation.
This is clearly a dig at Sony who had tv trash, cg trash and other bs stuff he’s saying they won’t have. Sony took advantage of ms fucking up at e3 2013, I’m guessing Aaron and co. Picked up on the internet outrage and tailored their show to take full advantage of Sony having arguably their worst show since 2005.
If you are a true gamer you would be celebrating it or at worst hoping for it to be true. Sony was the savior of the industry when ms was down chasing dumb trends, now let’s hope for our sake Phil saves us from jimbo’s vision of PlayStation.
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DaGwaphics
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SlimySnake
I hear you. Obviously they already have this presentation in the can by now, it would be quite inedible if they had a bunch of CGI trailers in there but Greenberg was out making these kinds of statements. 
SlimySnake
I hear you. Obviously they already have this presentation in the can by now, it would be quite inedible if they had a bunch of CGI trailers in there but Greenberg was out making these kinds of statements. 
PeteBull
Member
Exactly, so as long as all trailers shown from first party are just 99,9999% CGI then he can claim to not be lieing ;P
splattered
Member
Who even cares? Games these days still have CGI cutscenes, that's what he's referring to... I'm sure the games will still have some CGI cutscenes. So what? If they're done well they're still pretty cool. He's just saying there won't be any games that are full CGI rendered logos etc. Set your expectations learn to read.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
But they knew that before saying the 12 month thing.
Pedro Motta
Member
You'll lose your eyesight if you keep using the light theme. Jesus fucking Christ.Not sure what I've lost, we haven't seen anything yet. Just for reference, this is what you said:
feynoob
Member
Starfield and redfall got delayed close to the event.
Other games got delayed after the event.
It's why the 12 month is removed from this event.
Slicker than your average
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Someone replying to Greenberg
Hero_Select
Member
There's no weird agenda here.. what he means is the trailers aren't going to be just full on cgi and will show in-engine shots/gameplay.
Are people that insecure because that Sony showcase was ass?
feynoob
Member
Someone replying to Greenberg
Weak sauce. We need the receipt guy to post all E3 articles to him.
StueyDuck
Member
First MS showcase?
They are pretty synonymous with chucking CG trailers in their showcases, I'm not surprised fans are voicing their opinions on that.
It has nothing to do with Sony and its interesting that was your first go to example...
OceanGaming
Member
Reading comprehension of the G*ffers is zero as usual."Don't believe Aaron Greenberg no CGI trailers statement" - Gaf
"None of our first party games in the show are full CG trailers." - Aaron
Chaplain
Member
No, you are not the only one. However, Aaron's comment ("Everything is either in-game footage, in-engine footage, or in-game footage with some cinematics"). They should not be showing anything that is pre-rendered (in-engine footage) anymore or use different wording. It's deceptive marketing to say in-engine footage because it's presented in trailers as actual gameplay.
Correct.
Chukhopops
Member
It’s presented as in-engine footage if it’s in-engine footage. Actual gameplay has a different meaning.
How is it deceptive again?
Slicker than your average
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benjamin netanyahu is that you?
Fbh
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As noted by others, he said there wouldn't be FULL CG trailer, not that there wouldn't be any CG.
Also people keep mistaking "in engine" for gameplay. Just because something shown is "in engine" doesn't mean it's representative of what the game will actually look like during gameplay
Also people keep mistaking "in engine" for gameplay. Just because something shown is "in engine" doesn't mean it's representative of what the game will actually look like during gameplay
Ansphn
Member
I have no problems with that. As long as 50% of the 1st party games are gameplay and 50% of the 1st party games they show has a release date.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Aaron Greenberg is a professional liar and is not to be trusted, ever.
There is not much of a distinction anymore between "in-engine cutscenes" and full blown CG, it's not 1998 anymore. You can do a lot of things with in-engine cutscenes that get very very close to CG and are not representative of the actual games, this has been true for a while.
There is not much of a distinction anymore between "in-engine cutscenes" and full blown CG, it's not 1998 anymore. You can do a lot of things with in-engine cutscenes that get very very close to CG and are not representative of the actual games, this has been true for a while.
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feynoob
Member
That is not Xbox my friend. But if they do that, it will break the internet.
abacab driver
Banned
All that's gonna happen is the same thing that happened with trailers for Ragnarok, Forbidden West etc.
At the bottom of the screen it will say "mix of gameplay and cinematics." That is all.
See this Helldivers 2 trailer for reference: (which starts with CGI, switches to in-engine cinematics and gameplay..and specifies at the bottom of the screen)
Don't play stupid because we're about to see some cool (cooler?) shit that won't be on your preferred platform.
Whatever makes you feel better though!
At the bottom of the screen it will say "mix of gameplay and cinematics." That is all.
See this Helldivers 2 trailer for reference: (which starts with CGI, switches to in-engine cinematics and gameplay..and specifies at the bottom of the screen)
Don't play stupid because we're about to see some cool (cooler?) shit that won't be on your preferred platform.
Whatever makes you feel better though!
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justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
The expected implications is ton of games already with gameplay ready to be show.
The actual implications is 2 hours were will get just acquisitions announcement after acquisitions announcement.
The actual implications is 2 hours were will get just acquisitions announcement after acquisitions announcement.
Ansphn
Member
Exactly. That's what i mean when i say same song and dance. They will show games trailers but no game-play and no release date.
Chukhopops
Member
When was the last time an acquisition was announced at an Xbox showcase?
At this point it feels like people are just making shit up honestly.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
The fact that Xbox is so on this "CGI" thing in their tweets. They should just focus on their own event because they are not in a good state right now.
KXVXII9X
Member
Still looks more "next gen" than anything we have this generation. To think we suspected that was how cross-gen PS3/PS4 games would be. The physics, AI, and interactivity are still miles above what we usually get.
Iced Arcade
Member
You are trying too hard without actually trying
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feynoob
Member
I am keeping my expectations low at 1%
This way, I won't be disappointed.
Chaplain
Member
Because there is a visual downgrade from in-engine to in-game footage that is often presented as one and the same. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor is a huge culprit of this practice and Horizion Forbidden West. Footage tends to be presented in a manner that the consumer is unable to distinguish gameplay from in-engine. See Horizon Forbidden West timestamp:
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
R3claimer117
Member
lol people are still recovering from last Wednesday huh? The only thing that would be better if Microsoft finds a way to actually pull of a great showcase I can’t wait to see this place next week.
MasterCornholio
Member
Did he lie?
Bernoulli
M2 slut
we almost saw no gameplay, most were in engine "not cgi"
Technically not, but...