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[Bernoulli]

So greenberg said this


Here is the Halo Infinite in engine footage that we got

And it was nothing like the final game you can even read the disappointment in the comments
So we won't know how the presented games will look like when there is an in engine footage
with statements like this i don't believe anything he says

 

[feynoob]

Don't believe this post. He didn't see what is being shown.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Why would you post this?

You are trying to paint a narrative before the event has even happened?

 

[Chukhopops]

I don’t see how that contradicts what he says?

 

[reksveks]

1) don't believe any marketing/advertising and ultimately it doesn't matter.
2) did it really need a thread instead of a comment in the other thread.

 

[Bernoulli]

Why would you post this?

You are trying to paint a narrative before the event has even happened?

Some people believe that no cgi trailers means we get to look at how the game will be
I was hyped by the Halo Infinite trailer but when we got the actual game it was not even close
Just a warning when it's not actual gameplay it's often far from the real thing

 

[ungalo]

Every year they have to come with a completely dishonest stance that will make the headlines. The previous year was the 12 months now it's the "no CGI". They still don't understand we don't care anymore, just release the games.

 

[Kiraly]

And this couldn't go in the regular thread because?

 

[cireza]

Thanks, I will never believe this guy again !

 

[feynoob]

Every year they have to come with a completely dishonest stance that will make the headlines. The previous year was the 12 months now it's the "no CGI". They still don't understand we don't care anymore, just release the games.

Some of the announced games had delays, considering there was a freaking pandemic out there.

 

[Bernoulli]

And this couldn't go in the regular thread because?

Didn't think about that
Is there a way to transfer it there?

 

[feynoob]

Didn't think about that
Is there a way to transfer it there?

Ask mods.

 

[Portugeezer]

Some people believe that no cgi trailers means we get to look at how the game will be
I was hyped by the Halo Infinite trailer but when we got the actual game it was not even close
Just a warning when it's not actual gameplay it's often far from the real thing

Sure, but that's normal and at least it's more representative of the visuals you'll see (except DICE with Frostbite engine; in-engine always looked miles better)

 

[SJRB]

"In-engine" is the modern equivalent to CGI trailers.

You know that whatever you're seeing is not how the game will actually end up looking/playing.

 

[feynoob]

"In-engine" is the modern equivalent to CGI trailers.

You know that whatever you're seeing is not how the game will actually end up looking/playing.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Some people believe that no cgi trailers means we get to look at how the game will be
I was hyped by the Halo Infinite trailer but when we got the actual game it was not even close
Just a warning when it's not actual gameplay it's often far from the real thing

While I agree for games that are years out.... But if they say this is launching within the next 12 months...It should be pretty close.

This won't be a spider man 2 / Halo engine trailer scenario.

 

[Dick Jones]

Aaron is an idiot. Don't believe him and if it's true, it's a positive.

 

[Bernoulli]

Biggest scam of fake gameplay
I wonder if they can achieve something like that now with today's hardware

 

[RoboFu]

And?

 

[ungalo]

I can already see the statement of next year "we commit to more transparence about the games we are showing, so this year everything you are going to see is only either CGI or gameplay, no in between".

While we'll still be waiting for Avowed.

 

[Bernoulli]

While I agree for games that are years out.... But if they say this is launching within the next 12 months...It should be pretty close.

This won't be a spider man 2 / Halo engine trailer scenario.

Usually when the game is launching in the next 12 months we get at least some short clips of gameplay, nothing wrong with mixing in engine and gameplay
But the biggest scam is still watch dogs with the FULL fake gameplay

 

[Zuzu]

In-engine footage can sometimes be almost as misleading as CGI footage. So even if there's an absence of CGI there still could be some fakery in the show if there's a lot of in-engine 'tech demo' type stuff.

 

[feynoob]

Biggest scam of fake gameplay
I wonder if they can achieve something like that now with today's hardware

They can. But it's Ubisoft we are talking. They are super lazy.

 

[Bernoulli]

"In-engine" is the modern equivalent to CGI trailers.

You know that whatever you're seeing is not how the game will actually end up looking/playing.

That's what i hate, we have moved from CGI to in engine that most of the time are running on the highest PC specs and scripted that look nothing like the final game even on a high spec pc at launch

 

[The Cockatrice]

Funny how he doesnt actually state gameplay and he does say the word cinematics. As expected, just pre-rendered crap. See you in 2025 with your games Xbox.

FBeeEye too bad you're banned but fucking told you so.
near you lost the bet.

 

[Kvally]

"Don't believe Aaron Greenberg no CGI trailers statement" - Gaf

"None of our first party games in the show are full CG trailers." - Aaron

 

[feynoob]

Funny how he doesnt actually state gameplay and he does say the word cinematics. As expected, just pre-rendered crap. See you in 2025 with your games Xbox.

FBeeEye too bad you're banned but fucking told you so.
near you lost the bet.

Don't crap your pants when you see event.

 

[near]

Funny how he doesnt actually state gameplay and he does say the word cinematics. As expected, just pre-rendered crap. See you in 2025 with your games Xbox.

FBeeEye too bad you're banned but fucking told you so.
near you lost the bet.

Not sure what I've lost, we haven't seen anything yet. Just for reference, this is what you said:

 

[The Cockatrice]

Not sure what I've lost, we haven't seen anything yet. Just for reference, this is what you said:

Which is exactly what Aaron said. Lmao.

 

[near]

Which is exactly what Aaron said. Lmao.

"Everything is either in-game footage, in-engine footage, or in-game footage with some cinematics." Does not mean not actual gameplay.

 

[The Cockatrice]

"Everything is either in-game footage, in-engine footage, or in-game footage with some cinematics." Does not mean not actual gameplay.

Keep living the dream buddy. Even if it shows "gameplay", it won't be real gameplay. Is this your first event? It's been the same every year for the past 20? years. Legit gameplay are only shown months before release or in previews.

 

[feynoob]

Which is exactly what Aaron said. Lmao.

I think you need glasses my friend.

 

[kikii]

But the biggest scam is still watch dogs with the FULL fake gameplay

wait correct if im wrong but didnt some pc ppl find out to enable those graphics ?

 

[near]

Keep living the dream buddy. Even if it shows "gameplay", it won't be real gameplay. Is this your first event? It's been the same every year for the past 20? years. Legit gameplay are only shown months before release or in previews.

 

[The Cockatrice]

tfw u see the xbox event. See you in a few days buddy.

 

[j.k.2021]

Regardless, People still fail to realize that this isn't the past and Xbox just have tooo many games in development.It doesn't matter if one of two Xbox releases suck now because two or more big games will be out shortly after it.They will soon start getting payoff from all the investment they did in 2018, 2019.I expect Hellblade II and Avowed to launch next year with big Bethesda release.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Weird, trash and narrative painting thread.

 

[mejin]

10 years of lies....but let's give them a chance.

 

[Chukhopops]

Even the moaning about the showcase is now available in early access, what a time to be alive.

2021 showcase had 18% CG trailers with the rest being gameplay.

 

[Robochobo]

Keep living the dream buddy. Even if it shows "gameplay", it won't be real gameplay. Is this your first event? It's been the same every year for the past 20? years. Legit gameplay are only shown months before release or in previews.

I'm not sure what E3's or showcases you've ever watched in the past 20 years, but 95% of the time when something is explicitly said to be in-game gameplay... it's in-game gameplay. Now if it's on PC hardware or not is a choice of the publisher, but yeah. Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Godot25]

I mean. Even in-engine trailer like Halo Infinite would be way better than CGI trash from PlayStation Showcase (first-party wise) or Xbox Showcase from 2020.

That trailer from Halo Infinite at least painted something from the game. Zeta Halo, return to old art-style etc. Trailer from Concord/State of Decay 3/Avowed literally told me nothing.

Also. If it's clearly labelled as "in-engine" or "gameplay mixed with cinematics" or "gameplay from Series X" then what is a problem exactly?

 

[Bernoulli]

Regardless, People still fail to realize that this isn't the past and Xbox just have tooo many games in development.It doesn't matter if one of two Xbox releases suck now because two or more big games will be out shortly after it.They will soon start getting payoff from all the investment they did in 2018, 2019.I expect Hellblade II and Avowed to launch next year with big Bethesda release.

Hellblade 2 was announced in 2019
I hope we got a long gameplay video of it I'm hyped for that one and maybe release this year

 

[SHA]

Some people believe that no cgi trailers means we get to look at how the game will be
I was hyped by the Halo Infinite trailer but when we got the actual game it was not even close
Just a warning when it's not actual gameplay it's often far from the real thing

This issue has been around since the ancient times, to be fair, there are no brand attachments with it.

 

[oldergamer]

Total faceplant post. Honestly there was no need. comparing those two twitter posts that have nothing to do with each other is pretty pathetic

 

[Umbasaborne]

This show will be all indies and live service updates. I think we will get the bare minimum from microsofts first party

 

[Umbasaborne]

Weird, trash and narrative painting thread.

This is the narrative microsoft has painted for the last several years

 

[feynoob]

10 years of lies....but let's give them a chance.

You must have been feasting on those lies. I wonder if there is a room for more.

 

[ActusReusJB]

We live in the age of the downgrade, even if we see gameplay for any games regardless of company presenting, until it is out, you just don’t know.

 

[The Cockatrice]

but 95% of the time when something is explicitly said to be in-game gameplay... it's in-game gameplay.

I think you're mixing your universes or percentages. If you're talking about 95% of what was shown at E3 were never actual gameplay, then yes. Either that or u live in a different and better universe. Lmao at the "if these corporations say it is in gameplay IT REALLY IS GUYS". Ubisoft would like a word with you. I hear they're hiring.

 

[ADiTAR]

They did internal testing and they are going to be double digits than people's expectations.