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DF Direct: Halo Infinite Delay Reaction - Xbox 'Series S' Confirmed? - Nvidia Ampere Countdown!
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
They made a good suggestion. Make the XB1 version only multiplayer and have the campaign that you pay for be next gen only.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Quiet cancel the Xbox One version.
If anything only the MP should be on XB1 with textures and post effects set to craig.
The XSX version with full campaign and everything else should actually utilizes the power and architecture of the new generation.
If anything only the MP should be on XB1 with textures and post effects set to craig.
The XSX version with full campaign and everything else should actually utilizes the power and architecture of the new generation.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
Like John Linneman said, it might be too late already to save this game even with this delay.
Fake
Member
It's not only the Xbox One version, they will also have to make a Xbox Series S version. What a mess.
Edit: lol
The Craig thing is not from DF, is from the site who unbox the series X controller.
Hopefully it isn't too late. I want a good Halo game already.
sncvsrtoip
Member
Far above 500$ for ps5 ? Something gone wrong here.
TTOOLL
Member
Yeah, but they fully showed it lol
Orta
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PPIMystaceus
Member
But I thought DF were Xbox shills? Why are they speaking critically here? Did Mark Cerny slip a bit more cash under the table this week? A PS5 hands on?
MastaKiiLA
Member
As a relatively neutral observer of DF (I never watched or read anything from them prior to a few weeks ago), I think perception might be based on past bias. I can't attest to any of that, as I've only seen their videos since the PS5 reveal. So I don't see any real bias in their videos. I subbed to their channel, because I find it informative.
Die Namek Ability
Member
Well quite frankly this seems like damage control for the video they released a week ago saying it was just the lighting that was fucked up. I mean they just now noticed all the other areas that need TLC after it was delayed? Common man.
It’s a conspiracy against Sony!
Where is that damn tin foil when you need it.
Die Namek Ability
Member
Looking at the tech going into these things and the current Coronavirus stuff happening, I wouldn’t be surprised.
MasterCornholio
Member
There was a rumor that they would be doing the teardown. If true I can believe them going softer on Sony for having that privilege.
dottme
Member
This part suprised me, especially Alex. He was it’s just a lighting issue and now they don’t know if Halo Infinite can really be fixed.
It looks like at least they learned from the reaction from their last video on Halo.
Fake
Member
They can't edit what they don't have permission. Is up to the guy who made.
-Arcadia-
Banned
I kind of disagree with John. I don't think Infinite can be rearchitected and redone only for Series X, five years into development. I mean, I admit, it would be nice, but the game's entire design and underpinnings, going even beyond visuals, are likely based on Xbox One capabilities.
Skyr
Member
I refuse to believe this.
GAF is telling me that they are relentless Microsoft shills and make a living by getting paid by them.
Die Namek Ability
Member
I thought the same thing when they were talking about how view angles were obstructing draw distance as a limiting factor for last gen HW. I mean that a complete restructure for a level design standpoint.
Die Namek Ability
Member
Why weren't they this harsh in the two other videos they made before it got delayed?
They saying cancel the Xbox One version but to say that you have to be out of touch with what is going on with Xbox.
There is no Xbox One version it's only Xbox version , Microsoft don't plan to sell enough Xbox Series X units to support any big games for the next few years.
Xbox One is their crutch the only reason you will see some next gen games on Xbox Series X will be because of PC & PS5.
There is no Xbox One version it's only Xbox version , Microsoft don't plan to sell enough Xbox Series X units to support any big games for the next few years.
Xbox One is their crutch the only reason you will see some next gen games on Xbox Series X will be because of PC & PS5.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Yeah. The best we can hope for from the delay, I'd imagine, is a very pretty Xbox One game.
Swift Hunta
Member
If that’s all it takes for gamers then that’s truly pathetic.
Swift Hunta
Member
But why?
Fake
Member
Time? Money? Unless you think a delay will solve the problem of a 5 years old dev team game.
Another good point he made was about just keep the multiplayer for Xbox One. People don't really care much about graphics on multiplayer version, so is good to go.
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
When they make character models and textures it has to be able to fit on the old console's memory pool. That's why we have characters looking the way they do in Infinite.
See how the 360 version of Far Cry couldn't accommodate the model for the Xbox One version So they had to make a completely different model. Halo would have had to do that which means double the work. They obviously didn't.
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In the original "Xbox Games Showcase Reaction" video they were also highly critical:
See Alex talking about the shadow resolution, flickering and pop-in, and indicating the same visuals could run on a base Xbox One title. (The point of Alex's video was to explain why the lighting was flat, not to claim that this was the only problem with the game). Rich complaining about it not running on XSX hardware, not showing off the power of the SSD, and the screenshots being awful. John complaining about the character models and saying Doom Eternal looks a lot more impressive and current open world games also look better.
oldergamer
Member
No they won't its the same as the XSX version just in lower resolution.It's not only the Xbox One version, they will also have to make a Xbox Series S version. What a mess.
Edit: lol
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
You're replacing one conspiracy with another - 'Gaf is out to destroy Xbox'. And you do realise that the game being delayed and them having to do another video on the fallout is actually vindication of those panning DF and saying Alex Battaglia was trying his best to downplay any criticism of the game's visuals. Anyone can see it looked shocking, running 4k 60 fps (on a PC it turns out) is no defence at all, especially coming from a so-called technical journalist. All I'd like to see is honesty, not pussy-footing around the debate just because they are on good terms with MS.
Swift Hunta
Member
Ok but then why cancel one version. You’ve spent that much time and money into it. Just ship that version and make sxs crispier?
Fake
Member
In favor of, maybe, next gen? We still don't know how things are going inside the company, but by the presentation is not so good. I don't know if the delay will save the game with all those versions in place (Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox series X).
Is not like 'wow, lets just ship Xbox One version and make the sxs crispier'... When you decide to make a crossgen game you make a hard decision of not being so ambitious. Lots of sacrifice are involved, not just 'low settings vs ultra settings'. Those things require time and money.
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Swift Hunta
Member
Yea I see what your saying. But still why cancel one version it wouldn’t really fix anything unless you don’t wanna play halo for another year or two when really people are just sad about the graphics. Why is it always about the graphics??When they make character models and textures it has to be able to fit on the old console's memory pool. That's why we have characters looking the way they do in Infinite.
See how the 360 version of Far Cry couldn't accommodate the model for the Xbox One version So they had to make a completely different model. Halo would have had to do that which means double the work. They obviously didn't.
Fake
Member
Canceling a version could give the time they would use for that version to threat another version. Instead of ask 'why is it always about the graphics', just think about 'why you want me to buy a 12TF machine if I can play Halo here'. They need to give people a reason to move to next gen and Halo franchise already proved to be a hardware seller (John mention in the video. You should check). No hard science.
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MrFunSocks
Banned
How do people still not understand that they can’t cancel the Xbox one version without the entire game being cancelled because the game is an Xbox one game?
There is no Series X version and also a Xbox one version - there is an Xbox one version which by default also runs on the Series x. Cyberpunk is the same - there’s no actual series x version.
There is no Series X version and also a Xbox one version - there is an Xbox one version which by default also runs on the Series x. Cyberpunk is the same - there’s no actual series x version.
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Fake
Member
They can because is a scalable game. Was mention on the video.
How do you know that?
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I'm fine with them not changing the models. Give me raytraced GI and raytraced emissive lighting. Ever think about how we have all these games like Halo and R&C with all these lights and lasers beams flying across the screen but none of it ever really lights or colors the environment. Imagine playing Halo at night with all the energy blasts giving off real light. Like this:
This is something that raytracing can do that cant faked that's why you never see it. Imagine how amazing that would be in a Halo game.
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MrFunSocks
Banned
Scalable game lol.
It was in development for Xbox one for years before the Series X was a thing. It is a Xbox one game that runs by default on the series X, like literally every other non Kinect XB1 game. It is literally the XB1 version with dynamic resolution. It’s the same as cyberpunk - it simply works on the series x, with higher resolution and frame rate if they are using dynamic resolution, and it will receive a series x patch post release. That ray tracing patch they accounted for infinite? That’s the series x patch.
answer me this - is there going to be a series x disc version of the game that you can go and buy that doesn’t play on the Xbox one?