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[alabtrosMyster]

Have to admit i genuinely thought there would be a noticeable difference in Cross platform games between XSX vs PS5, wonder if it really is down to the tools on Xbox simply not being as good (for now) as the ones on Sony's machine but for an extra 2tf I was expecting a bigger difference

~18% difference in either frame rate OR resolution is a best case scenario for the series X.

In the real world they should be about even most of the time, with one or the other taking the lead depending how the system is stressed (over simplified examples: needs TF.. xbox wins... Stress the fillrate.. ps5 wins).

 

[Physiognomonics]

Comprehension is clearly not a requisite of observance. But keep up the good work, little buddy - keep those Xbots in line!


... it's like you guys aren't even trying any more.

I don't follow you. You don't like the opinion of others?

 

[sircaw]

What why ps5 looks better and runs the same on 60fps, and if the drop the shadows and veg to xsx levels, then 120fps will also run better, this is not looking good for xsx,

what do non fanboy xbox fans think about this, if i was xbox fan, i would be very upset, we are talking about 12tf vs 10.2tf here, there is a hardware bottleneck somewhere.

Yep this sounds about right to me, and no mention of the better controller.

Parity at the bare min for the ps5 at least which we all know is a disaster from a Microsoft point of view.

Ps5 is the real Deal.

does sound like the Xbox has a serious bottleneck somewhere those extra 2 tflops seem to mean nothing.

 

[SlimySnake]

The 120 fps it's a win for series x this time, i think it's depends of dev and their environment

not so fast.

Game drops frames like crazy on both machines. You see the same drops on the ps5 that you do on the series x in each scene. a few seconds before this screenshot, the ps5 goes down to the 90s.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Ps5 is the real Deal.

 

[waquzy]

PS5
-faster loading time
-better shadows
-better foliage density

XSX
-slight advantage in 120Hz mode thanks to VRR

You meant> Slight advantage due to running on lower settings.

 

[SlimySnake]

Im a fucking moron. I’m so medicated at the moment I thought it was Alex just because it wasn’t John. Pretty sure I’ve made this mistake numerous times. I’ll learn one day. They don’t even sound remotely alike

my bad

Apologies to Thomas Morgan.

Alex sounds like Otacon from MGS.

There. Now you will never confuse the two.

 

[Agnostic2020]

The only like for like scene is the driving towards the end, the frame rate is clearly better on Series X.

How u coping with less graphically fidelity on xsx ? Less plant and lower shadow resolution. How's your whole statement about Xss outperforming ps5 going .

Its a rhetorical question. No need for answer haha

 

[SamWeb]

ps5 version has no barrel....

this is a weaker build?

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Alex sounds like Otacon from MGS.

There. Now you will never confuse the two.

My brain is legit mush at this point but this will help lol

 

[BeardGawd]

Oh wow Series X putting in work!

 

[Achille0s]

not so fast.

Game drops frames like crazy on both machines. You see the same drops on the ps5 that you do on the series x in each scene. a few seconds before this screenshot, the ps5 goes down to the 90s.

Both drop we all knows, in this image it's not the same scene, in my example it's same spot and gameplay

 

[Shakka43]

Just chiming in to say the haptics and triggers are great on the DualSense but I haven't played COD on the PS5 (which is supposed to be even better in that regard).

With that said, I've been playing in resolution mode and it's been solid.

Is this game a free upgrade to the PS4 version or a new release?

 

[rofif]

Is that a free update for ps4 version or what ?

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Is this game a free upgrade to the PS4 version or a new release?

Is that a free update for ps4 version or what ?

Yeah, free upgrade baby.

I added to OP

 

[THEAP99]

Is this game a free upgrade to the PS4 version or a new release?

Is that a free update for ps4 version or what ?

Free next gen upgrade.i got it on sale recently for $20 on psn

 

[Evilms]

Wrong.

They can't measure VRR on a frame graph, it just makes it even smoother. It runs better on Xbox without it, they actually say this in the video.

There's no need to make excuses for the XSX

The PS5 version is better, the facts are there

 

[Kuranghi]

Kinda bounced off this, I think I put too much time into BL2 (400 hours) and this was too similar. I found some pretty fun legendaries in my 15 or so hours with it and some missions were engaging enough. Maybe I'll give it a go on my PS5 if everyone is saying the haptics are good though.

Riky , I know you're going through the thread using the "Empathy" reaction in a sarcastic way, but it actually makes you seem like a total maddo giving everyone you don't like the "crazy eyes" :

I could be wrong and your empathy is completely genuine *snigger*.

 

[KEOPM]

So its not about better graphics and resolution anymore. I have potato resolution but look at them frame rate yo.
"We don't need or want 1080p blu-ray, 480p dvd is more than enough already."

 

[BeardGawd]

ps5 version has no barrel....

this is a weaker build?

Interesting. So missing geometry on PS5?

 

[BigLee74]

What why ps5 looks better and runs the same on 60fps, and if the drop the shadows and veg to xsx levels, then 120fps will also run better, this is not looking good for xsx,

what do non fanboy xbox fans think about this, if i was xbox fan, i would be very upset, we are talking about 12tf vs 9tf here, there is a hardware bottleneck somewhere.

Ban this fucker now for saying 9.

 

[SlimySnake]

ps5 version has no barrel....

this is a weaker build?

#BarrelGate

 

[DavidGzz]

Sadly they gave series x the win for this one without mentioning dual sense advantage

Cause haptics are overrated af. They are neat and not as neat as the quick resume advantage that they also didn't mention. They can't keep getting away with not mentioning the small differences of each console. *Cries in fanboy*

Remember, even a tie is a XSX loss. 12TF, full RDNA2, etc...

Since I paid the same amount for both consoles you're wrong. Besides DF gave it to XSX. I also like how people are like "Noone has 120hz displays." Again now that XSX takes it, when CoD runs slightly better at 120 you all are proclaiming a win.

 

[Bogroll]

Just put it on Gamepass now please. Thanks.

 

[asustitan]

There was a fair chunk at the end during the 120fps bit Series X was constantly pulling in a higher framerate that wasn't really mentioned.

Just saying.

Yeh the Series X has Series S grass. but still.

 

[M1chl]

ps5 version has no barrel....

this is a weaker build?

This without text....

 

[Agnostic2020]

Interesting. So missing geometry on PS5?

Lol u guys are reaching that much for a win? Remember 1 month ago ps5 was 8tf rdna1.3? Fall from grace when using less vegetation and lower shadow quality is considered a win for xsx. Dont you agree

 

[Shakka43]

Free next gen upgrade.i got it on sale recently for $20 on psn

I thought I had the game as a ps plus free, turns out it was the Handsome Collection that was given away.

 

[godhandiscen]

Have to admit i genuinely thought there would be a noticeable difference in Cross platform games between XSX vs PS5, wonder if it really is down to the tools on Xbox simply not being as good (for now) as the ones on Sony's machine but for an extra 2tf I was expecting a bigger difference

You won’t see the difference until games are designed to take advantage of the larger number of CU’s the XSX delivers. This reminds me of the early days of Dual Core CPUs vs Quad Core CPUs, for years the Dual Core CPUs that had higher clocks kicked the ass of Quad Core CPUs that were more expensive but only delivered on synthetic multi-core benchmarks.

 

[Desudzer10]

Honestly just getting a steady 60fps will be great for me. But knowing i can play 120 on one of my favorite games is nice to know.

 

[SlimySnake]

How u coping with less graphically fidelity on xsx ? Less plant and lower shadow resolution. How's your whole statement about Xss outperforming ps5 going .

Its a rhetorical question. No need for answer haha

the funny thing is that it is proof that the xbox one s is holding back the xbox one x and now the xbox series x. devs are using the same xbox one s settings despite the fact that the x1x and xsx have a far better GPU.

In the future, we will see the series s hold back the x.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Series S comes out of this very well, hopefully it shuts up the naysayers some.

Dynamic 1440p, with the lowest resolution being 1188p, at smooth and solid 60fps.

Meanwhile, One X is 1080p at 60fps but has frequent drops to the 40s.

While PS5/XsX seem equal on the whole, as you'd expect, it's XsS that impresses most.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Wait, I know the response to this, I saw it so often in the CoD match-up for team green... "everyone plays on 60FPS mode, no one has TVs that can do 120FPS"

 

[BeardGawd]

Lol u guys are reaching that much for a win? Remember 1 month ago ps5 was 8tf rdna1.3? Fall from grace when using less vegetation and lower shadow quality is considered a win for xsx. Dont you agree

I'm sorry but minor foliage and shadow differences are legacy code from PS4 Pro and X1X confirmed by DF.

 

[Agnostic2020]

I'm sorry but minor foliage and shadow differences are legacy code from PS4 Pro and X1X confirmed by DF.

No its just xsx is running abit lower setting . Its a trend now. It is what it is I guess

 

[Sw0pDiller]

So wait... Series x actually wins one? Great news for the more expensive system. Still... is this 5fps in 120 mode the 2 tf power difference?

Ps5 still the system to beat I guess. Great game btw and very nice this update is free for all systems. When will the vrr system land on ps5? When the 2.1 standard is finished I guess? Don't have the TV for it though...

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

No its just xsx is running abit lower setting . Its a trend now. It is what it is I guess

DF does say it’s just the carryover settings from One X and Pro tho (where the same difference existed)

 

[Entroyp]

Another L for Xbox

 

[MrFunSocks]

lol at so many team blue shouting “but the dual sense advantage!?!?”. It’s slightly different rumble, it’s irrelevant.

The Xbox wins this one, accept it and get over it.

 

[M_A_C]

PS5 wining every time all the time.

 

[Evilms]

Borderland 3 is not an exception on PS5 since there is better grass density on dirt 5 and cod cold war too.

 

[waquzy]

Can't wait for the Cyberpunk 2077 comparison, however the current dominating performance by PS5 has convinced me to get it for PS5 instead of XSX, well done Sony.

 

[Cherrypepsi]

This just made me burst out laughing so loud that my flatmate woke up

lol at so many team blue shouting “but the dual sense advantage!?!?”. It’s slightly different rumble, it’s irrelevant.

The Xbox wins this one, accept it and get over it.

Just you wait until the tools finally get better on the playstation!

 

[THEAP99]

lol at so many team blue shouting “but the dual sense advantage!?!?”. It’s slightly different rumble, it’s irrelevant.

The Xbox wins this one, accept it and get over it.

No it isn't. The dualsense is truly the next generation controller

 

[CatLady]

Yeah, free upgrade baby.

I added to OP

Totally off topic, but I just now noticed your new user name. That's hilarious. I assume this is the next gen version of JareBear right

 

[Bogroll]

the funny thing is that it is proof that the xbox one s is holding back the xbox one x and now the xbox series x. devs are using the same xbox one s settings despite the fact that the x1x and xsx have a far better GPU.

In the future, we will see the series s hold back the x.

And it outperforms the PS5 because of it in game just as X1 did against Pro in this game.

 

[Entroyp]

There's no need to make excuses for the XSX

The PS5 version is better, the facts are there

Brilliant. So, PS5 running games better cannot be considered a fluke anymore. What a pleasant surprise this was.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Team Blue in here claiming the win despite DF literally saying the Xbox wins is hilarious.

 

[sircaw]

lol at so many team blue shouting “but the dual sense advantage!?!?”. It’s slightly different rumble, it’s irrelevant.

The Xbox wins this one, accept it and get over it.

The dual sense is a massive advantage, you will just have to get used to that from now on.

Even if you don't take that or the fast loading into account, just look at the video above you, i am not sure what is going on with xbox but perhaps you can get on twitter and start asking around why it has less detail, environmental effects, shadows etc.

i mean cod was missing muzzle flashes, is this acceptable for you to be running with worse assets when its meant to be the more powerful machine.

Its another L i am afraid Mr unhappy socks, i feel for ya, again.

Like they said the vast majority of people play at 60 fps mode anyways, and the ps5 is the better version, why would you want to play with less detail and shadows, only you can explain that one.

 

[Kuranghi]

I used to be really interested in every comparison DF did but now I don't really gaf because its all 3rd party comparisons. I want them to go back to the PC settings videos soon hopefully.

Did they say they stopped that for any reason?