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[LivingD3AD]

There are moments which you can see the exact contrary in the performance. Performance drops on both at 120 FPS

Yup

 

[DForce]

No.

They say it's more stable even without VRR.

They gave the W to xbox and sony fans still claiming it?
Seems to me that ps5 is an excellent machine fully worth the 500 usd.

Mainly because VRR on the Xbox Series X, which will likely be a non-factor as soon as PS5 gets VRR in a future update.

"Both consoles are prone to wild fluctuations. Some kicking in harder on Series X at points, others on PS5. But on the whole, it does seem Series X has the lead. For anyone looking to get the best 120fps performance, the vote has to go on Series X. For the higher base like performance and having VRR, it has that advantage."

Even if the performance are exactly the same on 60fps mode, PS5 DOES have higher details.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Yup

Thats not the same scene though

 

[Entroyp]

So better on PS5? Good.. I haven’t played these games so I’ll give this one a try.

 

[Achille0s]

There are moments which you can see the exact contrary in the performance. Performance drops on both at 120 FPS

Yes for sure but the series x show more stable line in this game it was more stable in ps5 for other games

 

[ZehDon]

Another day and another win for PS5

Imagine not watching the video and then posting in a thread about that video anyway.

"Great video - I really liked the part where that guy said the thing about that stuff. Anyway, PS5 wins!"

 

[assurdum]

Thats not the same scene though

Neither the previous. You can't replicate the same situation during the gameplay.

 

[GHG]

The 120 fps it's a win for series x this time, i think it's depends of dev and their environment

They aren't running the same settings.

 

[INC]

So basically just play in 4k60fps

Got it

 

[retsof624]

Damn. Yet another game that I can't enjoy on my Series X because DF is a dream killer smh

 

[Riky]

Mainly because VRR on the Xbox Series X, which will likely be a non-factor as soon as PS5 gets VRR in a future update.



Even if the performance are exactly the same on 60fps mode, PS5 DOES have higher details.

If you watch the video he says Xbox is more stable at 120hz even without VRR, VRR is just the icing on the cake.

The settings are from the Xbox One X, version for foliage and shadows. This was the same on One X v Pro.

 

[LivingD3AD]

Thats not the same scene though

Watch the graph bottom

 

[Die Namek Ability]

So in other threads frame rate matters but this game frame rate dont matter?

And team green will say the reverse, shut the hell up. I freaking hate these "im the victim" posts.

 

[AgentP]

So series X gets a W finally. On to the next match!

They both have drops a different places. At best it's a tie, so really a L for Xbox.

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

I’ll wait for NX Gamer or VG Tech.

 

[assurdum]

Yes for sure but the series x show more stable line in this game it was more stable in ps5 for other games

I don't know what video you seen but FPS when starts drops show similar pacing on both. Could change the scene, but both alternate similar performance with similar issue. But if you want to take it as a win , you are welcome. Don't care about such stuff.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Poor Tom. Everytime people call him Alex or never remind about him.

Alex?

Im a fucking moron. I’m so medicated at the moment I thought it was Alex just because it wasn’t John. Pretty sure I’ve made this mistake numerous times. I’ll learn one day. They don’t even sound remotely alike

my bad

Apologies to Thomas Morgan.

 

[waquzy]

Imagine not watching the video and then posting in a thread about that video anyway.

"Great video - I really liked the part where that guy said the thing about that stuff. Anyway, PS5 wins!"

Imagine watching the video and then posting in a thread about that video and saying PS5 wins.

Yeah, I just did that.

 

[TJC]

Reading this on my £199 144hz 1080p monitor lol, which the 120hz mode is perfect for... ok then.

You are not the typical Gamer. Folks out here with 7 year old tvs

 

[Orta]

So in other threads frame rate matters but this game frame rate dont matter?

It doesn't matter if the PS5 has a lower frame rate.....

 

[Greggy]

So funny to see Team Sony screaming victory no matter the outcome, a la Trump. DF could say skip the ps5 version and they would say “another win for Sony”.
I’d just like to point that according to DF, Xbox takes this one because series S is best at 60 and series X is best at 120.

 

[waquzy]

It doesn't matter if the PS5 has a lower frame rate.....

It doesn't matter if PS5 is running on higher settings

 

[Aceofspades]

PS5 is masterfully engineered BEAST.

 

[Riky]

The only like for like scene is the driving towards the end, the frame rate is clearly better on Series X.

 

[B0xel-new]

Haha this is becoming a sport isn't it. 90% of people arguing here won't even play these games. Yet here we are arguing about foliage shadows. I love it!!

 

[waquzy]

The only like for like scene is the driving towards the end, the frame rate is clearly better on Series X.

PS5 has higher settings, so yeah...

 

[diffusionx]

DF look like idiots every time they derp about using VRR to clean up inconsistent framerates. Virtually nobody owns that TV, it is like a GPU review saying that the fix for framerate fluctuation is to buy a better GPU.

 

[Riky]

 

[Cherrypepsi]

Am I the only one who doesn't really care about the XSS performance in these comparisons?

I think people who buy this console are not really the target audience of digital foundry anyway.
It's more confusing than anything else, might aswell leave it out.

 

[onQ123]

I'll just leave this here

Before this thread get locked I'll just like to say that any game that is running better on Xbox Series X than PS5 right now should be investigated for missing effects & lower resolutions.


Good Night sleep tight & don't let the Bugsnax bite

Is the PS5 the best place to play third-party multiplats on console this generation? It's time Gaf! -- Poll Inside!

I preferred when the OP was called D'Ghost, because I'd trained my brain to ignore all polls from them because they were laughably bad. Anyway, the best place to play third party games is your couch. Fucking fight me, PCMR.

www.neogaf.com

 

[Evilms]

PS5
-faster loading time
-better shadows
-better foliage density

XSX
-slight advantage in 120Hz mode thanks to VRR

 

[Nester99]

I am very curious how many people can even run 120fps on their TV right now.

 

[Orta]

Quick, delete them. That isn't allowed!!!

 

[assurdum]

Can I say something? Why every single fucking time DF should give the nod for something to a console in their analysis? People are not retarded, they see the performance in the video and they can come to the same conclusion without proclaim the winner. They hate so much fanboy but why this obsession which feed more their mouth? That's really annoying than anything else in their analysis.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Am I the only one who doesn't really care about the XSS performance in these comparisons?

I think people who buy this console are not really the target audience of digital foundry anyway.
It's more confusing than anything else, might aswell leave it out.

As far as something actual useful for consumers to make purchase decisions?

Yeah it could be left out.

But it's a video made to be consumed and there are people curious about the XSS as tech.. and many a console warrior who want to see this content to bash it lol

 

[mansoor1980]

if they downgrade the shadows and foliage on ps5 to xsx levels then it would run far better than xsx version

 

[Riky]

PS5
-faster loading time
-better shadows
-better foliage density

XSX
-slight advantage in 120Hz mode thanks to VRR

Wrong.

They can't measure VRR on a frame graph, it just makes it even smoother. It runs better on Xbox without it, they actually say this in the video.

 

[KaiserBecks]

So in other threads frame rate matters but this game frame rate dont matter?

What matters is that it‘s a win for ps5. Doesnt pan out? Apply a different logic. Now it’s the Controller that gives PS5 the Edge. You cant make this shit up. These threads are entertaining as hell.

 

[Physiognomonics]

More vegetation and higher quality shadows will have a significant impact at 120fps. XSX might win in framerate, but I don't think we can say it outperforms PS5 in this game.

 

[Stilton Disco]

Basically parity again, with some advantages on one and some the other.

Awesome. Everyone wins.

 

[ZehDon]

Imagine watching the video and then posting in a thread about that video and saying PS5 wins.

Yeah, I just did that.

Comprehension is clearly not a requisite of observance. But keep up the good work, little buddy - keep those Xbots in line!

... XSX might win in framerate, but I don't think we can say it outperforms PS5 in this game.

... it's like you guys aren't even trying any more.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Basically parity again, with some advantages on one and some the other.

Awesome. Everyone wins.

 

[onnextflix5]

Sadly they gave series x the win for this one without mentioning dual sense advantage

What why ps5 looks better and runs the same on 60fps, and if the drop the shadows and veg to xsx levels, then 120fps will also run better, this is not looking good for xsx,

what do non fanboy xbox fans think about this, if i was xbox fan, i would be very upset, we are talking about 12tf vs 9tf here, there is a hardware bottleneck somewhere.

 

[DForce]

If you watch the video he says Xbox is more stable at 120hz even without VRR, VRR is just the icing on the cake.

"This is where Xbox Series X has a crucial advantage. This is because on PlayStation 5, a V-Synced frame-rate drop causes a 8.3ms hit on the frame-time graph. But on Series X, their support for VRR............. But on a supported TV will do wonders for adjusting to variable frame-times on Borderlands 3.

The settings are from the Xbox One X, version for foliage and shadows. This was the same on One X v Pro.

The shadow quality was the same on their PS4 Pro and Xbox One X comparison video, it's different on The PS5.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Oh look at that.

A pic of Xbox with better frame counts which no Sony fan ever posts.

 

[M1chl]

Damn. Yet another game that I can't enjoy on my Series X because DF is a dream killer smh

So Sega dream is dead than? : (

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

12tf vs 9tf here, there is a hardware bottleneck somewhere.

*gasps*

You said the Naughty Number!

 

[Hitchyhero]

So in other threads frame rate matters but this game frame rate dont matter?

My thoughts exactly. I don't care about these comparisons or whether it's better on a certain console. The best version to play it on is the console you have.

That said... I've noticed a trend of gaf. If the PS5 is better at a particular bit.... That's the bit that matters and so it's the better version.

 

[mansoor1980]

if i had both consoles i wud go for the ps5 version , it is the superior version overall IMO.

 

[NonPhixion]

The Xbox's 20.54678% power advantage is really starting to show...