OutrageousFacts
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Dear 3rd-parties: If you can't port games to Switch without going super low res, don't do it
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Azurro
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Well, no, it can't, at least not from current gen games. There's always a huge resolution drop, texture quality reduction, reduction in geometry complexity, visual effects. They are all basically demakes, they can't keep the original quality.
The Pleasure
Member
It can do good ports for games that were made by Nintendo. For example the Wii U.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Between a port that runs in low resolution and not being able to play the game at all, methinks I'm gonna pick the low resolution variant.
Azurro
Banned
Ah, I meant from current gen games. Wii U ports on Switch are basically less dramatic remasters.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
How about watching (high quality user) videos before buying stuff rather than wanting your particular tastes and tolerance thresholds to be applied system-wide so nobody has options you don't want but can't decide to not buy but they may enjoy and wish to have, lol. Even you can look shit up.
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OutrageousFacts
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Well, yes, since you also praise Witcher 3 in the OP as pointed out by others already, it's taste that apparently changes per title even, yet you propose applying it to all titles equally, contradicting your own self before you even begin making a half coherent point. Lol.
The Pleasure
Member
You seriously meant current Gen games?Ah, I meant from current gen games. Wii U ports on Switch are basically less dramatic remasters.
Azurro
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tassletine
Member
No, blame Publishers, then the devs for accepting the bundles of cash. Or not.
Makoto Niijima
Banned
The Witcher looks fine on Switch. Thinly veiled console fanboyism is the worst.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Not everyone has time or the ability to play these games in the optimal environment. I have a PS4, Xbox One X and a Switch and when I do have sit down time in front of the 55" 4K I will enjoy what I can but that is few and far between. With Switch, the ability to actually play a game is more important to me that having it be the most perfect version. I own Doom on both Xbox and Switch and I have put far more time into the Switch version. It's not the better version but it's the one I need right now. I have a bunch of kids, a wife a job and other things to do through out the day. Being able to play for 30min while waiting for the train is a far bigger joy.
looks fine eeh!.... well then keep accepting downgraded ports years late ... @ FULL PRICE ... ROFL
The Pleasure
Member
The Witcher looks like Nintendo tossed a jergins filter on it and took my glasses. Shits almost blurry enough to make quest 64 look good.
I have an X1X and still buy games on the switch if I feel it's going to be a better on the go experience.
So dev's, make the cuts needed to get these games to run on the switch as there are far more people like me who want this type of experience then those who complain about graphics.
I feel every single console should be just like the switch. It's an absolute game changer.
So dev's, make the cuts needed to get these games to run on the switch as there are far more people like me who want this type of experience then those who complain about graphics.
I feel every single console should be just like the switch. It's an absolute game changer.
Mochilador
Member
This thread reminds me of COD4 for the Wii. Looks terrible but it plays nice.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
I honestly think the Witcher 3 on Switch does indeed look fine. There is not a person worth their salt going to tell you it looks better than any other version however, good does not become bad simply because better exist.
OutrageousFacts
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Guys, I' complaining about games running in such low res it's a strain on the eyes. Pls check out the Disaster Report 4-demo on the Japanese eshop, then return to thois thread ...
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Allnamestakenlol
Member
We all want that. On all platforms. Won't ever happen, tho
PhoenixTank
Member
I weigh up the port quality versus convenience when buying for Switch. Sometimes I just don't want to sit in front of my PC for hours with certain games/genres.
Reality of the platform is it seemed to catch a lot of devs by surprise and they didn't factor Switch in at the stages of development where it is easier to cater for the requirements. Thus, usually inefficient ports mostly outsourced for development after the fact with teams that are going to have an easier time dialing down graphical settings than tailoring the game and environments for the handheld.
I don't think there is going to be a sudden point where that changes.
I'll be interested to see how Doom Eternal compares to Doom 2016 on this front.
Reality of the platform is it seemed to catch a lot of devs by surprise and they didn't factor Switch in at the stages of development where it is easier to cater for the requirements. Thus, usually inefficient ports mostly outsourced for development after the fact with teams that are going to have an easier time dialing down graphical settings than tailoring the game and environments for the handheld.
I don't think there is going to be a sudden point where that changes.
I'll be interested to see how Doom Eternal compares to Doom 2016 on this front.
existensmaximum
Member
Well, both are mutually exclusive to me. If I can't have both I'd rather wait a generation or so until the hardware is powerful enough, or I choose another platform 
Or just skip the game altogether.
Or just skip the game altogether.
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
core gamers are such sissys. complain till the end times and probably even further. meanwhile I'm still completing my 360 collection and have the fun of my life, often with games that don't even look good.
Shaqazooloo
Member
It's always about you isn't it OP. What about those that like these ports even if extremely flawed?
Not everybody cares about this crap you know and if people are still buying and enjoying them, then it's best to have them then not.
Not everybody cares about this crap you know and if people are still buying and enjoying them, then it's best to have them then not.
abstract alien
Member
Just because they port it, doesn't mean you have to buy it. These are companies generally looking for financial gain, so a shit port shouldn't be surprising. Burns are great scars for learning lessons.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
DOOM2016 was an eye opening review... super blurry resolution, missing effects, botched sound/music quality, and halved frame rate with drops (which on a game like this matters a huge deal, it is a gameplay altering change)... sigh
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10000
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I felt very insulted with the framerates
Hawks Eclipse
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Just so you know, Disaster Report 4's demo runs horribly on PS4 as well. I think that game just wasn't put together well enough, so I was surprised to see it come to the Switch.
Haven't tried the Switch demo but based on what you said, it seems "the miracle never happen".
Haven't tried the Switch demo but based on what you said, it seems "the miracle never happen".
OutrageousFacts
Banned
I don't know the PS4-version, but I'd bet my life that the PS4-version does *not* look like that. Again, all of you who reply 'not everyone cares about the same things, op' or 'better to have a bad port than none': go play that demo and come back :/
Jooxed
Gold Member
And if you read my op you'd see that I'm saying Skyrim is a good port ...
(does nobody read beyond the title?
I read the title see your name then stop reading the OP because I pretty much know what I’m in for.
Kenpachii
Member
Switch ports are just cash grabs there is no money on that console for devs to care for. If it takes them any effort where they actually have to rebuild assets and area's instead of just dropping settings to the point it runs, they probably don't even bother with it, because why not spend that time in additional content for the game for platforms u got audiences for.
It's either u get a shit version or u get nothing.
If nintendo wants to change this, they need to actually start spending some cash and create a platform for 3rd party's to care for or start to deliver a platform that's on par with competition.
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Elektro Demon
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Well, if it was close in power to something like xbone or ps4, you would see more good ports.
You can't expect 3rd party devs to allocate additional time and resources to make a switch port on par with ps4/xbone versions.
And even if they do, the port would still be inferior compared to ps4/xbone because there simply isn't enough power in Switch.
You can't expect 3rd party devs to allocate additional time and resources to make a switch port on par with ps4/xbone versions.
And even if they do, the port would still be inferior compared to ps4/xbone because there simply isn't enough power in Switch.
Hawks Eclipse
Member
Hey now, don't throw your life away for a game that couldn't even be bothered to run decently on PS4 haha.
Joking aside, yea I'll try it out on Switch for the lulz. My previous reply was just meant to let you know the game isn't a case of "good elsewhere, bad on Switch".
Only way it'd run well was to get completely rebuilt, which would be a miracle of sorts, especially since it's probably a budget title to begin with.
I think only DQXIS comes close to being rebuilt and that's partly the devs honouring Iwata's request.
Edit: Or maybe it's possible for more technically savvy programmers to dive in and fix it, like what Panic Button did with Warframe. Either way, I wasn't expecting it to run well on Switch.
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Hawks Eclipse
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Erm, as I said earlier I'd try the demo...
I don't think the main issue is the resolution, which I'm guessing is around 720p (could be lower) though if you're focused on the protagonist's facial features it does look like it's being blurred to hell while in motion. The game also has temporal AA that takes a while to kick in on certain edges.
The real issue is the framerate which is probably around 15fps and also something about how UE4 renders stuff: there's this blurry afterimage as you rotate the camera and the lower the framerate, the worse that effect feels.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Are you trolling rn?That's the kind of shitpost I expected. "lol Switch weaksauce accept it dude".
No. It's perfectly possible to make games with clean resolution on Switch. It either takes more effort ... or shouldn't be done. No Nintendo's fault, not the hardware's fault. Some 3rd-parties are greedy and *choose* to make these bad ports.
Screamer-RSA
Member
You don’t HAVE to buy these low res ports you know.