Punished Miku
Gold Member
Reboot is fine. Just means they want to make something new and jettison all the baggage.
Remake is boring.
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Dead Rising franchise is being rebooted claims Jez Corden
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Remake is boring.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Who is ready for Frances West, an edgy 21-year-old college grad, and daughter of the legendary Frank West, to headline this game?
Honey Bunny
Member
This but with zombies?
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SEGAvangelist
Member
Likely. You know 4-player coop will be included. I can't wait for more student loan and my parents hate me banter like in Redfall.
This but with zombies?
Bridges
Member
I don't see this as a bad thing. DR2 and DR3 (and all the DR side games that came out inbetween) had 2 player co-op and it was fantastic, didn't impact the quality of the single player experience at all, just added to it. Especially in OTR/Case West where both characters had different movesets and abilities based on their original games.
Honestly a remake of Dead Rising in a new engine with some QoL improvements and 4 player co-op (Frank, Chuck, Nick and Dick) would probably be better than actually attempting to make a new one. I have little faith they can recapture the magic at this point.
And again with the people who are saying there shouldn't be a timer: you don't like Dead Rising and that's okay, go play one of the other zombie games. The entire premise of the game is built around that timer. This is like asking to remove upgrades from Metroid or stealth from Metal Gear Solid, you are completely changing the product, and we saw how successful the series was once they started away from this already.
VAVA Mk2
Member
Well...look at Redfall...
SEGAvangelist
Member
I joke, but I liked 2-player coop a lot actually. DR3 is my fav one because of that, and I also don't like the timer. That said, I think the new game should have a timer and be balanced around that timer. There can always be a timer-less mode for people like me. The other way around is not acceptable, as even though DR3 had the optional timer mode, it was clearly not part of the initial game design.
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Games of Today
Member
Redfall
A new Dead Rising developed by Capcom and not Capcom Vancouver after more than 15 years since Dead Rising would be very exciting.
Unfortunately i doubt they will do something similar to the first one in its game design, way too ballsy and original for this era of gaming. I expect a game that resembles the others more.
Unfortunately i doubt they will do something similar to the first one in its game design, way too ballsy and original for this era of gaming. I expect a game that resembles the others more.
MMaRsu
Banned
You could do exactly that in both Dead Rising 1 and 2. Just fail the story on purpose and you can fuck around for three days. Then restart the game with your upgraded stats and do the story.
Camreezie
Member
Dead Rising 1 was great and my favourite of the 360 era, if its a remake:
- Sort out survivor AI
- Remaster the music
- Keep the combo weapons out of it
- Keep the timer
Theres not a lot they have to do except technically clean it up to modern standards, i wouldnt be mad if they reimagined some of the scenarios to show what happens to Frank and Isabella post game
- Sort out survivor AI
- Remaster the music
- Keep the combo weapons out of it
- Keep the timer
Theres not a lot they have to do except technically clean it up to modern standards, i wouldnt be mad if they reimagined some of the scenarios to show what happens to Frank and Isabella post game
Camreezie
Member
Dead Rising 1 launched in 2006. 2 years after resident evil 4
DEAD ORIGINAL
Member
No 3 is not bad it's shit
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why does it need a "reboot?"
Just continue it with 5.
Just continue it with 5.
diffusionx
Gold Member
If they do this I hope they go back to the game design of the first 2. In today's world of roguelites and survival sims and what not I think it would find an audience.
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Killer8
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Honestly don't even bother. Everyone is dead set on not having a timer, despite it being an integral part of the original couple of game's design. It turned DR into a sort of rogue-like and added a beautiful sense of urgency and planning to an otherwise simple formula. People "just want to dick around in my own time", without realizing you can do exactly that in the original because 72 hour mode doesn't end if you hit a fail state. The skills and insights you gain in the failed practice run only make your second attempt at the story go more smoothly.
A reboot will also completely fail to recreate the same atmosphere. Guaranteed. The original straddled that line between comedy and seriousness in the same way as Capcom's other games at the time. Any reboot will lean too far in either direction: LOLSOZANY (see: DR4), or a serious attempt to be the Japanese Last of Us, which no one wants either. All the personality of the psychopaths will be stripped out, because let's face it: the psycho in 2005 is now just your typical Redditor or Resetera poster today, and Capcom won't want to piss off their target audience. The quirky mall atmosphere will also be gone since malls are pretty much dead in the modern day and zoomers can't relate to them. It will have to be a theme park or a music festival or some other noisy ADD bullshit.
A reboot will also completely fail to recreate the same atmosphere. Guaranteed. The original straddled that line between comedy and seriousness in the same way as Capcom's other games at the time. Any reboot will lean too far in either direction: LOLSOZANY (see: DR4), or a serious attempt to be the Japanese Last of Us, which no one wants either. All the personality of the psychopaths will be stripped out, because let's face it: the psycho in 2005 is now just your typical Redditor or Resetera poster today, and Capcom won't want to piss off their target audience. The quirky mall atmosphere will also be gone since malls are pretty much dead in the modern day and zoomers can't relate to them. It will have to be a theme park or a music festival or some other noisy ADD bullshit.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
The Capcom that's put out banger after banger for years now? Are you insane?
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Last of Us remaster: 2014 (new remake was in 2022)
Dead Rising: 2006
DaGwaphics
Member
I can see GC/Xbox/PS1 games getting remakes, to me it just seems like PS360 games were already at a point where it isn't really worth it to bother. But this is a reboot, so, a new game entirely which is ok.
Camreezie
Member
Personally i feel the original has held up pretty well but could definitely use some touching up as the survivor AI is atrocious. Theres more case to remake this than something like the last of us, horizon or god of war for sure which either happened or are heavily rumored. We also just got dead space a 2008 game
Sidney Prescott
Member
I'd love a Remake of the first game. The Mall setting was awesome and they could really load up the screen with so many more zombies with today's tech. Be cool to see it.
SkylineRKR
Member
Dead Rising 1 is a masterpiece. I beat it on PS4 with Overtime included. Its one of the better Roguelites before I even know the term.
You can raise your stats, unlock more moves and die or fuckup your run, your character keeps growing stronger making subsequent runs easier every time. I fucking loved the planning you had to do because of the time mechanic and eventually you laugh about the psychos in the Jeep, because they're free points. In my opinion, the game doesn't even work without the timer as the urgency is what makes it so great. Sometimes you have to sacrifice people to get to an event in time, its about choices and efficiency.
I only hated the escort stuff, it didn't work. I hope if a remake comes, they buff their health and AI. i think the controls are a bit clunky as well, though Frank West isn't supposed to be a commando. The overtime mode didn't really work out well too, those parts were rather atrocious and the final boss was horrible.
You can raise your stats, unlock more moves and die or fuckup your run, your character keeps growing stronger making subsequent runs easier every time. I fucking loved the planning you had to do because of the time mechanic and eventually you laugh about the psychos in the Jeep, because they're free points. In my opinion, the game doesn't even work without the timer as the urgency is what makes it so great. Sometimes you have to sacrifice people to get to an event in time, its about choices and efficiency.
I only hated the escort stuff, it didn't work. I hope if a remake comes, they buff their health and AI. i think the controls are a bit clunky as well, though Frank West isn't supposed to be a commando. The overtime mode didn't really work out well too, those parts were rather atrocious and the final boss was horrible.
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Pegasus Actual
Member
Lowkey best single player game of that console generation. It was even a pretty strong early "Achievement" game before the whole gamerscore thing got super stale. There were a couple of shitty achievements in there, the zombie genocider one which boiled down to doing hours of laps in the parking garage running over zombies... and I think there was one for the survival mode where you'd have to cheese it by collecting all the available orange juice or whatever for health and climb on a counter.
But surely they will fuck up a remake so I'm not sure I'm excited.
But surely they will fuck up a remake so I'm not sure I'm excited.
TwiztidElf
Member
Shit. Just give me a straight port of DR1 on the Switch and I'm set. 
A lot of folks in this thread "get it", and I also believe traditional DR game design can work in this environment, particularly after Returnal.
Ah - only temporary. Over all that stupid Redfall mess? Damn.
A lot of folks in this thread "get it", and I also believe traditional DR game design can work in this environment, particularly after Returnal.
Punished Miku got banned.
Ah - only temporary. Over all that stupid Redfall mess? Damn.
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Tiamat2san
Member
Please be true!
Dead rising is a fantastic series except 4.
Dead rising is a fantastic series except 4.