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Do they really have the systems in place to do this though? I'm not convinced that anyone has proof that I was vaccinated other than my little flash card thing.L.A. County plans to require proof of vaccination at indoor bars, nightclubs, breweries, wineries
A new health order will require proof of COVID-19 vaccination to enter indoor bars, wineries, breweries, nightclubs and lounges in Los Angeles County.
LA is requiring vaccinations at large outdoor events, that means Dodgers and Rams games.
I would pay upwards of 5 American dollars to hear Trump talk about giant testicles.
www.propublica.org
And people mocked Kamala for saying we have to protect the vaccinated from the idiots who refuse to vaccinate or mask up.Another reason to get vaccinated, significantly betters the odds of your ass staying out of the hospital.
A Boy Went to a COVID-Swamped ER. He Waited for Hours. Then His Appendix Burst.
Non-COVID patients are paying a price as the delta variant and low-vaccination rates overwhelm hospitals across the country. “Wait times can now be measured in days,” said an expert.
Exactly. They’ll still take monoclonal therapy even though it has the same FDA approval status as the vaccine. All of it is one giant ODD against the vaccine. It is unreal.
So I guess you would also support rejecting obese people as well? The science is clear that they are hugely at risk, regardless of vaccination status. They bog the entire system down, even outside of covid.
Oh hey it's this argument again.
Exactly. It's a completely ridiculous example.
Hey look, it’s this horrible analogy again.
#Ballgate
Same here in Germany, Winter will be fucked up. The Unvaccinated will drop like flies.
Just imagine being the person who told Nikki Minaj this. They must be sitting back, watching/reading the news thinking they’re a world master-class troll.
Same here in Buffalo. Lots of crying here.L.A. County plans to require proof of vaccination at indoor bars, nightclubs, breweries, wineries
A new health order will require proof of COVID-19 vaccination to enter indoor bars, wineries, breweries, nightclubs and lounges in Los Angeles County.
LA is requiring vaccinations at large outdoor events, that means Dodgers and Rams games.
Then why are the local news reports in such regions reporting the exact opposite?
The south getting worked.
Covid Hospitalizations Hit Crisis Levels in Southern I.C.U.s (Published 2021)
One in four intensive care units in the U.S. is 95 percent full or more, and available beds are gone or dwindling especially fast in a handful of states including Alabama, Texas and Florida.www.nytimes.com
m.theepochtimes.com
It basically looks like a map of Trump counties. Or at least the ones with people in them.
Yes, let’s make people lose even more jobs, economy will be hit even harder and the government will have to spend even more money that you and your kids will have to pay back.
They won’t, they will fill the ICU beds for weeks and the rest of the population will have to pay lots of money so they don’t die.
There are many similarities between this pandemic and the Spanish Flu. I just made a post that includes data from that period.
Covid 19 Thread: [no bitching about masks of Fauci edition]
Whenever people try to argue we shouldn’t be packing in stadiums, that ignores the question, what if it’s endemic? We obviously have to get back to normal at some point. Not to mention outdoor spread is rarer, and when you count 70% of people had at least one jab, and I’m sure a decent chunk of...www.neogaf.com
The number of deaths in England and Wales in 2020 was the highest since the year of the Spanish Flu.
According to history, the Spanish Flu killed 675,000 people in the USA.
1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC
Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.www.cdc.gov
Currently, the death toll from COVID19 in the USA stands at 660,000 people, with about 1,500 people in the USA dying every day.
Of course, the numbers now would probably be higher just because there's more people now than in 1918, but the magnitude of death is nearly the same.
We don't necessarily have "bodies everywhere" because our death care and morgues are a lot better than 100 years ago, but they have and are still experiencing a strain.
Temporary morgues set up as UK hospitals run out of space
British authorities have had to set up a temporary morgues in some areas after local hospital mortuaries ran out of space due to a surge in deaths caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.www.reuters.com
San Diego Hospitals Running out of Morgue Space
Medical-center officials say they’re moving bodies to funeral homes and to the county medical examiner’s storage facility.www.nbcsandiego.com
COVID-19 deaths straining some Florida hospital morgues
MIAMI (AP) — Mounting deaths from the latest surge in COVID-19 have strained capacity at hospital morgues and funeral homes across central Florida.apnews.com
India doesn't have the standard of healthcare that we do, so they resorted to burning bodies outside because they were so overloaded.
India Covid: Delhi running out of space for cremations
Police in India's capital ask for more cremation sites as a deadly second wave sweeps the country.www.bbc.com
That's not accurate. There are exemptions for people with medical issues.
Sweeping new vaccine mandates for 100 million Americans
President Joe Biden has announced sweeping new federal vaccine requirements affecting as many as 100 million Americans in an all-out effort to curb the surging COVID-19 delta variant.
TLDR: I showed you how this pandemic is similar to the Spanish Flu, so does that make you accept your threshold? I also showed you that there are medical exemptions. Do you accept that?
Did you really not read my whole post because I addressed your very criticism in the same post.
LOL @ "similar to the Spanish Flu." Wow. Just wow. Around 50 million people died from the Spanish Flu worldwide, with a population of 1.8 billion. That would translate to around 200 million deaths with today's 8 billion population. Even take HALF of that amount (due to advances in hygiene/sanitation/medicine etc.) and you're talking 100M people versus COVID's 4.6M. Hell, even take a QUARTER of it and it's 50M vs. 4.6M. And that's a lot of assumptions, mind you. Once could just as easily argue that the increased population density today in cities etc. and more frequent travel increases spread, as thus the Spanish Flu if unleashed today would kill an even greater percentage of the population than it did. In addition, the mortality curve when plotted against age showed a disproportionate number of deaths in the 20-40 year old range as well as the 65-80 year old range, as opposed to COVID, whose mortality exponentially increases above 65 years of age. Hence the Spanish Flu was not only killing far more people, but also far more of the most productive members of society with a lot of life ahead of them. But yeah - completely similar.
Did you really think that no one would call you out on your nonsensical post?
That would require self-awareness.
My statement, which was an objective fact.
The tone and import that you felt and imagined.
My aim was not to draw an equivalence, because if I wanted to do that, I would have, you know, actually drawn an equivalence. Instead, I pointed out a similarity, which is not an equivalence. You can identify this because I literally used the word "similarity", and also because I pointed out a major thing in that post and another major thing in a follow up post that specifically acknowledges the differences between these two time periods, which to most readers, would indicate a similar yet non-equivalent comparison is taking place.
Off base?
LOL @ "similar to the Spanish Flu." Wow. Just wow. Around 50 million people died from the Spanish Flu worldwide, with a population of 1.8 billion. That would translate to around 200 million deaths with today's 8 billion population. Even take HALF of that amount (due to advances in hygiene/sanitation/medicine etc.) and you're talking 100M people versus COVID's 4.6M. Hell, even take a QUARTER of it and it's 50M vs. 4.6M. And that's a lot of assumptions, mind you. Once could just as easily argue that the increased population density today in cities etc. and more frequent travel increases spread, as thus the Spanish Flu if unleashed today would kill an even greater percentage of the population than it did. In addition, the mortality curve when plotted against age showed a disproportionate number of deaths in the 20-40 year old range as well as the 65-80 year old range, as opposed to COVID, whose mortality exponentially increases above 65 years of age. Hence the Spanish Flu was not only killing far more people, but also far more of the most productive members of society with a lot of life ahead of them. But yeah - completely similar.
Did you really think that no one would call you out on your nonsensical post?
Most of the ad hoc and post hoc rationalizations coming out do seem to tend that way.
This is a perfect distillation of how a lay person can look at some stats and think they know what they’re talking about, but completely miss the forest for the trees, as you point here.
It’s hilarious that we have our own “The Real Virus Is the Media” in this very thread. What a world.1918 pandemic:
Outdoor church service, fully masked.
2021 pandemic:
