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Controversial gaming opinions you have that could end in you being labeled a hater or troll?

kunonabi

Member
I love a lot of games even else hates and there are several "Goats" that I actively despise so I get labeled a troll fairly often but I honestly do hold these stances. It is what is.
 

Shut0wen

Member
Honestly think alot of sony exclusives are boring, didnt enjoy any of there ps2 exclusives except shadow of colossus and GOW 1 and 3, ps3 i only liked killzone 2 and 3 was ok, GOW 3 and the last of us but the rest were awful, resistance is medicore, uncharted 1 and 2 get repetitive really fast, all of the infamous games are poor, ill give credit to them for funding alot of first party titles but they are just not for me, ended up not getting a ps4 because the only exclusives i enjoyed was spiderman and resogun although lou2 looks great as well rest look ok at best
 

FUBARx89

Member
All Naughty Dog games have shit poor shooting mechanics.

Anything after Wind Waker is just shit.

Nintendo are shit now.

RE7 was a giant turd.

Wolfenstein 2 isn't some political crap.

Aries dying in FFVII wasn't sad. At all.

The dreamcast was an amazing console.

Phil Spencer talks absolute shit and it just as bad as Don Mattrick.

The Evil Within 1 was a good game and 2 pales in compairson.

Skyrim and Fallout 4 are vastly overrated, the best thing MS got out the purchase was iD.

AND FINALLY.

Ababdoned is Silent Hills. #teamrealforlife.
 

SinDelta

Member
After playing and beating both, I think Xenoblade Chronicles DE is a better game then Breath of the Wild, and one of the best ever created.

The Xenoblade trilogy puts the Mass Effect trilogy to shame and is at the pinnacle of sci-fi in gaming (alongside 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim and the first Kotor.)
 
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LMJ

Member
wait, is this an example of a controversial or uncontroversial opinion? Cause thats just a fact to me

Lol yeah controversial

the numerous critics and game of the years award would consider my words blasphemy as they lauded his brave, Yasss style of writing...

I honestly couldnt stop laughing at the central premise of "violence can have unattended consequences" ignore that massive pile of bodies there, it's that one guy who suddenly has a daughter who is REALLY important lol

I repeat...hack!
 

yansolo

Member
just for a laugh off the top of my head:

nintendo is a bad company and their games are for kids

zelda games are terrible

halo is the most overrated franchise ever

ghost of tsushima was average at best and was praised by everyone out of spite for last of us

i cant believe people play mmo's
 

nivix

Neo Member
Gears of War 5, I hate the Gears Kids. They are the perfect example of how to ruin a franchise. They should all get their stupid faces chainsawed in. Get rid of the dumb robots too.

What's probably the more controversial opinion: Test Drive Unlimited is more fun than any of the Forza Horizons. 😁
 
I’m sure many would agree with the following statement:

99.9% of AAA games that were released last gen could’ve been made on PS3/360 with with worse graphics, but no fundamental changes to their gameplay.

But I’ll go even further and say this:

90% of AAA games that were released last gen could’ve been made on PS2 with much worse graphics, but no fundamental changes their gameplay.

This might sound extreme, but I don’t think it is. Would Uncharted 4 really have been impossible on PS2 from a gameplay perspective? Considering that even the PSP got its own Assassin’s Creed game, with a fully featured open world and the same core gameplay features from the main games, I can’t think of many games on PS4/XBone that wouldn’t have been possible on PS2 (with PS2-level graphics and animations, of course). The only exceptions I can think of are multiplayer games with large numbers of players (like Battlefield), and games with a large amount of interactive objects that are constantly being tracked (like Fallout 4 or Skyrim). But most of the rest could’ve been realized on PS2 with some changes, without fundamentally changing the gameplay structure of those games (by extension the same is true for most PS360 games).
I don't even see why this would be controversial, it's unarguably true.

The amount of energy that goes into making character models more detailed, only for these characters to be doing the same things in game after game is such a waste of resources.
 

Rippa

Member
2 things.

1. I see first person games as the same game. Just re-skinned for the different art styles. It’s laughable, Two floating hands on the sides of the screen. Lackluster animations for everything that you shoot. (Except Killzone 2 which had fantastic animations when killing the helghast)

2. 97.5% of the games on GamePass are SHOVELWARE.

I don’t care if I sound like a hater, these are my opinions.
 
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Mozzarella

Member
I dont know if this fits in the thread but i think Rockstar and Naughty Dog games are overrated in scores, they do these production values that makes games appear on the same tier as Cinema kind of things, but their gameplay and their stories are not top of the line from what i played. Rockstar are way better though but still a bit overrated in terms of Metacritic scores. RDR2 and GTA5 both get like 97 metacritic despite having the same outdated gameplay and linear mission design since the Vice City games.
Naughty Dog games tend to chase over the Hollywood style, Uncharted and The Last of Us series both appear as a C or B tier action film. The stories of Uncharted are uninspired and bring nothing new, and the gameplay is not anything better than decent. Same goes for The Last of Us but the first game TLOU 2013 had good story i would say, like one of the good post apocalypse ones, gameplay is still just decent though. TLOU2 however goes downhill in story while it just slightly improves its gameplay.
Naughty Dog especially relies on its production values and cinematic game design to appeal to the much larger crowd beyond gaming enthusiasts and thats not a problem at all, but when it comes to scoring and reviews i dont view it as top of the line.
I enjoy Rockstar games because they are one of the best at making open world interactive sandbox so i dont mind them alot but Naughty Dog is the worse here.
This may sound like im Naughty Dog hater, im not a hater, i dont go out of my way in every opportunity to hate on their games, but i bought 5 games so far from them and never i thought that the acclaim they get is deserved, its always overblown, overpraised. They are just 5-8/10 tier of games imo, depends on which game, and i dont find them doing anything spectacular, everytime they release their games, their fans go rabid on them for 2 years and then the hype dies.
They also make similar games, like people talk shit about Fromsoft when they make Dark Souls. BloodBorne and Sekiro. But looking back at it, Fromsoft games are more varied than Naughty Dog and Rockstar and nobody mentions that.
Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2 is probably the worst disappointment i had with them. The gameplay and the story were awful, it was just a mindless action adventure indian jones inspired flick with high produciton value at the time that made it appear like a popcorn movie, masterpiece of gaming? no way.
I guess their philosophy has generated quite the fanbase, a lot of people seem to like these type of games, but i never found them as impressive, at best they are good/solid like 7/10? at worst they are awful with good production values like 4/10?
But good for people who like them, they can be good recommendation for a person who doesnt game a lot, like you can just plug your playstation put the disc and enjoy the movie i mean the game with pressing X as fast as you can so you can squeeze yourself out of the door. Revolutionary gameplay, oh or you can beat a bunch of bad guys in a indiana jones style and beat the one dimensional final villain and save the day with your generic C tier hollywoood style of action popcorn flick.
 

Sleepwalker

Member
oof, alright. here we go:

- Majora's mask is a very meh game
- Fire emblem has become dogshit ever since the nds, the new one is a "waifu simulator" for weebs and creeps
- The persona series is shit.
- GTA V is a mediocre game
- Bloodborne is overrated and its fans are annoying
- TLOU2's plot would fit well as a syfy low budget tv movie
- Fallout is overrated
- RDR2 looked pretty but it was awful to play. Arthur was still a great character so I still finished it.
- The resident evil games with fixed camera angles and tank controls are terrible, people asking for them to come back are clueless and wrong. They are a product of their time and should stay there.


Finally:

I have gamepass but I almost never find something worth playing in it, it's mostly (at least until now) a bunch of old games or shitty indies for console warrior to wank over. PS Now is equally terrible or worse.
 
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It hurts to say this as a huge Persona and FE fan, but Three Houses and Persona 5 are not that good and it's in mostly due to the developers trying to appeal to a broader demographic.
 

Corgi1985

Banned
oof, alright. here we go:

- Majora's mask is a very meh game
- Fire emblem has become dogshit ever since the nds, the new one is a "waifu simulator" for weebs and creeps
- The persona series is shit.
- GTA V is a mediocre game
- Bloodborne is overrated and its fans are annoying
- TLOU2's plot would fit well as a syfy low budget tv movie
- Fallout is overrated
- RDR2 looked pretty but it was awful to play. Arthur was still a great character so I still finished it.
- The resident evil games with fixed camera angles and tank controls are terrible, people asking for them to come back are clueless and wrong. They are a product of their time and should stay there.


Finally:

I have gamepass but I almost never find something worth playing in it, it's mostly (at least until now) a bunch of old games or shitty indies for console warrior to wank over. PS Now is equally terrible or worse.
you may have accidentally spelled "nintendo" as "gamepass" here
 
GTA V while technically great is a cringe fest that has one of the worst characters ever created with Trevor. Rockstar wanted to win back the people who didn't like GTA IV so they put out a game with grade school fart jokes. I don't think I cared about a single character.
facts he kills any serious GTA5 had well had since every update for the online has turned it into budget family guy but the story in gta5 is written like a 12 outside of michael
 

Arsic

Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Witcher 3 is worse than Witcher 2 in every way.

Zelda BoTW is the worst Zelda game by a long mile.

Remedy is the most overrated shit developer with all mediocre games that gets hyped for no reason and no track record to back them up.
 
The only good Halo campaigns are 3 and Reach. 1 and 2 are mind numbingly dull. All Halo stories are mediocre.

Call of Duty campaigns are fun for what they are.

Assassin's Creed III has the best story in the franchise and it's the best or 2nd best written game in the franchise (around or just slightly below Assassin's Creed 1)

Far Cry 2 is an inherently more interesting game than Far Cry 3.

Crysis 2 is the best Crysis (mostly due to best written story and most set pieces)

Doom 3 (the original with the flashlight gimmick) is an amazing game and I don't understand why other people think otherwise, except if they didn't play it for more than 30 minutes.

Deus Ex Mankind Divided is a vastly better title than Human Revolution.

Dead Space 3 is flawed, yes, but it's a brilliant, 9/10 game.
AC3 was pretty ambious but alot of the game ran extremely poor on the ps3 there are sections were the fps will go from like 30 to 10fps
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
There's not a single Sony first party exclusive game apart from Spiderman released on the PS4 or PS5 that I have any interest in playing. I'll buy any console that has games I want to play - apart from the PS4, Switch, and PS5, I own every single console from the big 4 (nintendo, sega, sony, microsoft) going back to and including the NES generation, including portables.

I don't really play story driven single player games, I just don't like them. The more cinematic they are, the more I dislike them. I forced myself through Uncharted 2 back on the PS3 because of the rave reviews, didn't like it. Got Uncharted 3 when it was like $5 in the bargain bin, made it through about 3 levels before I couldn't take any more. Tried TLOU on PS3 again when it was bargain binned, made it maybe 3 hours in before I gave up. Since then, it's pretty much all sony have made. Cinematic, linear, third person story driven games. That's fine, that's their thing, but to me the XB1 had better exclusives than the PS4 because even though there weren't many towards the end, they appealed to me.

And just to clarify - I didn't finish Gears Judgement, 4, or 5s campaigns. Only did a few levels of each before giving up. Halo 5 I finished about a year after I bought it, only because a friend wanted to do it co-op. Haven't touched a battlefield campaign for more than an hour or so since Bad Company 2 iirc. COD, if I buy it, SP never gets touched.

The PS5 seems to be doubling down hard on the linear cinematic exclusives, so I doubt I'll ever be buying one. I won't even buy their games on PC when they're available.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
I thought Fallout 3 was an abysmal dark brown/off green Vaseline smear on my tv with sophomore writing and voice acting that was generally worse.

I think The Elder Scrolls games are severely overhyped and play quite clumsily.

I think anyone who unironically enjoys Borderlands is a walking paradox, simultaneously way too patient, and way too entertained by edgelord teen humor.

I think God of War was so bad that I've never actually given any of the sequels the benefit of the doubt to try.

I think that I don't like Call of Duty.

I think Metroid Prime 4 is vaporware.

I think Final Fantasy XIII is a good game, and all the "datalog, proper nouns, so much confused," is overblown and makes people sound incredibly stupid.

I think Metal Gear Rising is great, but janky as fuck.

I think Resident Evil 6 is a fucking amazing game, and the most bang I've ever gotten for full price on a RE game.

I think I like Silent Hill 3 more than 2 and Homecoming more than 4.

I think Vagrant Story is one of the ugliest things I've ever had on my tv, and I watched Trisha Paytas porn on there once.
 
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I really really don't like the style of Korean mmorpgs at all. It doesn't feel like gaming, but more like a series of endless boring 2nd-job tasks. Graphics always look nice, but they have never felt like a 'game' to me. But it's gotten me labled as racist or close-minded. I really did try to like some of these games, but it just leaves me drained and miserable.
most people in korea just play mmos and they design there games like that aka not a side game you pick up every other month but yea they are very grinding for mmo standards
 

gmilh

Neo Member
I'm a proud Sony fanboy through and through, but honestly I think Naughty Dogs makes horrible games and they could be sold to Microsoft already for all I care.
  1. Crash Bandicoot fair enough, just aimed for precise platforming rather than the non linear exploration style I prefer from titles such as Spyro and the 3D Mario games. I don't like those games myself but I can understand why they are good.
  2. Jak and Dexter I never played so I won't pass judgment on there.
  3. Uncharted I only played the first one when it came out, got to the mid point and was just too bored to continue. Tried again years later and this time I couldn't even get that far. It's just boring, the plot has been done to death in other medium, and the gunplay is too bland for me to care.
  4. The Last of Us was the first ND game I event completed, and I've done so because people wouldn't shut up about how GOTY it was, but after forcing myself through it I really wish I had spent those 30 hours doing something else. The story was way to dragged out, the gunplay was underdeveloped as it is common in Naughty Dogs games, and the gameplay loop of seeing a landmark in the distance, collect resources, have the same goddamn clicker encounter a thousand time, get to the landmark, cutscene, and spot another landmark, got stale very quick and made me feel like a pointless chore every time.
  5. The Last of Us 2 was basically the same, but for 60 hours this time. I liked
    Abby and Lev
    leagues above Joel and Ellie, because for once they weren't stereotypical zombie apocalypse protagonist archetypes. I also liked the player motivation given to my in the latter segment of the game to fight tribal bigots, because unlike the cannibals in the first game, that's an actually relatable motivation. The main gameplay loop was the same boring loop from the first one. The "innovative gameplay" were features we have seen in other games from the PS2 era: proning? That was in MGS3. Throwing enemies into other enemies? I've seen that before too. The "revolutionary storytelling", nah that was just a combination of narrative dissonance and flat out bad writing
    why would Ellie spare Abby? She just killed a legion of people to get there. The player just witnessed Abby's story, but Ellie doesn't know about any of that. Having that sudden flashback wouldn't make her desist from taking another life. She literally just murdered hundredths of people.
    I'm sorry but TLoU 2 flat out fails at doing what Undertale, a game by one person, nailed back in 2015: actually addressing violence in video games in narrative. TLoU2 is all I hate about the industry trends: the game is not innovative nor fun in any meaningful way, it was built on the shoulder of people crunched to death to make unnecessarily realistic visuals, completely disregarding that the point of this medium is compelling gameplay and player agency. This game fails at delivering either with dated gameplay and flat out trying to scold the player for a narrative they had no agency about. Meanwhile the industry drowns the title in GOTY awards, because it presents itself as deep and artsy, when in reality that's no less a façade than the Activision twitter account tweeting about woman empowerment on women's day. Now don't get me wrong, I have the upmost respect for the people who actually worked hard to make the game come to be up, which is why I don't tolerate them suffering from the corruption in this industry one more day.
 

Hobbygaming

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Naughty Dog have 2 of the best games of all time Uncharted 4 and TLOU

Quantum Break was a really good game and one of the best of 2016

Gamepass is the most overrated thing gaming has ever seen
 

Hulk_Smash

Banned
The more serious the game and the more hyped it is, the less likely I am to play it. I had/have zero interest In any of the following games:

Mass Effect
Red Dead Redemption
Watch Dogs 1
Cyberpunk
TLOU
Far Cry
God of War
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Infamous
Metal Gear Solid
Death Stranding
Fallout
Final Fantasy 13,15
Elder Scrolls
Arma
Assassin’s Creed (except Black Flag which was awesome)
All racing and sports simulation games (ie Madden, Forza, Gran Tourismo, etc)

A lot of RPGs and a lot of PC only games fall into this category to me.

The more serious the game, the more pretentious it is to me and the less likely I am to play it. If it doesn’t have something in it to release the pretentiousness and be a little self-aware that it’s a video game, then it’s an instant turn off. Doubly so if it is open world. For example, I like Blood Dragon a LOT more than any other Far Cry. I lIke Watch Dogs 2 much more than 1 and Legion.

On the one hand, that’s not to say I don’t like some serious games. I think horror games have to ”play-it-straight” to be effective. I also for some reason really really liked Detroit.

And on the other hand there are hints of wackiness in some of the game I listed above that are definitely “video-gamey”. But, for the most part, I like my video games to know they’re video games and not something that is pretending to be something other than a video game.
 
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TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
The more serious the game and the more hyped it is, the less likely I am to play it. I had/have zero interest In any of the following games:

Mass Effect
Red Dead Redemption
Watch Dogs 1
Cyberpunk
TLOU
Far Cry
God of War
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Infamous
Metal Gear Solid
Death Stranding
Fallout
Final Fantasy 13,15
Elder Scrolls
Arma
Assassin’s Creed (except Black Flag which was awesome)
All racing and sports simulation games (ie Madden, Forza, Gran Tourismo, etc)

A lot of RPGs and a lot of PC only games fall into this category to me.

The more serious the game, the more pretentious it is to me and the less likely I am to play it. If it doesn’t have something in it to release the pretentiousness and be a little self-aware that it’s a video game, then it’s an instant turn off. Doubly so if it is open world. For example, I like Blood Dragon a LOT more than any other Far Cry. I lIke Watch Dogs 2 much more than 1 and Legion.

On the one hand, that’s not to say I don’t like some serious games. I think horror games have to ”play-it-straight” to be effective. I also for some reason really really liked Detroit.

And on the other hand there are hints of wackiness in some of the game I listed above that are definitely “video-gamey”. But, for the most part, I like my video games to know they’re video games and not something that is pretending to be something other than a video game.

But...how do you know if something is "wacky and videogamey," or not if you don't play it? Mass Effect in particular is goofy as hell. I'm not challenging your opinion or anything, just legit curious how you come to your conclusions about what's worth your time or not.
 

Hobbygaming

has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
Nier Automata is an ok game. It's mostly popular because the main protagonist is fanboy fap material. The cosplay, toys, deviant art...all of it.
Cry Cry Cry GIF by MOODMAN
 

Hulk_Smash

Banned
But...how do you know if something is "wacky and videogamey," or not if you don't play it? Mass Effect in particular is goofy as hell. I'm not challenging your opinion or anything, just legit curious how you come to your conclusions about what's worth your time or not.
I’ve played some of the entries in those games. Heck, I’ve beaten TLOU1 And MGS1. Played about 30 hours of Skyrim. And so on. I admit, some of it is subjective. Far Cry villains are overthetop and goofy as hell, but it just doesn’t appeal to me. Plus, the way it’s marketed sometimes is all it takes to turn me off. Like “THIS game is going to be THE game that gets the world to take us seriously!“ Cyberpunk’s original trailer, Dead Island’s trailer, Watch Dogs 1‘s trailer just screams TAKE ME SERIOUSLY! I‘M ART! I AM MEDIA!

Nah, fuck off. You’re just pretentious is all.

Again, it’s all subjective. :)
 

Sleepwalker

Member
I really really don't like the style of Korean mmorpgs at all. It doesn't feel like gaming, but more like a series of endless boring 2nd-job tasks. Graphics always look nice, but they have never felt like a 'game' to me. But it's gotten me labled as racist or close-minded. I really did try to like some of these games, but it just leaves me drained and miserable.

Exactly how I felt after trying black desert.


When I was a kid I loved Ragnarok online though, still the most fun i've had with an MMO to this day.
 

Quasicat

Member
Oblivion is a great game as long as you do not start the Oblivion gates in Kvatch. The gates ruin Oblivion…the same is true with Skyrim. As long as you do not go out and fight the first dragon (ok, second dragon if you count the tutorial level), the game is good since dragons ruin Skyrim.
 

Crocwrangler

Neo Member
All the following statements are true personal feelings, as a now quite old gamer that has been playing thousands of games.

. I greatly enjoyed The Last of Us 2. Scenario was okay, gameplay was really good.
. Dead Space 3 and its DLC were enjoyable too. Especially on zealot mode.
. My only reason for PC gaming is Impossible Creatures.
. The Witcher 3 inventory and combat system felt terribly annoying to me.
. Horizon Zero Dawn's open world was dull.
. Far Cry Primal was amazing.
. God of War PS4's was too short on bosses/had too many trolls, making it redundant very often.
. The Order 1886 shall have had a sequel for it to expand the interesting lore.
. Sea of Thieves is short on content long after its release (now better with PoC update).
. Gears 4 is the least interesting game of the series, Judgment and Tactics included.

Here it is. I stand by those affirmations even though i respect everyone's opinion. Apparently those were highly controversial based on the heated discussions i had so....
 

NikuNashi

Member
Every single Assassin's Creed is boring and I hate Ubisoft.

Naughty Dog are overrated, their gameplay is dull, repetative and large parts of their games annoying non interactive sequences.

Games as story telling or narrative is the worst use of games, anything non interactive should be cut from games, Nintendo have it right.
 

MagnesG

Banned
I can understand that for some, games that places great emphasis on cinematic experience is incredibly exciting. It's just not fun for me, like why am I wasting time watching movies here? And apparently wasting the resources on graphics and cinematic is even applauded and much easier to be handed GOTY because of the "production value", while the gameplay and pacing went into the backseat.

I don't understand the heavy cinematic input hours upon hours of walking simulators. It's akin to liking visual novels and calling it the best "game" ever. It's true in definition but seriously? You might as well release a movie and have an almost similar experience and enjoyment.
 

Thavash

Member
- Nintendo post SNES are shit
- Sony right now are borderline shit
- The Saturn is one of the best consoles ever
- and the Dreamcast too
- Western RPGs are more fun than JRPGs now
- I like FPS campaigns and dont play multiplayer shit
- Jedi Fallen Order was spoiler by the Tomb Raider style shit
- Gears of War is overrated shit with terrible gun play
 
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ZehDon

Gold Member
- Cyberpunk 2077 is probably the best game of the last generation, and it is easily the best written.
- The PS4 generation is the low point in the history of Sony's first party output.
- The vast majority of multiplayer games are pretty terrible games - they're just carried by the social aspect of gaming with friends.
- As a whole, Nintendo's output has gotten worse every generation since the Nintendo 64.
- Carmack was, and is, correct: story in games does not matter - and anyone who disagrees simply doesn't enjoy playing video games.
- JRPGs are generally pretty terrible; they peaked with FFVII.
 
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