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[Winter John]

You could also say "with all the problems Battlefield has, this is what they rather prioritize?"

No, I wouldn't say that. You know why I wouldn't say that? Because I'm not a media damaged fool who freaks out and starts blatting about wokes and sjws the minute I see anything mentioning gender or whatever. DICE didn't "prioritze" this. It would've taken them less than a minute to slap that label on. BF 2042 has a whole shit ton of problems that need to be called out. This ain't one of them

 

[YukiOnna]

Revives faster than what's already in? what? They made BF5 Medic speed standard though.

 

[jezhumphrey75]

I don‘t see the problem with the representation of all kinds of people in the game. It‘s set in the near future, so it makes sense ‍♂
In BF V it felt forced.

because its being brought up for no reason, its a mp shooter with no story, its not important yet they still drag it up.

 

[Concern]

No, I wouldn't say that. You know why I wouldn't say that? Because I'm not a media damaged fool who freaks out and starts blatting about wokes and sjws the minute I see anything mentioning gender or whatever. DICE didn't "prioritze" this. It would've taken them less than a minute to slap that label on. BF 2042 has a whole shit ton of problems that need to be called out. This ain't one of them

Yea.... Im not going back and forward with you. Going by your history, ree seems a better fit for you. Good day

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

A wise man once said - “Progressivism is a mental illness. It infects and corrupts everything it touches”.

Pre-order canceled. Seriously. Dice can go to hell. SJW’s can go to hell. Twitter can go to hell. Fuck their woke agenda.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

 

[SatansReverence]

Seriously with all the problems Battlefield has, this is what's got your panties in a bunch?

I would prefer they spend their time fixing their broken shit instead of spending hundred, if not thousands, of man hours in meetings trying to figure out how woke they can be.

 

[whyman]

I’ve never played much BF. What’s the difference between class and specialists please? Thx in advance!

You picked your own soldier or had a random one before.

Example: If I wanted to be a non binary amputee with Asperger's syndrome then it was not tied to a class.

 

[TGO]

One of the said Specialists revealed was Emma “Sundance” Rosier, which we can now confirm is a non-binary when it comes to gender.

 

[captainraincoat]

Sooo why does this shit get praise when far cry 6 has you pretty much killing women non stop?

 

[winjer]

The game has so many problems, and this is what they are focusing on!
EA and Dice are so out of touch with reality, it's mindboggling to watch.

 

[FrozenFlame]

I agree with the backlash in the last BF. There were no women in that era. It felt like some forced SJW shit.

But 2042? There very well could be non-binary people fighting. No news here, move on.

I agree. The army will eventually accept all these people for future warfare. It shall be named "Operation Meatshield".

 

[Neofire]

Oh boy why does a fictional character's sexuality in a FPS matter?

 

[nowifenolife]

I don't even know what that means tbh

neither do i, i think its best that way

 

[STARSBarry]

Oh boy why does a fictional character's sexuality in a FPS matter?

It might effect there kit, like they get a 20% damage Bonus to White Male specialists.

 

[Irobot82]

Uhm, ok.

This person has the wing suit right?

 

[Shmunter]

That’s pretty non gay and ultra modern contemporary. Gonna be a massive selling point, like ice to Eskimos

 

[Winter John]

Yea.... Im not going back and forward with you. Going by your history, ree seems a better fit for you. Good day

Of course you don't want to debate me. I know that. You ain't smart enough to debate me. That's why your trawling through my history. Now as far as I recall that seems to be something Resetera members do all the time when they want to get someone banned because they ain't got an answer for whatever dumb shit they believe in. Maybe you should beg them to unban you so you can be among your own kind.

 

[Winter John]

I would prefer they spend their time fixing their broken shit instead of spending hundred, if not thousands, of man hours in meetings trying to figure out how woke they can be.

"I would prefer they spend their time fixing their broken shit."

That's what I said.

"instead of spending hundred, if not thousands, of man hours in meetings trying to figure out how woke they can be."

It wouldn't have taken em more than a few minutes to slap a label on that character. Designing the character probably took a while. Still, if it makes some kid feel better about themselves then what's the harm. Players should be way more concerned abut all the bullshit they've got cooking. It seems pretty obvious the only reason they got these heroes or whatever the fuck they are is to monetize the fuck out of them.

 

[Concern]

Of course you don't want to debate me. I know that. You ain't smart enough to debate me. That's why your trawling through my history. Now as far as I recall that seems to be something Resetera members do all the time when they want to get someone banned because they ain't got an answer for whatever dumb shit they believe in. Maybe you should beg them to unban you so you can be among your own kind.

Lol more insults. Shows your level of intelligence. As I said, good day sir, ma'am, he, him, she, her, it, them, they or whatever you like calling yourself

 

[DustQueen]

Sometimes reading those kinda news make me walk towards the mirror and ask my self:

 

[Putonahappyface]

I just want this as dlc uniform and I'll be happy.

 

[nemiroff]

This was clearly exactly what the game needed, no wonder why it's in the middle of the focus instead of anything else.

Dice does it again, making games better one virtue signal at a time.

 

[Ammogeddon]

Stunning and brave.

Spoiler

I’ve never seen a virtue signal so on the nose as this

 

[kyussman]

Non-binary isn't a gender Dice......you silly sods.

 

[SatansReverence]

It wouldn't have taken em more than a few minutes to slap a label on that character.

 

[captainraincoat]

I just want this as dlc uniform and I'll be happy.

Klinger was doing it before it became a social status or required prerequisite for a resetera mod

 

[Hestar69]

I just want this as dlc uniform and I'll be happy.

MASH is one of my favorite shows if they did make a skin I would buy it lmao

 

[HTK]

Considering how broken BF2042 beta was they should just STFU and fix the game and not bring any attention to themselves.

 

[clarky]

Kids these days. I've got no idea as to where your imaginary avitar sticks their todger is relevant in a videogame( or doesn't in this case).

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Do we get this free on gamepass? there is no way I'm paying money for this hot garbage.

 

[Neofire]

I might effect there kit, like they get a 20% damage Bonus to White Male specialists.

Hell naw

 

[winjer]

Do we get this free on gamepass? there is no way I'm paying money for this hot garbage.

Just don't buy it at launch.
BF5 sold poorly at launch, so in a month, it was discounted at most places, selling for just 25$.
That's how I bought mine. Even at that price, it wasn't a good deal, because the game is a bit crap.
But at least I didn't pay full price.

 

[Dusktildawn48]

I cancelled my preorder, not just because of this, I was already very close to cancelling it after the beta but this was the last straw.

 

[CitizenZ]

Chappell did not lie when he said everyone in this room, on earth and throughout life's history ALL came from one place, a womans womb. I dont care what you want to call yourself, but there are only 2 genders and thats a life fact.

 

[RJMacready73]

Guarantee you some people will NOT be willing to play this game because of "shit" like this, and it'll be sad in either case

I'm sure Dice will lament the loss of literally dozens of dollars...

 

[Punished Miku]

The press cares, and it'll help them out in that one area.

 

[Sander Cohen]

Ha! Thanks EA, you just made it so easy to avoid this game like a plague. Already was leaning towards Vanguard and this just removes any lingering doubt.

I’m one of the people who appreciates great choice in gaming that we have today. You avoid offensive games like this one but don’t feel like you’re missing out because choice is so vast and time is limited. Gaming is really in great place today.

 

[MaKTaiL]

Ha! Thanks EA, you just made it so easy to avoid this game like a plague. Already was leaning towards Vanguard and this just removes any lingering doubt.

I’m one of the people who appreciates great choice in gaming that we have today. You avoid offensive games like this one but don’t feel like you’re missing out because choice is so vast and time is limited. Gaming is really in great place today.

Anybody considering Vanguard in place of any other game is already not right in the head.

 

[hlm666]

Revives faster than what's already in? what? They made BF5 Medic speed standard though.

Some info the other day after the beta some dice update said health regen was going to be slowed down in the final release to make the old lady more useful and her revive was going to be 50% faster and her darts will have some form of lock on. I'm not sure what class sundance is but I don't think the faster revive was specific to that hero, if there's more than 1 medic hero it probably applies to them all.

 

[Tschumi]

I'm sure Dice will lament the loss of literally dozens of dollars...

shoulda seen this forum 6 months ago it was oozing the kinda wankers who wouldn't touch this game for this

 

[Sander Cohen]

Anybody considering Vanguard in place of any other game is already not right in the head.

Why would that be? While beta wasn’t perfect, it was better than BF one. Shooting and moving feels great, like always. It was, at the end of the day, fun and now you have these options in how hectic you want it to be with different number of players. It’s clearly not MW ‘19 level but that will come next year.

And campaign just looks spectacular. I don’t know how and when Activision became so prolific with face animations and just cutscene graphics but I don’t think anyone is better at it at the moment. Not even Square Enix.

And sure, they have woman but Soviets did have deadly female snipers and sure, there’s a black guy but he looks badass.

I guess EA is significant number of levels above Activision in terms of wokeness right now. That could all change but that’s how things stand.

 

[GodLordPaddock]

Imagine focusing on this SJW garbage instead of fixing your trash game.

This will probably be the second Battlefield in a row I skip.

Atleast I got Insurgency.

 

[Fake]

Priorities. All problems get solved.

 

[McGILLAZ]

 

[MiguelItUp]

I honestly wish they never went the specialist route. We don't need characters with different personalities and quips. Especially back stories. We just want different classes to choose from.

I figured this was the case when I noticed Jackfrag's latest 2042 video when talking about Sundance.

This is the kind of stuff that doesn't feel natural to me. It just feels forced, and pandery.

 

[SJRB]

I honestly wish they never went the specialist route. We don't need characters with different personalities and quips. Especially back stories. We just want different classes to choose from.

I figured this was the case when I noticed Jackfrag's latest 2042 video when talking about Sundance.

This is the kind of stuff that doesn't feel natural to me. It just feels forced, and pandery.

Everybody wishes they never went with the specialists. It feels extremely out of place.

 

[veterangamerUK]

Well at least Resetera members will be having a circle jerk (no matter what sex) with this news

 

[winjer]

At this point is hard to comprehend what Dice is doing with battlefield.
The game has so many problems, from gameplay to technical issues. But they are focusing on creating characters with some sort of personality, on a multiplayer game.
And the worst part is that there are 5 of these characters, so every one on both teams are running identical models. Making it impossible to distinguish friend from foe, unless you look at the color of the dot on top of character.

Ubisoft did something similar with Rainbow Six Siege, but they had specialist unique to each side.
And each side could only pick one of each character.
This not only made each side unique, but also made each team to consider how synergies would apply.

But BF 2042, would need at least 64 unique specialists for each side. But that is obviously too much.
It would mean a lot of work to make so many unique specialists.
So they make each specialist available to all. Resulting in a cluster***k of identical soldiers in each side.

Ubisoft was able to make the specialist system work in RSS, and with it, sell micro-transactions.
EA and Dice wanted to copy the idea, but without the understanding of what makes it work in RSS.

 

[FUBARx89]

I couldn't give a shit, I'm not sure who gives a shit. It's a FPS online game.

I'm kinda hoping BF bombs tbh. Maybe DICE will pull their head out of their arses and bin off all this specialist crap and get rid of the Warzone-ness of it.