Physiognomonics
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They just unexplicably want to apply the one failing strategy. It can only be explained by the fact that they have being gaslighted by MS. Thing is, Sony can't spend tens of billions to spin their numbers the way MS does.
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Analysis: Playstation revenue is 44% higher than Xbox and ABK combined | 104% higher without ABK included.
They just unexplicably want to apply the one failing strategy. It can only be explained by the fact that they have being gaslighted by MS. Thing is, Sony can't spend tens of billions to spin their numbers the way MS does.
I admit these people have no fucking clue about what the media and the internet thinks about other consoles, the majority just operate with fixed mindset, with deep respect to all opinions it's the truth, even if it makes sense, these opinions 99 percent of the times won't reach the masses, it is what it is.
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MDSLKTR
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Brad is a shell, he usually skip xbox bad news but decided to change his tune recently, hard pass for me to watch his videos, you could tell there is a gap in the news he's delivering.
j0hnnix
Gold Member
damn colt you let yourself go.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Revenue?....
Jaybe
Member
If anything, rumors are Xbox may pull back on day one game pass to be like Sony… after Xbox trying to goad sony in years to do the same and tank Sony’s sales.
Not how that works. Acquisition cost for ABK isn’t added as a negative in the balance sheets. You’re converting cash on hand to an asset worth $70bn.
The loss is put on the books if the acquired asset loses a ton of value like what happened with Nokia.
Revenue difference seems easily explained by the significantly higher console sales (plus higher average selling price) and more first party software sales. But consoles hardware aren’t exactly a high margin product.
Between that, and the fact that Activision has consistently been very profitable, there’s no way to determine profitability from just comparing revenue figures.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That was so painfully transparent too. Down to their non PS owning influencers parroting the script.
BobLeeSwagger
Member
But their profits dropped
ChuckeRearmed
Member
So? I mean if you sell more consoles (with less discounts) and have a bigger user base your revenue will be bigger 
What is more fascinating that they are not making more profit since PS4 despite PS+ price increase, console price increase and game price increase.
What is more fascinating that they are not making more profit since PS4 despite PS+ price increase, console price increase and game price increase.
Badlucktroll
Member
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Possibly, but revenue isn't profit.
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Neofire
Member
Never said revenue was profit, obviously Sony did make a profit. The point of my post is to point put that they are moving the needle upward.
ZehDon
Gold Member
I believe the tweet is highlighting that the issues Microsoft are facing are also-sort-of-kinda being faced by Sony, to a much lesser degree. In terms of a platform holder position, we're seeing a ceiling of somewhere around 150 hardware units per console per generation. So as both a platform holder and a publicly traded company, Sony needs to find a way to increase their profits within that 150m install base. Services like PS Now were terrific in that regard, but it appears they've plateaued. GaaS was Ryan's next big play, because GaaS allows for infinite spending, but it looks like that's turning out to be much harder than originally thought. So, if Sony can't sell more games and services on its 150m install base, it can start selling its games and services on other hardware to increase profits. Microsoft started doing this as way to sell more games than their hardware allowed, and it seems to have worked well. Sony dipped their toes into the PC market, but failed to set the world on fire as the PC space doesn't take kindly to poorly made ports released at full price years late. So, Sony are now moving to more aggressively target PC, likely meaning proper multiplatform development for day 1 PC release, as a means to increase their profits. Microsoft are potentially expanding to even start selling older titles on competing hardware, like Sony's PlayStation, because they have the same problem: they can't increase profits on their own hardware - however, it's worth noting that Microsoft isn't hitting the 150m ceiling, they're just failing to sell their hardware in general, giving them fewer customers to sell to.
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RickMasters
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cool story….. now how much of that 
does any of us get ? If the answer is zero…. That is equal to the sum of the amount we should care.
But for the sake of console warring shits and giggles ….. fuck it. I’m effected and somehow offended by this…. Let’s have a console fight. C’mon let’s rumble then! I knew we couldn’t have peace for more day till tomorrow……
does any of us get ? If the answer is zero…. That is equal to the sum of the amount we should care.
But for the sake of console warring shits and giggles ….. fuck it. I’m effected and somehow offended by this…. Let’s have a console fight. C’mon let’s rumble then! I knew we couldn’t have peace for more day till tomorrow……
Mr Moose
Member
cool story….. now how much of that
But for the sake of console warring shits and giggles ….. fuck it. I’m effected and somehow offended by this…. Let’s have a console fight. C’mon let’s rumble then! I knew we couldn’t have peace for more day till tomorrow……
LordOcidax
Member
Add Nintendo to the comparison please.
Negotiator101
Member
What about Timdog?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
What about him?
Negotiator101
Member
But they don't want to?
Raonak
Banned
Probably didn't feel the need to. They were focusing more on growth.
I mean, they're still releasing big expansions like the GOW: valhalla, TLOU2 rougelike mode, and Ghost of Tsushima multiplayer for completely free. Which is kinda wild in this era.
Negotiator101
Member
Yeah but isn't thier problem this generation too much of a focus on live GaaS titles that simply haven't come to fruition? Just look at the mess they put Naughty Dog in, not one peak at a new title because of a massive fuck up with expanding the Factions multiplayer.
Mr Moose
Member
Fucking Bungie and their sabotage.
I don't even like 3rd person PvP so I am fine with it though.
Negotiator101
Member
Honestly you have in Naughty Dog a top 3 developer in the world and it's really difficult to understand why since the incredible TLOU2 they've only released remakes/remasters, or we've not had a glimpse of what they're cooking yet
Stuart360
Member
Dont really get some of the posts in here. I mean take off ABK and Sony's revenue is double, but there more than twice the PS5's over Sreries consoles in the wild, so isnt this what it should be?.
I mean you cant even use 'yeah but Xbox also has PC too' because i'm pretty sure Playstation has released more games on PC than Xbox the last few months.
I mean you cant even use 'yeah but Xbox also has PC too' because i'm pretty sure Playstation has released more games on PC than Xbox the last few months.
RickMasters
Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
you are forgetting mobile and all the samsung TVs
Mr.Phoenix
Member
There isnt any. He's a shill trying to push a false narrative. Likening Sony releasing games on PC (which both they are MS have been doing for years), like it's the same thing with Xbox releasing games on PlayStation.
If tomorrow goes like I think it will, you will start to see all kinds of spin.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
The benefits of sony's great dominance is that they can make billions from games like Genshin. Sony should be glad their AAA games are profitable in the first place.
Hoppa
Member
It’s for sure what they were intending for with the random push for live service games. Would be ugly to see how Helldivers does with MT sales and how that might even influence their first party singleplayer games
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Woopah
Member
We can get Sony's and Nintendo's profit numbers, but Microsoft doesn't release it publicly.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
100% true, but it's good to see this spelled out this way. Maybe the Playstation is DOOMED posts will stop now.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
How come this thread is only two pages? 
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So? I mean if you sell more consoles (with less discounts) and have a bigger user base your revenue will be bigger
Inflation has been a world wide thing since the year 2021. And interest rates have gone up in America. That eats into profits.
Correct. But there have been posters on GAF and MANY video game media people that said Microsoft isn't about the console game anymore and it's about engagement and being everywhere. And that GamePass is the solution and that's why they have been playing a different game.
So we are still waiting to see why that different game isn't generating revenue.
How come this thread is only two pages?
I think you know why......
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Oh, but of course! I just came here to see if the daily dose of PlayStation is failing because...I think you know why......
"the stock market dropped by 10B"
"they have no 1st Party games"
"they need to follow Microsoft's lead and port their shit"
...was present. Guess not.
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ZoukGalaxy
Member
That's... hilarious.
Xbox is really lost in their mind, they had everything to succeed during Xbox 360 era... then Xbox TV Kinect Sport One happened.
Xbox is really lost in their mind, they had everything to succeed during Xbox 360 era... then Xbox TV Kinect Sport One happened.
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crackajack
Member
Not surprising at all. Comes with selling about twice or in some areas even more consoles. Unless the average Xbox gamer would be vastly different than the PS gamer in their purchasing habits. In so far GP might have not really ruined the perceived value of games yet. Or Sony doing Plus too, might have made the same on their side.
I guess expanding or not removing your games from the market leader makes sense for current revenue and profits and also prepares to make more games exclusives again with next gen. ie Remember the good game you played on PS last gen? this is now only on XBoxNext. Minus whatever was agreed in the ABK acquisition.
I guess expanding or not removing your games from the market leader makes sense for current revenue and profits and also prepares to make more games exclusives again with next gen. ie Remember the good game you played on PS last gen? this is now only on XBoxNext. Minus whatever was agreed in the ABK acquisition.
iHaunter
Member
Xbox has been in heavy decline since XB1. They should switch fully to Software. Push the Cloud + GP. And make a decent handheld.
twilo99
Member
So.. not ded?
darrylgorn
Member
But 44% more than nothing is
How come this thread is only two pages?
I think you know why......
Because you didn’t post here until today?
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
That .....makes no sense.Because you didn’t post here until today?
But, we already knew the answer, as did you.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Despite spending $80+ billion?
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But, we already knew the answer, as did you.
Yeah. Half of the people who’d otherwise be posting here have spent months insisting revenue wasn’t important and profit was the only important measure.