Goalus
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It's already happened multiple times on Xbox. It's far more likely than not to happen again on Xbox.
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You are so sure of it.
I'll get back to you when their new big joint project is announced and we'll talk about your other opinions
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
FROM has properly (whatever the hell that means) been multiplatform long before Elden Ring
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I disagree. It really started with the release of Dark Souls 1. Yes, they were technically multiplatform way before, but mostly Playstation focused and definitely console focused. Now PC is one of their biggest income generators.
And how does it work for you?
You understand that the conditional Death Stranding is also Sony's property and Sony's game. It came out literally half a year later on PC after the release on PS4.
How does this stop making her a Sony game?
Or do I need to say that xbox does not have games, since all its projects go to the PC?
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Yeah, exactly, and they still partnered with Sony after that.
FROM has effectively no IP to their name and is a subsidary of a company Sony is already partnered with.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Nah, more like during that. Bloodborne development started in 2012. Since then every single big game was multiplatform. It's gonna stay that way.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Whatever you want to believe. Be a bit more open minded though. It'll help you emotionally when you end up being wrong.
TheGodfather07
Member
The fact that most people have no idea which games your talking about says it all. Failed ass games. Where as demons souls is literally the start of souls games and I don't need to mention the other exclusive. FROM is way more associated with PS than they are Xbox though that doesn't mean it's possible for them to work together. We still have rumours of a kojima xbox exclusive, which would be surprising.
TheGodfather07
Member
Hermen hulst mentioning FROM as a studio they will continue to work closely with gave it away and than all the PS Studios talking about elden ring. It's possible they have a new ip in the works. Sony are watertight on what's coming. All we know for 2023 is just spider-man 2. Most of their stuff hasn't been revealed yet.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
not at all, I am just stating that I believe Horizon will need to be released on its expected further platform to reach 20 million lifetime. We will see how it goes.
Ultimately, I believe Elden Ring will eclipse 20 million sales and it will do it before Horizon. This is just down to the hype for Elden Ring.
Goalus
Member
It's not a fact. You just made that up because it supports your narrative.
A fact is that From and MS have a long history together.
TheGodfather07
Member
Hold up. Doing a Google search to find out about this long successful history.
What is his narrative?
Even here on this forum, at least half of the people have no idea that From Software made Xbox games.
Do you know that dinosaurs existed?
Maybe remember some other historical facts that are a million years old?
TheGodfather07
Member
Are you serious! Everybody knows about murakumo and metal wolf chaos! 2 world renowned xbox exclusives by FROMSOFTWARE./s
Bernd Lauert
Banned
As I mentioned before, I expect them to make a PSVR2 exclusive. Not a mainline game though.
Goalus
Member
You conveniently left out Otogi 1 & 2 which are being sold for $20 each right now even though they're 20 years old.
Yes you Were. ‘PlayStation exclusive’ and ‘happened many times’. You’re referring to games that launched exclusively on PlayStation alone.
Best to clarify these things.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I do believe Sony may have locked in an exclusive before Elden Ring launched, but I do expect that no matter what it will have cost A LOT of money. Now the price would be HUGE.
I just dont think From Soft as a company would want to hold their games away from the PC fan base. I mean think about it, even with all the hype from the fanbase of Bloodborne it didn't sell incredibly well. I mean, I love the game and platinumed it but the only numbers we got were like 2.5 million. I'm sure its closer to 4 million or something now but thats not a big seller. From is used to hitting way over that with games like dark souls III and Sekiro...Elden ring will absolutely dwarf 5 million.
I suppose they could push the marketing as "from the creators of Elden Ring" but what would the game be after Elden Ring? going back to a traditional souls game like a bloodborne 2 would not be received as well I dont think.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Sony pays the salararies. Hundreds of million to keep it off PC. Fucking lol.
Their games are good for at least 5 million sales on PC these days, let alone a couple million on xbox. Someone’s got to pay for that.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Opportunity costs of literal hundreds of millions of dollars need to be paid too, though. Fucking lol indeed.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
It's funny as hell seeing the assumption that they're going to be able to keep repeating Elden Ring's success
Their next game is Armoured Core for christ sake. Good luck with that lol
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I lowkey think Armoured Core might be the PSVR2 game.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
It's another third person soulsy type of game. Very much doubt it's PSVR2
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VR mode at most but yeah, i don't think it is personally. I think its another multiplatform game as well. Had to double check who published the last one.
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TheGodfather07
Member
thats actually possible. could just be a smaller PSVR 2 game. i think theres alot of 3rd party exclusivity coming for sony because thats how they can counter the activision and bethesda deals. i think they wil make even more deals. especially with japanese publishers and studios.
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kingfey
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kingfey
Banned
What he fails to realize is that, the game has more fans, compared to horizon.
Open world users + hardcore users. All 3 big hit games fans will buy elden ring (gtav, skyrim, bow).
It already has 700k concurrent players on steam alone yesterday. Today at 04:00 utc, it had 594k concurrent users on steam. This is steam only, not xbox or Playstation.
Game is too big, and will cross 20m easily in 6 months.
Arun1910
Member
I don't think so. There is no genre crossover whatsoever here so you can't really draw a correlation between close Sony releases impacting each other. I'm not interested in GT at all so bought Horizon, I am sure many did the opposite.
kingfey
Banned
GT kinda need spit light. You can't talk about that game, if there is a bigger game in the town.
Titan fall 2 failed due to that.
So far, there was arceus, dying light 2, elden ring (2 of the most anticipated games), hfw. Then there is GT7. By the time we reached gt7, gamers were busy with other games. And so is gaming journalists.
ethomaz
Banned
Because one of the game is PlaySyation only.
So there is a need to create a flaw point for discussion.
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ethomaz
Banned
Just to be clear.
The concurrent players on Steam are for 2 hours if I’m not wrong… it is not exactly simultaneously. For example Steam shares this data each 2 hours at fixed times… 7:00, 9:00, 11:00, etc.
If you played the game between 7:01 and 9:00 for 10 minutes you will enter in be counted as concurrent players for this period.
That is why it was hard to compare number with Concurrent players done by hour or daily periods… though hour and 2-hours are closer than daily.
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MaxwellParrish
Member
Mario Kart released almost 2 month after BotW, and Breath was a day one title, when you are supposed to have more first party titles in different genres to launch nearly contemporanely to arouse interest from different audiences
'Properly multiplatform', what the fuck does that even mean? Bloodborne happened when Dark Souls was 'properly multiplatform'.
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kingfey
Banned
Its hourly. It records people who played the game at the same time, during that hour.
So if your account played the game in that 1 hour period, you are counted on.
As of now, it's 688k people playing at this hour.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
What it means is consistently releasing games on both consoles and PC. Bloodborne happened around the time Dark Souls 1 came out, their first proper multiplatform game.
Unknown?
Member
Hmmm GT Sport has outsold GT4 total, that's crazy. Also GT7 has sold faster than GT3 which was the best selling GT title.
www.gamesindustry.biz
What are the UK's biggest Gran Turismo games? | UK Time Tunnel
In the days before Horizon and God of War and Uncharted and Spider-Man, there was one first-party PlayStation franchise…
www.gamesindustry.biz
SLB1904
Banned
Having an online store helps as wellHmmm GT Sport has outsold GT4 total, that's crazy. Also GT7 has sold faster than GT3 which was the best selling GT title.
What are the UK's biggest Gran Turismo games? | UK Time Tunnel
In the days before Horizon and God of War and Uncharted and Spider-Man, there was one first-party PlayStation franchise…
ethomaz
Banned
Unless Steam changed it is 2 hours.
The data come from Steam API not these dumb sites.
If you look at the graph it is doing a median to get the 1 hour data and that is why it looks weird with spikes each 2 hours.
The URL (you need to pass the AppId): https://api.steampowered.com/ISteamUserStats/GetNumberOfCurrentPlayers/v1/
I will monitor late to see the period the number changes.
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kingfey
Banned
About - Steam Charts
An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most.
Here is steam chart info. It's hourly, not 2 hour.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
More people need to read this post of yours.
kingfey
Banned
People won't read it sadly, since it doesn't fit their views.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
| Another Century's Episode: R | PlayStation 3 | August 19, 2010 |
| Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn | PlayStation 3 | March 8, 2012 |
| Bloodborne | PlayStation 4 | March 24, 2015 |
| Déraciné | PlayStation 4 (PlayStation VR) | November 6, 2018 |
Exclusive From Software games on main PS consoles since 2010. Why not?
From Software have done over 38 exclusive games for Sony consoles in over 20 years...but out of nowhere that's impossible.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
We need to get people away from narratives and more into just reading the pure data.
kingfey
Banned
I wish. But don't like reading data. They just go off by headlines.
Its why each side here cheer, when those headlines swings to their side.
ethomaz
Banned
Like I said to
kingfey
I will update this post with the SteamAPI data for a interval of time to see how much it changes.
URL: https://api.steampowered.com/ISteamUserStats/GetNumberOfCurrentPlayers/v1/?appid=1245620 (yeap you can just put it on your Web Browser... no authentication needed... 1245620 is the Elden Ring AppId).
Times in GMT-3.
19:19 {"response":{"player_count":569054,"result":1}}
19:24 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:25 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:26 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:29 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:30 {"response":{"player_count":569276,"result":1}}
19:33 {"response":{"player_count":569276,"result":1}}
19:44 {"response":{"player_count":567875,"result":1}}
19:48 {"response":{"player_count":567875,"result":1}}
19:50 {"response":{"player_count":567316,"result":1}}
Finished.
Basically Steam updates that data each 5 minutes.
I was wrong about the 2 hours... and it is not 1 hour too.
kingfey
I will update this post with the SteamAPI data for a interval of time to see how much it changes.URL: https://api.steampowered.com/ISteamUserStats/GetNumberOfCurrentPlayers/v1/?appid=1245620 (yeap you can just put it on your Web Browser... no authentication needed... 1245620 is the Elden Ring AppId).
Times in GMT-3.
19:19 {"response":{"player_count":569054,"result":1}}
19:24 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:25 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:26 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:29 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:30 {"response":{"player_count":569276,"result":1}}
19:33 {"response":{"player_count":569276,"result":1}}
19:44 {"response":{"player_count":567875,"result":1}}
19:48 {"response":{"player_count":567875,"result":1}}
19:50 {"response":{"player_count":567316,"result":1}}
Finished.
Basically Steam updates that data each 5 minutes.
I was wrong about the 2 hours... and it is not 1 hour too.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Like I said to
URL: https://api.steampowered.com/ISteamUserStats/GetNumberOfCurrentPlayers/v1/?appid=1245620 (yeap you can just put it on your Web Browser... no authentication needed... 1245620 is the Elden Ring AppId).
Times in GMT-3.
19:19 {"response":{"player_count":569054,"result":1}}
19:24 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:25 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:26 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:29 {"response":{"player_count":569384,"result":1}}
19:30 {"response":{"player_count":569276,"result":1}}
19:33 {"response":{"player_count":569276,"result":1}}
19:44 {"response":{"player_count":567875,"result":1}}
Updating...
What's the point of this player count though?
ethomaz
Banned
It is shows the number of Steam players actually active in a determined App.
I'm trying to find in which interval Steam update that data.
Seems like 5 minutes.