GHG
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In which case people worrying about "expensive" consoles have directed their angst in the wrong places.
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Microsoft teases ultrapowerful next-gen Xbox — and maybe a handheld
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In which case people worrying about "expensive" consoles have directed their angst in the wrong places.
Portugeezer
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Phil maybe teases ditching AMD (his Lisa Su comment), I don't know if that matters in terms of raw power, weren't there rumours of next Xbox using the apple M chip sets or whatever?
HeisenbergFX4
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Not what I meant, 2 totally different machines
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
so what does that mean? Nvidia rtx 4090? Why are we so sure ARM=more powerful?
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DeepEnigma
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So another lowest common denominator spec that all games will have to run on. Joy!
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Bond007
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I wouldn't be spending top dollar on a Xbox anyway. Just a cross platform machine with game pass and no major exclusives-- said exclusives that will find themselves elsewhere anyway. So what's the point?
I feel like they are always looking for shortcuts to glory isntead of building what they do have. Build up the studios they have and growing the successful games in the stable- releasing them on a steady stream.
Buy everything up
Try to be the most powerful, biggest, baddest.
Ultimately it comes down to what games make your console stand out.
I feel like they are always looking for shortcuts to glory isntead of building what they do have. Build up the studios they have and growing the successful games in the stable- releasing them on a steady stream.
Buy everything up
Try to be the most powerful, biggest, baddest.
Ultimately it comes down to what games make your console stand out.
twilo99
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They don't have the engineering base to pull that off so I very much doubt that.
They have to rely on Qualcomm for all things ARM...
Mr Moose
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Richard Leadbetters favourite word.
HeisenbergFX4
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ManaByte
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It’s why the surface team is making it.
Crispy Gamer
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After Series X I don't believe them but if it launch with Gears I'm day 1
twilo99
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They do it mainly to mess with playstation fanboyz
VolticArchangel
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Sarah said largest leap ever in terms of perf.
Xbone to Series X, in sheer FP32 numbers is 9.2X, despite being different architectures and RDNA2 has a massive gains over Polaris/GCN.
Just to get the message across to the layman, it's at least 9.2X or more, let's round it off at 10X.
120 TFLOPS ZEN5 + RDNA5, with architectural gains and efficiency, and this sounds like a pipe dream on an alien planet if the target for this console is $500.
HeisenbergFX4
please tell me my math is wrong and I can go back to sleep. 
Xbone to Series X, in sheer FP32 numbers is 9.2X, despite being different architectures and RDNA2 has a massive gains over Polaris/GCN.
Just to get the message across to the layman, it's at least 9.2X or more, let's round it off at 10X.
120 TFLOPS ZEN5 + RDNA5, with architectural gains and efficiency, and this sounds like a pipe dream on an alien planet if the target for this console is $500.
HeisenbergFX4
please tell me my math is wrong and I can go back to sleep.
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Unknown?
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Not with the next Switch released.
DeepEnigma
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
A valid point compared to the showing!
twilo99
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Right, and have you used any of their ARM based machines? Far cry from Apple's chips and overall performance.
phant0m
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10X power, but my games still only run 30fps in “quality” mode.Sarah said largest leap ever in terms of perf.
Xbone to Series X, in sheer FP32 numbers is 9.2X, despite being different architectures and RDNA2 has a massive gains over Polaris/GCN.
Just to get the message across to the layman, it's at least 9.2X or more, let's round it off at 10X.
120 TFLOPS ZEN5 + RDNA5, with architectural gains and efficiency, and this sounds like anpipe dream on an alien planet if the target for this console is $500.
and if they do it right, the console will be at least $800, not 500. Gimme them frames, Phil!
VAVA Mk2
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Hawking Radiation
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Mobile phones are a necessity.
Video game consoles are not.
So for your $999 console...
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
120 TFs?Sarah said largest leap ever in terms of perf.
Xbone to Series X, in sheer FP32 numbers is 9.2X, despite being different architectures and RDNA2 has a massive gains over Polaris/GCN.
Just to get the message across to the layman, it's at least 9.2X or more, let's round it off at 10X.
120 TFLOPS ZEN5 + RDNA5, with architectural gains and efficiency, and this sounds like a pipe dream on an alien planet if the target for this console is $500.
Physiognomonics
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Here we go again. Now that PS5 Pro is soon to be released the most powerful console propaganda from MS has started and all the usual suspects are soon going to follow the Spencer Script. Like clockwork.
Soon they are going to hype plenty of new features x and true RDNAy that will be a technological leap compared to PS5 Pro. You just watch.
Coloress_Kafka
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My phone does everything from order me food to get bitches in my bed to fuck. It earns that $1300 I drop on it every two years, a console just plays games, it isn’t even remotely as usable.
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Cyberpunkd
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4x leap and games will still look mostly the same.
VolticArchangel
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120 TFs?
Can you throw a number or probably a range? 40-50'ish maybe?
Syphon Filter
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a console doesn't just play games these days.
Sanepar
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Even if u consider the new fake tflops from rdna3 and Ada 2x 120tflops is impossible, Considering real tflops rdna2 I would say 30-40 tflops rangeSarah said largest leap ever in terms of perf.
Xbone to Series X, in sheer FP32 numbers is 9.2X, despite being different architectures and RDNA2 has a massive gains over Polaris/GCN.
Just to get the message across to the layman, it's at least 9.2X or more, let's round it off at 10X.
120 TFLOPS ZEN5 + RDNA5, with architectural gains and efficiency, and this sounds like a pipe dream on an alien planet if the target for this console is $500.
Edgelord79
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But this time it’s different. They really mean it!
Nah id rather have access and play the xbox 3rd party library on the go compared to anything nintendo 1st party might offer. I'll still get both though.
HeisenbergFX4
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Good numbers here by
Sanepar
IF they can make their early hopes of beating PS6 by a couple of years by not having a pro launching
saintjules
Member
Agree. But to play devil's advocate, People that are paying phones in the higher price ranges are paying them in installments, - built into their phone plans.
You can't really do that with a PS5. Xbox they kind of did that with their Xbox All Access service. So I think if they plan to make these Consoles more expensive, they may have to introduce payment plans at that point. But I personally don't see price points this high anytime soon. At least not with next-gen.
For sure. I'm definitely more confident ms can reach those performance goals compared to what switch 2 has in store along with not having to wait for ports.
Mister Wolf
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For them. Numbers don't lie.
To fulfill this statement, there would have to be something "special" that would push current technology to another level. The only thing I can think of is the hybrid use of physical hardware, AI and cloud computing. Which is precisely what was seen in the leaked roadmap.
We will see when the time comes. The news is that there will be a new generation of XBOX consoles (which is something that has broken many illusions here
) and it seems that they are going to go back to betting on another "traditional" generation?
Also interesting is the announcement that hardware news will be announced at the end of the year. This has broken me bet a little. It is too late to announce a revision/slim XSX and also for the announcement of Sebile control. What could it be like for an XBOX handheld? or an XSXPRo? It would coincide with the dates of the announcement of XBO
We will see when the time comes. The news is that there will be a new generation of XBOX consoles (which is something that has broken many illusions here
) and it seems that they are going to go back to betting on another "traditional" generation?Also interesting is the announcement that hardware news will be announced at the end of the year. This has broken me bet a little. It is too late to announce a revision/slim XSX and also for the announcement of Sebile control. What could it be like for an XBOX handheld? or an XSXPRo? It would coincide with the dates of the announcement of XBO
TheUndeadGamer
Member
So no 2026 console. Makes sense.
New hardware reveal this holiday, so 2026 was always out of the question.
existensmaximum
Member
This. Also, people rarely pay for mobile phones cash. Apples to oranges.Mobile phones are a necessity.
Video game consoles are not.
So for your $999 console...
Gudji
Member
I'm mostly excited to see Xbox Velocity Architecture 2.0
DenchDeckard
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it’s baffling to me that Phil Spencer has managed to lead two utter failures of generations in a row now (this one he’s entirely responsible for) yet is being given yet another chancedo they really think third time’s going to be the charm under this existing leadership group?
Is playstation 5 a failure if it sells less than ps4?
graywolf323
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that’s quite the take, right now PS5 is doing similar numbers as PS4
meanwhile Xbox One sold significantly less than the Xbox 360 and it’s not looking good for Xbox Series to even match Xbox One, how can you consider the performance of the hardware sales under Spencer’s watch as to be anything less than a failure coming off the Xbox 360? Xbox One did not do poorly sales-wise out of the gate so it’s not like he was in even as bad of a situation as the PS3 started off against the 360