VolticArchangel
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Satya Nadella talks about the future of Xbox and multiplatform: "We are very happy with what's going on in gaming"
Killjoy-NL
Member
Playstation, Nintendo and PC are all that's needed.
In fact, one could argue that's pretty much the case already.
Skifi28
Member
People really like to misquote that. Read that entire statement again.
havoc00
Member
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
They were not able to have satisfying results with home console market so instead of going to do something else, they are changing our industry and taking it down with them as they transfer to doing something else.
They lost and are changing the industry in a way to maximise profit. Services and gaas. It’s bad in a long term for games.
And of course that would say they look to the future and that classic gone console is going away because they lost in the present.
And all I want is classic home consoles with physical media and normal games. That’s it. Just continue the industry as it was created and why we love it. Like Nintendo with some faults even.
I mean it’s a game console and games business. They could both probably make more money doing real estate or selling cars if they are not happy with revenue. Changing whole industry because they can squeeze more money is just scummy
They lost and are changing the industry in a way to maximise profit. Services and gaas. It’s bad in a long term for games.
And of course that would say they look to the future and that classic gone console is going away because they lost in the present.
And all I want is classic home consoles with physical media and normal games. That’s it. Just continue the industry as it was created and why we love it. Like Nintendo with some faults even.
I mean it’s a game console and games business. They could both probably make more money doing real estate or selling cars if they are not happy with revenue. Changing whole industry because they can squeeze more money is just scummy
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bender
What time is it?
MrTired
Member
They absolutely would reject that because Playstation wants it customers to not feel some type of way about buying games. Especially a game like CoD that generates the revenue it does. It's the reason they rejected Microsoft offer of putting CoD in PS plus day and date if Sony offer enough money. All those other subscriptions available on the Playstation platforms offer there back catalogue because Playstation is cognisant of effects of subscription have on the value of the product.
Microsoft is potentially bring more of its games to other platforms because it needs immediate ROI after all these investments it made and your talking about making it games exclusively to Gamepass. There by destroying the value of the assets whilst pissing away Billions in revenue, SMDH.
Microsoft doesn't have the leverage you think it does, Nintendo aren't dependent on Activision one bit so wouldn't be losing anything monetarily and PlayStation whilst definitely feeling the loss of the 30% cut would be in a much better position than the company who loses 70% whilst cost of the game remains the same and the majority of the people in it's ecosystem access it via a subscription at no additional cost. The math ain't mathing.
Bingo that's literally what it is. Gamepass was a play to attract people who weren't in ecosystem who built backlog in another ecosystem. They wanted to reduce the friction between switching consoles. By offering people there entire catalogue, which as a whole didn't sell much for a low monthly fee.
In hopes they would capture a significant share of there competition audience, who would make up the lost revenue from there lack of 1st party sales from subs, mtx and third party games bought.
Iced Arcade
Member
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
They are done with console. They want their games everywhere like all phones, pc, devices and CLOUD.
and stupid Sony will follow them without fucking realizing that there is no money there if they don’t have Microsoft money.
Just be like Nintendo. Confident and content in a classic model people want.
I've seen this a lot but I've never known the context. Cocaine?Nadella is low energy we need big dick MS energy back with Ballmer
havoc00
Member
windows 95 launch aka the money dance
Osaka_Boss
Member
Time for SEGA to come back
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Ehhh. Not all people. Less boxes under my tv, the better.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
He said xbox consoles! That's me happy.
I say go for it. Make even more bank, that's what a business is there to do. Just give me my option to buy an xbox and keep pushing that hardware.
If they truly aren't bothered about console sales. Make me a 799 xbox that has 3d cache and a beastly gpu. Allow those that want a beefy xbox console to get it. Stop competing with Sony and what those console buyers think is the right budget, push a higher end option for thise willing to pay and sell 10 million of them.
I say go for it. Make even more bank, that's what a business is there to do. Just give me my option to buy an xbox and keep pushing that hardware.
If they truly aren't bothered about console sales. Make me a 799 xbox that has 3d cache and a beastly gpu. Allow those that want a beefy xbox console to get it. Stop competing with Sony and what those console buyers think is the right budget, push a higher end option for thise willing to pay and sell 10 million of them.
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DJ12
Member
Nice of him to admit they don't currently make great games.Meanwhile, the statement:
"We think that now, we have the ability to really do what we've always set out to do, which is to build great games and deliver them to folks on all platforms."
If this really is the announcement of third party then they will still fail at gaming if they think other console owners are going to buy the stuff they've shoveled out for gamepass recently.
Killjoy-NL
Member
There's one thing we know for sure:
This tweet will sell a lot more PS5s.
This tweet will sell a lot more PS5s.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
which is Xbox and consoles, the PCs, and now even including mobile gaming and cloud gaming
xbox and consoles?
so xbox is not a console...............
interesting statement
xbox and consoles?
so xbox is not a console...............
interesting statement
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Microsoft isn't the company pushing gaas games. The industry is. Even Sony are...or were....these companies will make what works. If people don't buy gaas games, Microsoft or Sony won't make them.
Simple. There's nothing to worry about, if the buyers don't want gaas games. If the people do, then that's a different problem you need to get your head around
Unknown Soldier
Member
Satya trying to talk about video games:
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
He's a clever lad this Satya. Very clever.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Its far from over. Watch as MS teams up with someone who wants into the console business.........(hint it has a apple logo).......and they just happen to make thier own ARM based chip......hmmm.......
Or ms could release it's own hybrid handheld still, at a very competitive price. Maybe they take the Nintendo route, one system, who cares if it's powerfull.
March Climber
Member
Very vague wording in that clip. I think that they will continue the Xbox console line, but go the Nintendo route in terms of hardware. Cut back on the bleeding edge specs that are sold at a loss, but keep the console line as set spec boxes for cheap, to sell to casual audiences who want to get into the ecosystem, much like the surface tablets/laptops.
They might even try to create a Steam Deck competitor or team up with Asus ROG/Lenovo Legion so that their portable windows experience can try to measure up better to other portable consoles. They will most likely try to finally merge the Xbox/Windows into one easy to use adaptable OS to accomplish this.
MS is a software company first and foremost, and I think they just want people using their software regardless of what does or doesn't work. The circle has been closing in on them when it comes to intuitive portable experiences like iOS and android, and they can't rely solely on AI to bail them out.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I feel 100 percent confident they are sticking in the hardware space. It just makes sense for them. Especially since the apple and epic news. You need your own marketplace and platform for the US.
Satya doing what he does best. The ftc are still on microsofts back about Activision and Microsoft want it to close and fuck off.
Start acting like you are third party, sit there and answer all the gamers questions in this vague way a month from now....ftc get shut down by a judge who sees this stuff and thinks MS are going full third party.
Start looking to release your games on any platform that will have gamepass or xbox accounts....if Sony shut it down, send the messaging down to the shills that Microsoft wanted to out gears collection on playstation but big bad Sony said no. Social media catch on, fireworks
It's typical Microsoft approach we have seen for years. They are clever with this stuff, to get what they want. They will push to get their os, or their xbox platform wherever it can go. They want MAUs. Sony are free to say no, but they will absolutely be negotiating to try and get the best deal for them. We will see how badly they want it.
If games launch on playstation with no xbox sign In, we can see how desperate they were to make money of software sales alone.
Satya doing what he does best. The ftc are still on microsofts back about Activision and Microsoft want it to close and fuck off.
Start acting like you are third party, sit there and answer all the gamers questions in this vague way a month from now....ftc get shut down by a judge who sees this stuff and thinks MS are going full third party.
Start looking to release your games on any platform that will have gamepass or xbox accounts....if Sony shut it down, send the messaging down to the shills that Microsoft wanted to out gears collection on playstation but big bad Sony said no. Social media catch on, fireworks
It's typical Microsoft approach we have seen for years. They are clever with this stuff, to get what they want. They will push to get their os, or their xbox platform wherever it can go. They want MAUs. Sony are free to say no, but they will absolutely be negotiating to try and get the best deal for them. We will see how badly they want it.
If games launch on playstation with no xbox sign In, we can see how desperate they were to make money of software sales alone.
March Climber
Member
This would be like some alternate earth where Superman and Lex Luthor become best friends and rule earth together, making Brainiac the hero.
I agree with this possibility however, and I think it's highly likely MS does this or teams up with Legion Go/ROG Ally.
Regardless they need to fix their portable interfaces so that they are much, much better and less resource heavy than what they currently are now.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
‘We want to do our very best work in gaming, it’s a core business for us’
Was the quote.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Race to the bottom
DJ12
Member
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Oh, we just twisted it a little bit to make it about Xbox, instead of "gaming" to pretend that Xbox is still a big deal for Microsoft, and they aren't thinking from a broader "gaming" perspective that an all-platform gaming publisher would. No big deal.
SCB3
Member
Yea I could see that as well, they'd probably make a lot of money doing that as well
Negotiator101
Member
No chance, Satya is a visionary much like Spencer and when they talk about gaming they're talking about the future of gaming and where its headed. The here and now is a very different landscape and Microsoft are first and foremost building Gamepass on Xbox and PC.
CoreyFlawless
Member
Until he say PlayStation or Nintendo. Not holding my breath for it
StueyDuck
Member
i miss clever xbox, arrogant MS sucked, just buying all studios for consolidation sucks.
i miss them forcing Sonys hand for cross-play, forcing Sony and Nintendo to improve their Online offerings.
Without XBL and XBGG we wouldn't have PS+ or Nintendo Switch Online. Without gamepass (and EA play to be fair) we wouldn't have PS + Premium or Ubisoft +.
That's the Microsoft/Xbox that i miss, the ones who innovated and forced their competitors to get with the times.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Tim Stuart, the CFO, who was sitting beside Satya in this interview, has already name-dropped the two consoles in a previous interview:
"It's a bit of a change of strategy. Not announcing anything broadly here, but our mission is to bring our first-party experiences and our subscription services to every screen that can play games," Stuart said. "That means smart TVs, that means mobile devices, that means what we would have thought of as competitors in the past like PlayStation and Nintendo."
MrTired
Member
Ps plus existed prior to Games for Gold being a thing, in fact it was a direct response to PS plus. However I get your premises of what your saying.
Zheph
Member
They also introduced:
- paying for online play
- paying for dlc
- RROD
a real blessing
I find it hilarious that people are preaching Microsoft's exit from hardware business.
I mean. I'm sure Good Guy Sony® will make sure that their next console will be priced "competitively" (when there is no competition left) and I'm sure they won't have any reason to raise prices of PlayStation Plus again and prices of their first party games.
Jesus. People are just delusional.
But whatever. It would be funny when people will wait for Xbox first-party games on other platform in same way they are waiting for Microsoft's exit from console hardware business. "Any time now" since 2014
"The year is 2032 and I'm sure this will be year when Indiana Jones will finally come to PS5"
I mean. I'm sure Good Guy Sony® will make sure that their next console will be priced "competitively" (when there is no competition left) and I'm sure they won't have any reason to raise prices of PlayStation Plus again and prices of their first party games.
Jesus. People are just delusional.
But whatever. It would be funny when people will wait for Xbox first-party games on other platform in same way they are waiting for Microsoft's exit from console hardware business. "Any time now" since 2014
"The year is 2032 and I'm sure this will be year when Indiana Jones will finally come to PS5"
yanhash
Member
To be fair, xbox was always marketed as the dude bro mountain dew console
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Don't worry.I find it hilarious that people are preaching Microsoft's exit from hardware business.
I mean. I'm sure Good Guy Sony® will make sure that their next console will be priced "competitively" (when there is no competition left) and I'm sure they won't have any reason to raise prices of PlayStation Plus again and prices of their first party games.
Jesus. People are just delusional.
But whatever. It would be funny when people will wait for Xbox first-party games on other platform in same way they are waiting for Microsoft's exit from console hardware business. "Any time now" since 2014
"The year is 2032 and I'm sure this will be year when Indiana Jones will finally come to PS5"
If Xbox games will be released on PlayStation they will directly compete with Sony 1st party and their mediocrity will become even more obvious.
Killjoy-NL
Member
There will always be people port-begging on any platform.Yup. They are so mediocre that people are port-begging for them
It's mostly the idea of Xbox games being available on Playstation/Nintendo. If people really wanted Xbox exclusives, Xbox would be successful. But they're irrelevant.
And like I said, if such a scenario, Xbox games mediocrity will become painfully obvious.
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Yes. That's why most played and best selling games on PlayStation are FIFA, Fortnite and Call of Duty. Because "people wants exclusives"