Thick Thighs Save Lives
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It's now being reported by The Verge so the leaks are legit.
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Next Generation Xbox early details have leaked - Release planned for 2028, Cloud-Hybrid games, Looking into the possibility of switching to ARM
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It's now being reported by The Verge so the leaks are legit.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
So how many Tittyflops can this system do?
killatopak
Gold Member
Cloud has returned and it’s back with a vengeance.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
I think they'll be using a compatibility layer; it should be performant enough for full speed BC.
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
Always Online Mach2
They have a lot of stuff developed to deploy x86 binaries on ARM. Apple's Rosetta 2 is very performant aswell, so it can certainly be done.
twilo99
Member
No matter how good it is, there is always going to be a performance loss, and that’s bad for gaming especially when you consider that the hardware is already relatively weak.
Their ARM efforts are very poor so far, especially compared to Apple… now, if Apple said this I’d be more excited, but hopefully they stick to AMD.
supernova8
Banned
Where did you get this from exactly?
Goes without saying but literally anybody could conjure up slides like this with PowerPoint alone.
No more credible than those photos of livestream details taken at potato resolution from a weird angle. No spelling mistakes doesn't automatically give it credibility (but helps of course
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Goes without saying but literally anybody could conjure up slides like this with PowerPoint alone.
No more credible than those photos of livestream details taken at potato resolution from a weird angle. No spelling mistakes doesn't automatically give it credibility (but helps of course
)
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March Climber
Member
The industry is now ready for it.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Purple forum. It should go up on gaming news outlets any minute now.Where did you get this from exactly?
Goes without saying but literally anybody could conjure up slides like this with PowerPoint alone.
No more credible than those photos of livestream details taken at potato resolution from a weird angle. No spelling mistakes doesn't automatically give it credibility (but helps of course
Edit: Already up on vgzcharts: https://www.vgchartz.com/article/458499/next-generation-xbox-early-details-have-leaked/
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Salty Popsicle
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Microsoft engineers were able to get PowerPC architecture (Xbox 360) games to run at improved frame-rates and native resolutions on x86 architecture (Xbox One - current).
If anyone can switch to ARM and continue the backwards compatibility it would be them.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Team Andromeda
Member
It be nice to see consoles going back to a separate CPU and CPU and leave the SOC
ZehDon
Member
Translation layer should resolve that with minor over-head. ARM isn't an insane proposition given Microsoft's prior works.
I'm not seeing the source for this information, though?
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
There's no way they will release a revised XSX in 2024 and then have no new hardware for 4 years until the start of next-gen. That is simply too large a gap.
I would bet on a "Pro" console between Fall 2025 and Spring 2026 to hold over until the true successor in 2028.
I would bet on a "Pro" console between Fall 2025 and Spring 2026 to hold over until the true successor in 2028.
supernova8
Banned
FUCKING HELL
Yeah I just downloaded the PDF and opened the attachment with Foxitreader... it's all there.
This is fuckin huge.
Most bizarre thing is that if we didn't have the receipts I'd automatically assume the slides are all fake. They somehow look fake.
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March Climber
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Microsoft sees it. It’s why they’re pushing so hard towards gamepass. Sony buckled afterwards and Nintendo has been on the verge of slowly changing too. PC gamers don’t even care anymore since Steam is everything to them.
I don’t think we’re ready for the full cloud experience(like Stadia) but a future without discs is quickly approaching.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Without discs and having games not work without internet are two very different things.
I can see an argument for the former getting closer, but not the latter.
March Climber
Member
The former leads to the latter.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
AAA games are already releasing that have no physical version available. Look at Alan Wake 2. I expect most new titles to forgo physical options altogether within the next 5 years.
zeldaring
Banned
Amd making their own version of dlss?
unlurkified
Member
Whenever they force playing games off the cloud is when I’m out. Don’t care how low the latency gets.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Not for single player games.
Digital games have been around for 20 years?
March Climber
Member
I hope future history proves that you are right. Looking at today’s landscape I worry it won’t.
xrnzaaas
Member
Chances are Alan Wake 2 won't sell very well just like the first game. So it may not be a perfect test for the industry to see if they can get away with no retail versions in bigger releases.
In my opinion the publishers will try to make the physical editions more 'limited' (like only xxxxx copies worldwide). They will be able to charge more money for them, keep the illusion of being the good guys and keep pushing for digital-only future.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Love that this stuff is leaking!
How good is this, to see inside information.
How good is this, to see inside information.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
I recently played the first game and really enjoyed it but yeah I have no need to play Alan Wake 2 right away. I'll just wait for a sale. The first game was good but suffered from lots of issues
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
AI-powered Cloud games.
Robb
Gold Member
SodaZA
Member
Don't they already?
Its called FSR 2 i think
zeldaring
Banned
Fsr doesn't use ai like nvda. the one for the next Xbox uses ai. That's why nvda does a better job.
damiank
Member
Those games are recompiled to run at x86.
mrMUR_96
Member
Most of those game release dates are wrong lmao, this is so fake.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
The slides are real, they were mistakenly added as attachments to the FTC doc. Now that some of the info is outdated; that's entirely someting else.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
It different kind of brain or think space for computer box. Apple computer box recently now Arm brain, no more intel. It very successful.
Computer box need stories to be written in different words for Arm brain to understand quickly but it still understand stories written for other brains with help but it take longer which mean slower flashing on light box.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
twilo99
Member
That is true, but they still need an efficient GPU..
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Nvidia or qualcomm
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Not fake. Just outdated because of constant delays.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Big outlets like The Verge have started reporting this news as well:
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Here: https://files.cand.uscourts.gov/files/23-cv-02880_FTC_v_Microsoft/PX7011 (Redacted).pdf
Look through the attachments of the FTC doc. There's tons of mails and various presentation slides.
Here's the relevant attachment for the stuff I've reported in the OP: EX PX1022
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