That is not how it works. Sony gets 30% cut.So in other words 6 year's worth of cod gives them the revenue to buy someone like Bungie.
You genuinely don't think Sony had better bargaining chips at the end of March after the CMA block (plus the FTC suing to block in December prior), than they do today with whatever they signed with Microsoft?
Again, they wouldn't have gotten a 10-year deal back in March, because they wouldn't be making a deal with Microsoft. It'd of been with ABK. And Sony could have locked Game Pass Day 1 possibility out of the picture with a renegotiated deal compared to what they have ended up with in effect now.
James Sawyer Ford this is what I was worried about man
Sounds like the deal got worse from what they were originally offered. Sony overplayed their hand badly.
I was assuming the 800m figure is the annual cut Sony actually got.That is not how it works. Sony gets 30% cut.
what they are getting is 1.5b sales of COD on their platform. 450m goes to Sony.
It will take them 8 years to recoup that cost. Or use that money to buy timed exclusive games.
Yes : )So this deal is all about "looking forward to a future where players globally have more choice to play their favorite games?" Right?
People have been saying this for decades and these larger companies continue to grow exponentially. Sadly there's no cap on how much a single company can grow...they could easily be worth 5 trillion dollars in 2030. Which isn't good for anyone but their investors.MS is so large that it becomes harder to grow
They could see their stock go nowhere for the next decade plus like it did in 2000-2012, and if that happens there will be less appetite for wasteful non essential spending
There is no good reaction on this other then to laugh...
...how Sony overplayed their hand in attempt to block this deal and how it now bites them in the ass
Mmm yes and no. but mostly no.There is no good reaction on this other then to laugh...
...how Sony overplayed their hand in attempt to block this deal and how it now bites them in the ass
...how Sony made it entirely about Call of Duty while ABK has more games to care about.
It will give Microsoft a strategic choice what to do with future ABK titles. I expect live services to being released on PlayStation in the future... Games like Diablo IV, Overwatch 2 etc. But games like new Crash, that RPG Infinity Ward is making...that would probably end up being exclusives.
People have been saying this for decades and these larger companies continue to grow exponentially. Sadly there's no cap on how much a single company can grow...they could easily be worth 5 trillion dollars in 2030. Which isn't good for anyone but their investors.
Good economy does that and unregulated child birth.People have been saying this for decades and these larger companies continue to grow exponentially. Sadly there's no cap on how much a single company can grow...they could easily be worth 5 trillion dollars in 2030. Which isn't good for anyone but their investors.
Now’s a good time to buy an Xbox : )
Just remember. This is the ultimate winner, consumers are not winning anything here .
Theres a chance in the short term they'll have ups and downs, but outside of a global changing events that impacts the whole economy the larger companies are "too big to fail" at this point. Betting on MS being at least 1.5x its value by 2030 is as safe of a bet as the sun rising tomorrow...which isn't a good thing for anyone but their investors again.Markets go through cycles. In the 1960s it was the nifty fifty stocks. Many of them are irrelevant today.
Sure, they could be worth 5 trillion. Or they could be worth roughly the same market cap they are today with far less of a valuation due to lowered growth prospects.
You hardly see the same top 10 companies in one decade persist into the next.
Sounds like the deal got worse from what they were originally offered. Sony overplayed their hand badly.
Sounds like the deal got worse from what they were originally offered. Sony overplayed their hand badly.
Theres a chance in the short term they'll have ups and downs, but outside of a global changing events that impacts the whole economy the larger companies are "too big to fail" at this point. Betting on MS being at least 1.5x its value by 2030 is as safe of a bet as the sun rising tomorrow...which isn't a good thing for anyone but their investors again.
This is objectively bad for the industry at large, absolutely agree with you.Ah, yes, the narrative for the past 20 months has been that this deal is VERY bad for *consumers and the **industry at large.
* excluding all xbox and PC gamers who directly benefit from this deal. Excluding gamepass subscribers. Excluding Nintendo players. WE DO NOT talk about these people under any circumstances.
** industry = Sony's PlayStation division.
How did it bite them in the ass?
They got 10 years of CoD
Original offer was just through the marketing window. Then another 3 years.
Sony got essentially the best deal they could absent the deal being completely blocked. Activision doesn't make anything other than CoD.
How did it bite them in the ass?
They got 10 years of CoD
Original offer was just through the marketing window. Then another 3 years.
Sony got essentially the best deal they could absent the deal being completely blocked. Activision doesn't make anything other than CoD.
Jim Ryan is pathetic. It makes me so sad to see Playstation on his hands.
This is legit one of the best comedies i have ever seen, espescially the extended cut, and the insane special features on the blu ray
Putting CoD on PS+ Day 1 would be enormously expensive. Sony doesn't have any better bargaining chips with Activision as an independent company.
What do they have other than CoD? Basically nothing worth caring about
This is legit one of the best comedies i have ever seen, espescially the extended cut, and the insane special features on the blu ray
Which movie it is, please ?
Do you think Bobby is hands off?they are prob going to be hands off like with bethesda.
CoD is dying anyway so there is nothing to worry about
CoD is dying anyway so there is nothing to worry about
Sony has 10 years to sunset PlayStation then. I think 70% of Sony's revenues today are not from PS anyways, so winding that business down over 10 years can be done with some planning.
They also have 10 years to try and get acquired now too. It's a long runway for them to find survival strategies before their lease on CoD runs out.
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They also have 10 years to try and get acquired now too. It's a long runway for them to find survival strategies before their lease on CoD runs out.
CoD is dying anyway so there is nothing to worry about
Nah, I'll be sticking with PlayStation. I would gladly buy a console made by Tencent over getting an Xbox, and I'll even wave the Chinese Communist flag and buy Xi Jinping's book if Tencent manages to become Xbox's primary competitor if/when Sony ever exits the console hardware space. I'm also saying this as a citizen of the United States, as I have no care for concepts like nationalism or patriotism.Now’s a good time to buy an Xbox : )
Twitter was a mistake:
A renegotiated deal with ABK, IMO, would not have been about COD in PS+ Day 1, but preventing Microsoft from doing Day 1 in Game Pass to offset B2P sales revenue on PlayStation. And we already know how ABK feel about subscription services for Day 1 content: they hate them...at least as an independent company.
If they get bought out for $69 billion, they couldn't care less about that issue any longer.
Diablo IV, Guitar Hero (assuming it comes back), DJ Hero (same), Leisure Suit Larry (if it comes back), Gabriel Knight, Overwatch, Crash, Spyro, the LEGO games...
Some of those may not matter to a lot of people, but they do matter to many just the same.
Everyone was on their A-game with this film, I should give it another watch some day.
Nah, I'll be sticking with PlayStation. I would gladly buy a console made by Tencent over getting an Xbox, and I'll even wave the Chinese Communist flag and buy Xi Jinping's book if Tencent manages to become Xbox's primary competitor if/when Sony ever exits the console hardware space. I'm also saying this as a citizen of the United States, as I have no care for concepts like nationalism or patriotism.
Sounds like the deal got worse from what they were originally offered. Sony overplayed their hand badly.
Nah, I'll be sticking with PlayStation. I would gladly buy a console made by Tencent over getting an Xbox, and I'll even wave the Chinese Communist flag and buy Xi Jinping's book if Tencent manages to become Xbox's primary competitor if/when Sony ever exits the console hardware space. I'm also saying this as a citizen of the United States, as I have no care for concepts like nationalism or patriotism.
Not necessarily a better deal previously though.
Initial deal for current franchises through 2027 vs current deal for COD through 2033.
Nah, I'll be sticking with PlayStation. I would gladly buy a console made by Tencent over getting an Xbox, and I'll even wave the Chinese Communist flag and buy Xi Jinping's book if Tencent manages to become Xbox's primary competitor if/when Sony ever exits the console hardware space. I'm also saying this as a citizen of the United States, as I have no care for concepts like nationalism or patriotism.
It's clickbait. Tom made an article about it last year, the deal in the Tweet is the shit 3 year one.The deal got worse? Activision only has COD in terms of what matters for PlayStation. So getting COD till 33 instead of who cares + COD till 27 is… a worse deal?
In what world, some of you have the wildest takes…
“Microsoft has only offered for Call of Duty to remain on PlayStation for three years after the current agreement between Activision and Sony ends,” explains PlayStation chief Jim Ryan in a statement to Games Industry.biz. “After almost 20 years of Call of Duty on PlayStation, their proposal was inadequate on many levels and failed to take account of the impact on our gamers. We want to guarantee PlayStation gamers continue to have the highest quality Call of Duty experience, and Microsoft’s proposal undermines this principle.”
Ryan’s statement makes it clear that “several more years” is actually three years after Sony’s Call of Duty marketing deal ends. Bloomberg originally reported earlier this year that Microsoft was committed to releasing Call of Duty on PlayStation “for at least the next two years,” suggesting that Sony’s marketing deal for the franchise could expire in 2024. That could mean Microsoft has only offered up until 2027.
Sony has 10 years to sunset PlayStation then. I think 70% of Sony's revenues today are not from PS anyways, so winding that business down over 10 years can be done with some planning.
They also have 10 years to try and get acquired now too. It's a long runway for them to find survival strategies before their lease on CoD runs out.
You should’ve taken the deal from the start and save yourself the embarrassment Jim.
You mock him but retiring the Playstation is something that could definitely happen in the near future.
Pass that ducthie, i want some of that shit you smoking, put my ass to sleep.
The deal got worse? Activision only has COD in terms of what matters for PlayStation. So getting COD till 33 instead of who cares + COD till 27 is… a worse deal?
In what world, some of you have the wildest takes…
Thanks to Jimbo, Playstation gamers get the short end of the stick.So this deal is all about "looking forward to a future where players globally have more choice to play their favorite games?" Right?