While it's not a full game that RTX racer demo is apparently going to be released with the cards, while not as good as the tiger one I think it looks better than marbles.
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New Nvidia RTX 4000 Adola Lovelace Cards Announced | RTX 4090 (1599$) October 12th | RTX 4080 (1199$)
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Sadly there are too many gamers that have a psychotic need to have the latest GPU, they play games like Minecraft and fortnite with an rtx 3090 but NEED to upgrade to a 4090 for reasons.
These are the people helping to enable nvidia to pull shitty anti consumer moves like this.
These are the people helping to enable nvidia to pull shitty anti consumer moves like this.
dorkimoe
Member
its not just gamers but yeah 100% agree. These will sell out 100% guaranteed
HeisenbergFX4
Member
That would be me but I also played games like Red Dead 2 at max settings though most of my games sure don't even need my 3090 like Rocket League
But I can't wait to fire up something like StarField on that 4090
Buggy Loop
Member
Is RTX remix exclusive to Ada?
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
It's an amazing piece of hardware, and it will sell well at first of course. But once that initial batch sells, I think they are going to have to drop the price pretty fast.
I'd love to have a 90tf card, I technically could afford it in lieu of other toys, but the value proposition is poor.
I'd love to have a 90tf card, I technically could afford it in lieu of other toys, but the value proposition is poor.
TVexperto
Member
nvidia said the only reason price is so high to sell 3000 stock faster
I'm really not sure how I feel about these prices, yes they are expensive but I used to upgrade my hardware way more often and even buy multiple at times (sli/crossfire). I'll wait to see what AMD brings in Nov, the prices and generation times are now high enough to make me want to make the right choice for what's important to me. But Seeing I wont buy another gpu for probably 3 or 4 years it doesn't end up massively more expensive than in the past.
I will say one thing, people bitching about the prices because it's a hobby/entertainment or whatever must have never been into cars and/or bikes when they were younger lol.
I will say one thing, people bitching about the prices because it's a hobby/entertainment or whatever must have never been into cars and/or bikes when they were younger lol.
GHG
Member
Apparently not.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
With EVGA out the game who is the new top dog? ASUS? MSI?
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
hinch7
Member
Who cares about other hobbies when we're talking about GPU's here. The high end SKU's going up by 72-100% or more (depending on region) is why a lot of people aren't happy with this announcement. Despite decent performance gains and some very interesting technologies.
Nvidia is correcting the mistake they made last generation in making the 3080 cards too 'good' (relative to Turing) value now realising they can get away with selling to enthusiasts and early adopters silly money. And instead make the new 4080 cards so unappealing, to upsell you on the 4090 and older unsold 3000 series cards for the rest.
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thats 1440p, any idea what the 90ti is doing at that resolution?
Jayjayhd34
Member
First video I found shows it getting around 170fps at 1440p maximum settings
THE DUCK
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Good question
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The thing is too that I think those 4080 prices are absolutely ludicrous and don't make sense given the $300 difference but the 4090 price makes more sense given the pricing of the 3090.
Coming from a 3090 I would want something that's significantly more powerful and not just a small incremental step and I feel like a 4080 16 GB card will be too small of a jump for me given that I want to run everything 4K 120 or 144.
Coming from a 3090 I would want something that's significantly more powerful and not just a small incremental step and I feel like a 4080 16 GB card will be too small of a jump for me given that I want to run everything 4K 120 or 144.
GHG
Member
HeisenbergFX4
Member
They priced that 16 GB 4080 to funnel people into the 4090
I really think the lower priced 4080 was going to be the 4070 just NVidia thought they were pulling a fast one with the naming
Caio
Member
Kazekage1981
Member
If you got Rapter Lake CPU's reaching close to 6GHz
then pair with the latest Nvidia RTX4 series
PCIE Gen 5
DDR5
DLSS 3.0
etc..
Wouldn't you want to see it in 8K 60fps at least for those who got the money?
then pair with the latest Nvidia RTX4 series
PCIE Gen 5
DDR5
DLSS 3.0
etc..
Wouldn't you want to see it in 8K 60fps at least for those who got the money?
J3nga
Member
I have MSI GAMING X TRIO 3080. Great card, cool and quiet.
ExcitableBoy
Member
Is it worth upgrading from 3080 to 4080 12gb?
J3nga
Member
Very doubtful move my friend.
RayHell
Member
Yes I meant the 4070 in 4080 12gb disguiseWait, a 3090 is still more powerfull than a 4080? You mean the 4080 12gb version?
P.s. in europe a 3090 is still 1100-1200 euros, same price (or more) of a 4080 12 gb founders.
P.s.s. if someone know a deal for a 3090 for 850 euros in europe send me a pm please
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Kind of doubtful but need to see real world tests of DLSS 3
Kazekage1981
Member
I'm surprised they didn't mention path tracing as I thought this would be the next level of innovation . Glad they got ray tracing down better though....
. Glad they got ray tracing down better though....
Rbk_3
Member
Those frametimes (6-7ms) are worse than native 200FPS (4-5ms). What is the point of a "higher framerate" in a competitive shooter when your latency is worse?
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GHG
Member
Doubt it. If the previous leaks are to be believed it will perform similarly to what you already have when DLSS is taken out of the equation.
These things makes me want to build a new pc after plenty of years.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Maybe better on the NVidia channel though the other one looked fine first time I watched it
Buggy Loop
Member
Honestly, what PC needs the most right now is the whole IO situation. We need the fucking promised DirectStorage & RTX IO already. Useless to have 2x performances if It stutters
Caio
Member
Same here. These SPECS/TECH are insane, and everytime I start dreaming to build a Monster, like the most powerful PC among all GAF members
not kidding. These Nvidia RTX GPU are sick.
Gen.Grievous
Member
We need AMD to have much cheaper cards. AMD had it's Zen moment and kicked Intel's ass. If AMD can do the same with RDNA3 we will see change, if AMD is going to sit a hundred bucks below Nvidia nothing will change.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Probably because it’s not that big of a jump from current DLSS.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
AMD’s got an opportunity to stagger Nvidia, but they’re going to have to be aggressive with pricing and have comparable cards.
TheRedRiders
Member
Depends on the kind of performance you're looking for.
I want to build a PC within the next 12 months, I won't be playing on a monitor either as I prefer playing on my normal LED TV which is HDR 4K at 60 FPS, so getting a high performance card like the 4080/4090 would be almost futile for me. There are so many options I can go for with GPU's that'll give me 60 FPS from 2K to 4K, and which are like half the price of the 4080 16 GB lol
My philosophy for my rig would be at least 2x the realtime performance of the PS5/SeriesX which would guarantee 60 FPS across a lot titles but I'm digressing here.
Buggy Loop
Member
They had the opportunity with RDNA 2 and they had their cards priced $50 cheaper than Nvidia's but with missing features. Not to mention that AMD's MSRP was a joke, they wanted to stop producing reference cards for a reason, they did not want to sell at those prices and the AIBs, for the same cooler solution as Ampere, were sometimes +$100-$150.
I'm not even sure they would be ready to ramp up to supply an increased demand in the likes that Nvidia sees. The 3090 alone sold more than the entire 6000 series.
Say, AMD thinks they have a winner on their hands and somehow an attractive pricing. To ramp up production to compete, which requires to be ready on launch day as ramping up takes time and it would already be the next generation, they would be at risk of having millions of cards not being sold since competition can always change price too.
I really doubt we would have an AMD "nice guy" moment having a competitive card for >$100 less. Zen was a desperate move, like on the brink of bankruptcy move, a do or die situation. GPUs don't seem to be their core business and seem fine getting 1-2% of the userbase..
twilo99
Member
Reallink
Member
It's very possible Nvidia pays AMD to release inferior shit at high prices in incredibly low volume to play the part of "paper competion" and an anti-trust shield.They had the opportunity with RDNA 2 and they had their cards priced $50 cheaper than Nvidia's but with missing features. Not to mention that AMD's MSRP was a joke, they wanted to stop producing reference cards for a reason, they did not want to sell at those prices and the AIBs, for the same cooler solution as Ampere, were sometimes +$100-$150.
I'm not even sure they would be ready to ramp up to supply an increased demand in the likes that Nvidia sees. The 3090 alone sold more than the entire 6000 series.
Say, AMD thinks they have a winner on their hands and somehow an attractive pricing. To ramp up production to compete, which requires to be ready on launch day as ramping up takes time and it would already be the next generation, they would be at risk of having millions of cards not being sold since competition can always change price too.
I really doubt we would have an AMD "nice guy" moment having a competitive card for >$100 less. Zen was a desperate move, like on the brink of bankruptcy move, a do or die situation. GPUs don't seem to be their core business and seem fine getting 1-2% of the userbase..
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sendit
Member
Bought the 3090 when it came out back in 2020 (for $1899 marked up, this isn't a price issue for me). However, I'm not completely sold on this yet. I want to see what AMD brings to the table before I make my decision. This seems slightly underwhelming. AI generated frames that is an iteration of the dreaded frame interpolations provided by TVs that massively increases latency.
- I need to see benchmarks on how much Reflex actually reduces latency from the interpolations.
- Do the added frames introduce ghosting or increased motion blur?
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PhoenixTank
Member
Asus probably. Strix & Tuf are usually decent but all the brands make bad cards and it varies by generation. Hopefully reviews of specific cards will actually be more plentiful and matter worth a damn this time round.
Unclear on who is the top dog for RMAs/customer service in the US now.
bad guy
as bad as Danny Zuko in gym knickers
What you need is RVGL not a new PC.
marjo
Member
So outside of the frame interpolation stuff (which is of dubious value given that it doesn't improve input latency), it seems like the 4000 series is showing incremental improvements over what's currently available. At least in terms of rasterization. Ray tracing may see some more substantial gains due to shader execution reordering (the real innovation here in my opinion).
Still, the fact that their releasing a 70 series card (in all but name) at $900 makes this the least impressive new gen Nvidia has ever put out. The price is simply way to high.
Still, the fact that their releasing a 70 series card (in all but name) at $900 makes this the least impressive new gen Nvidia has ever put out. The price is simply way to high.