Physiognomonics
Member
The gameplay is actually better than the first. For the gameplay and fidelity (notably the incredible animations) the game is well worth it.
But beware, story is horseshit.
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TLoU Part II is on sale for $20. I never played it. Do I want to?
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But beware, story is horseshit.
K2D
Banned
Hope it was joy to play
Don't understand how people force themselves to grind through games.
Oversaturated by Elden Ring? - I won't touch that shit until I'm jumping at the possibility to play more.
I'm was a little miffed at times however about when the story (Days Gone) would progress or pick up.
Justin9mm
Member
The fact that the game is so divisive means you cannot form a general opinion unless you play it for yourself. There is no real general consensus other than the opinion being so divided.
No comment either way should sway you.. With the game having very high production value, for $20, you owe it to yourself as a gamer to play and find out what you think.
No comment either way should sway you.. With the game having very high production value, for $20, you owe it to yourself as a gamer to play and find out what you think.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
In my opinion, it's a great game with great cinematic, sound and gameplay effects.
The story could have been better to be honest, playing with Abby for me has excellent scenes and action.
What I criticize the game is the inclusion of scenes for SJW or the implication of other acts that are controversial (for me the religious implication that they handle).
Otherwise, it's a great game (9 of score).
Another thing I hate about the game is that although it is possible avoid it, the implication of animal abuse.
If you want a premium game and with a great price... Pick the Gravity rush saga, honestly.
The story could have been better to be honest, playing with Abby for me has excellent scenes and action.
What I criticize the game is the inclusion of scenes for SJW or the implication of other acts that are controversial (for me the religious implication that they handle).
Otherwise, it's a great game (9 of score).
Another thing I hate about the game is that although it is possible avoid it, the implication of animal abuse.
If you want a premium game and with a great price... Pick the Gravity rush saga, honestly.
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killatopak
Member
Go for it.
Even ignoring the controversial story entirely, it is a great game in of itself. The attention to detail is amazing. The combat feels satisfying and the atmosphere is amazing.
Even ignoring the controversial story entirely, it is a great game in of itself. The attention to detail is amazing. The combat feels satisfying and the atmosphere is amazing.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Lot of people mention SJW controversial, but my problem with TLOU2 story has nothing to do any of that or Joel getting killed, my problem is I didn’t really care about any of new characters like I did in first game, it has more death and gore looks more brutal but just had no impact to it.
Best example I can come up with is difference between original Saw movie and later movies, sure the first movie had less budget and couldn’t show actual gore but it was impactful, even without showing the guy sawing his own foot, it was super effective.
Later movies had more budget and fully showing the gore but it less impactful compare to original Saw and that’s kind of how I feel with TLOU2 compare to original game.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Man this game really damaged so many of you...6 pages over this, lmao.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
You have to understand that the only way people can justify praising the shit story of part 2 is creating the same delusion and curse correction that Cuckman wants for the end of Part 1 .... just wait for the remake and you will understand"Mass murderer serial killer"...
Yea idk if I'd call Joel that at all. If he never had to kill anyone, he wouldn't do it. That's kind of a gross misunderstanding of the context of like 95% of the encounters in the first game. In the world of TLOU, its either him or them. As for the ending? Questionable. How would you feel if your kid was going to be dragged away without their consent to have their brains dissected and kill them (and the PS3 version even had a document that heavily implied they didn't even know if it would work towards a vaccine)? Isn't that kidnapping?
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
The ending of the first game was already controversial. I don't know what you are talking about but it's not like everyone sided with Joel's decision back then at the end of it. You also have no idea if the ending of the first game will be changed. There's no reasons for it to be.
TLOU2 just goes one step forward with making you feel conflicted and look for the reasons from "both sides" but let's not pretend this was something that just happened with the 2nd game. The fireflies were never really seen as "bad guys".
We also already knew those last few decisions would haunt Joel in the future...we just didn't know how.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Yeah, its definitely worth playing. If only to see why it riled up so many people!
Mechanically and technically its ND'd best work to date, but its story is very... confronting.
Its funny; had the game been made 10-15 years ago and in a different political climate then the people decrying it would likely be cheering its edgyness.
Mechanically and technically its ND'd best work to date, but its story is very... confronting.
Its funny; had the game been made 10-15 years ago and in a different political climate then the people decrying it would likely be cheering its edgyness.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
I bet my avatar that he is going to make subtle (or not) changes to make the decisions of joel more "wrongful" and make the fireflies less "evilsh"...
Lets wait and see..
kyliethicc
Member
Its the most awarded game of all time by both the media and by players.
The general consensus is that it’s a great game.
They killed my video daddy please understand
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AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Its about 25-30 hours game but honestly, gameplay is so addicting and playing it for the first time, you are soaking up everything. Its the only game even after all the drama around it, that I played AGAIN the next day after I already finished it once.
EDMIX
Member
Agreed. Back then many debated if it made sense to kill all those people and if he should wake up Ellie to ask her or if the Doctor needed to be killed or even Marlene. This idea that the second game created that narrative simply doesn't make sense.
He doesn't die at the end, he eats it IN THE BEGINNING, as in its completely understood that someone would come looking for him based on people he killed himself. I remember even having a theory years before we even got a announcement of The Last Of Us 2, that Marlene's family would come looking for him or something lol I mean, she is the last person you see he kills.
So of course many of us believed something would happen as the game foreshadows a great deal, like this line
? They wouldn't need to change anything, what he does in the first game was understood by many to be wrong ,even Joel's own character. So many debated the ending trying to see if it was just, would anyone else do the same etc, it wasn't some unanimous he is the good guy and did no wrong thing, to the point of pretending the second game is lying about something.
Here is what many said when that actually released.
Let's Talk About: The ending of The Last of Us
Let's Talk About... is an opinion series in which two members of Polygon's editorial team discuss an important game or topic. In this piece, Senior Reviewer Danielle Riendeau and Editor-at-Large...
www.polygon.com
"the plot's climax, the game's designers needed to emphasize that the wants of Joel and the wants of the player are not the same. Sure, you're guiding Joel's external actions, but you have no control of his internal thinking. Forcing you to shoot the doctors "
and
"the player can't be the hero."
and
"The moment is powerful and absolutely necessary for Joel's final lie to work. And the lie, wow, it's perfect. Because we expect this man to change. We misread him, because we think the empathic Joel in the cut scenes is different than the psychopathic Joel we play as."
and
" I was literally yelling at the screen while playing. I wanted to save the world. I wanted Joel to stop killing everyone who was trying to save the world and find some compromise"
So.....unless they fucking went in a time machine and played The Last Of Us 2, those views have nothing to do with some forced, fake narrative shoved in Part 2, a lot of us already debated that for years before we even got 1 fucking reveal of The Last Of Us part 2, as to why anyone believes that idea is new or made THRU The Last Of Us 2 is beyond me. I think you need to play that game over again or actually go on google and look at those articles and forum talk from 2013.
His actions being debated at the end didn't fucking start in 2020, many of us believed it was wrong including myself in 2013 when it first came out, that isn't some brand new idea lol
"Joel was always a bad guy, just depends on your personal perspective." - Another Time Traveler I see lol
EDMIX
Member
lol I'd say if they are debating how they spend 20 bucks, they must be doing pretty good with how they budget cause imho, that is how one should think technically. Every penny counts. Its the large number of smaller things that really adds up and can make a massive difference.
I myself decided to avoid buying much games this year until I finish a good amount of my backlog. Not everything needs to be day 1 and if I get to the point of debating 20 bucks, I better have a lot saved up already lol, but with a AAA game like this thats a solid 30 hours or so, its a good value per dollar.
OOGABOOGA
Banned
No, the problem is that TLOU2 completely warped the shit out of the narrative to make Joel seem like a bigger piece of shit than he actually was. Going back to Abby's father being killed. Abby's father was about to perform a lethal dissection on a random young woman with no guarantee of a vaccine or anything, without her consent. Joel barges in after being held at gunpoint by the leader and being told that she wont be giving Ellie a choice (y'know, meaning that the fireflies are going to straight up murder her AND Joel if he doesn't comply), and Abby's father responds by basically pulling a knife on Joel and threatening to kill him. So Joel fights him and easily wins, killing him.
This perspective is completely eliminated from the second game, and instead it basically portrays Joels actions as him being a dangerous thug that doomed humanity. Even better, its implied in the first game that Ellie sort of stops caring about curing humanity after dealing with the cannibals and begins to genuinely enjoy her life with Joel. Yet in the second game, all that optimism and realization is completely lost, which really does come off more as a straight up retcon than some sort of character development. Literally nobody acts like how they do in the first game, and its not just "oh things changed", like Joel would never have had him and Tommy give up their names to a group of armed strangers mysteriously hanging outside their camp if it wasn't written by a complete hack. Remember, TLOU1 had a lot of shit removed that Druckman originally wanted in because Bruce Straley thought it was fucking awful. Being that he had no input in TLOU2, its not surprising that it basically feels like Druckman was given complete creative control and wanted to Last Jedi all the shit the first game was implying and building up to just to "subvert expectations" and make it darker.
Joel dies from being absolutely moronic, which is just completely out of character. He knew he's a dead man outside the camp, why the hell would he give his name away? Tommy knew this as well. Ellie is now a complete bitter bitch thats even more of an asshole than Joel ever was, which just makes zero sense. Her personality completely shifted and changed from the first game. Theres zero optimism or hope in her, so what the hell was the point of everything built up with her character in the first game? And why does Abby leave Ellie alive when she kills Joel in the first place? Is she really that dumb and doesnt think Ellie is just going to lead an effort to kill her JUST LIKE HER OWN REVENGE?
Ultimately the problem that a lot of people have with TLOU2's narrative is that its so ridiculously contrived, you can just tell Druckman didnt care at all about anything people liked with the first game and he just wanted to write some overly-dark revenge plot that "subverts expectations" despite it being insanely trope-y and generic.
EDMIX
Member
How? Nothing in Part 2 changes the facts of what happened, you are just seeing the REACTION to those it effected in Part 2. That isn't "warped", that is simply seeing the fallout of events in Part 1, effect Part 2.
Factually he did those things to people in Part 1.
Factually someone came looking for him in Part 2.
Abby's father was about to perform a lethal dissection on a random young woman with no guarantee of a vaccine or anything, without her consent. Joel barges in after being held at gunpoint by the leader and bein"
None of that matters btw Your opinion about her father is completely irrelevant because all you're debating is the reason why the person did it you're not actually arguing that something factually changed with what occurred in part one to try to pretend something was warped in part 2
I want you to strongly consider that lots of people took the stance that you had before part two was ever even revealed which means such and idea was already debated which means part 2 is not warping or forcing some fake A Narrative of something that never existed in the first game it's simply continuing that debate.
So all you're doing is arguing the reasoning of Joel's actions in part one that does not change that people debated that and someone clearly would come for this man's life in part 2...
Years ago I even debated that Marlene family members might come after him or something and it looks like I wasn't that far off on such a theory if another family member of a firefly came to do him in because the idea of what we're discussing Is Not Unusual it's not something that is out in the ballpark you're literally fucking talkin about the most obvious result of killing a bunch of people might actually be revenge from those family members so part 2 is not warping anything even remotely regarding that concept. So this whole "Abby's Father was abou" Sooooo she doesn't care, she already knows what they were doing and she wants revenge. What you are saying is just arguing that you disagree with her killing him, not that one would not have that view in Part 1 and Part 2 MADE that "warped" view or something. Many people felt he was the bad guy or anti hero etc as you can look up all that yourself, thus Part 2 isn't creating that idea, it already existed cause he doesn't kill those people in Part 2, he does IN PART 1!!!
Thats also completely untrue, both games show both perspectives and I'd argue you see MORE of Joels in Part 1 then in Part 2.
In Part 2 many times its mentioned that his actions saved Elle.
Even the very ending of the game shows this bond they have and her TRYING to understand what he did, thus no...the game isn't JUST talking about the actions of the whole "doomed humanity" WLF sees that, Ellie and her camp see it another way. Ellie lies cause she KNOWS the person that killed him, had just reasons to actually kill him, but the game shows many sides of him to really fucking pretend that is the whole game.
Ellie's Birthday Scene is about Joel being a "thug that doomed humanity"? smh.
If you can find shit in the game that supports him being seen as bad, you can find shit in the game of those that supported what he did like Tommy, dear god stop fucking pretending the game is only about bashing him or something.
I greatly disagree.
She grows, she gets darker cause what happened and she now becomes a harder person.
Joel was at peace with his daughter, she dies, now he becomes a harder person. That isn't any "retcon" shit, that's life sir, you and I likely are not the same people after massive events in our lives. You don't need to agree with how that character develops as your view is your own, but no way can that be some "retcon" as he made the character, its up to him to shape what happens and I like that he didn't put on this unrealistic happy go lucky person and instead she starts to turn into Joel.
Maybe in the 3rd game, she becomes the person finding humanity and doing those hard things to find some sort of happiness, even if its doing the wrong thing and a young life she is trying to shape can't understand what she is doing and what this life can make you become over time.
nahhhhy, probably makes the most sense out of anything in those 2 games tbh.
Something happened to Joel, he changes.
Something happened to Ellie, she changes.
Thats it. lol I don't even know why that would be debated lol
Well...its his story to tell and to be honest, if you write something, don't listen to me man, write what the fuck YOU WANT TO WRITE. Don't pander to me, don't try to write what you think I'll like, ignore what I liked about the first book, game, season of a show, film etc, write what you want. I want to see what you are bringing to the story, not what you think I want and trying to make something to please people or by the numbers or some safe shit like that. I personally love how this game turned out and love that we see Ellie grow and she makes choices I don't agree with, but its because that is a character who makes mistakes, just like Joel did things in Part 1 that I hated, but I loved the game for it. I'm not either character, I'm just watching them make their choices and in for the rollercoaster ride.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
People are trying to push a narrative that the first game ending was devisive like the story on the second game but it was not, a quick google search can show polls made at the time and forum discussions where a large majority of people sided with joel decision in the story.
The fireflies where a gerrilla type of group, that would in a post apocalyptic world, in improvised facilities, collect, mass create and mass distribute a vaccine for an never know new type o virus, killing an inocent girl without giving her choice or any assurance of success, and them the father figure of this girl chooses to not let that happen and has to kill everybody to get to her including the doctor who TRIES to kill him.... wowwww what a monster, a father trying to save his daughter, against fully armed men ? Tell me thats a lie...
I already said this but its the only way that people can justify the awful story of the second game, and that covers only the bits concerning joel - ellie and abby main motivations ... there is mutch more holes, contrivances and conveniences in the story even if you believe that Joel was really deserving of the death/ending/treatment he got.
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EDMIX
Member
Not really, that literally supports a debate was had on what he did at the end, it literally shows someone disagreed with what he did, other agreed etc. So....looking back at those debates proves people all didn't agree with 1 thing or the other or something. I mean, a poll was made? why? Doesn't that show you something was talked about, debated etc? So this isn't saying how much or to what degree someone sided with him, this is saying a view point against him and his actions existed regardless of how many, enough to debate and have many people talk about that ending, like a ton.
So...not sure what to say. Was talked about by many, Part 2 just has the same people still talking about if that was needed or not, it doesn't make something up or force some new narrative that wasn't already talked about or something.
Let's Talk About: The ending of The Last of Us
Let's Talk About... is an opinion series in which two members of Polygon's editorial team discuss an important game or topic. In this piece, Senior Reviewer Danielle Riendeau and Editor-at-Large...
www.polygon.com
ok but, that just shows we would have debated that with the first game, I did a ton as I started out agreeing with Joel and later after few playthroughs I actually sided against him and agreed with that maybe he could have did all that differently.
Not really. Its pretty straight forward.
He did things to people in Part 1, people came and did things to him in Part 2.
I even believed that would occur to him and actually thought
Marlene's family would come to kill him or something and I thought that for years as she is the last person he kills. I thought husband or son or cousin lol Regardless of how anyone feels about the story, the debate regarding his character's actions isn't new and was had for years after the first game, that isn't anything new with Part 2
Keep in mind, we don't even talk about the very ending of Part 2 anywhere NEAR as much as we talk about the ending of Part 1. I love the ending of Part 2 a lot, but the ending of 1 opens up so many questions into if it was right, wrong, could someone find him or Tommy or something and ending of Part 2 doeesn't really have those massive questions like 1 did, as to why most of this is talking about the beginning of 2 or ending of 1 more then ending of 2 or something.
So I won't get into a whole "majority sided with" BS, the point is that enough talked about it for it not to have this clear idea of right or wrong or something and was just as much debated as lots of Part 2 is. (something I love about both titles)
Have a good one.
Fools idol
Banned
The game is fantastic.
Is it perfect? no, of course not. Is it better than the first? Mechanically, it's light years ahead, graphically, light years again, combat... everything is just better. Storytelling and pacing is a lot better..
Story however is a mixed bag. I personally loved it, although the ending is abrupt, they really explored Ellie as a character and killed off fan favourites. If you really loved Joel as a character (I personally found him loathsome and generic as fuck honestly) then you probably wont like the story as much as the first game.
TLDR I can see why people did not like the fact that they kill off a key character in the first hour to replace it with someone that most hardcore fans didn't like. I really liked Abby and Ellie and the whole story in general. It's a wonderful experience and the swan song of the PS4 gen. $20 is a steal.
Is it perfect? no, of course not. Is it better than the first? Mechanically, it's light years ahead, graphically, light years again, combat... everything is just better. Storytelling and pacing is a lot better..
Story however is a mixed bag. I personally loved it, although the ending is abrupt, they really explored Ellie as a character and killed off fan favourites. If you really loved Joel as a character (I personally found him loathsome and generic as fuck honestly) then you probably wont like the story as much as the first game.
TLDR I can see why people did not like the fact that they kill off a key character in the first hour to replace it with someone that most hardcore fans didn't like. I really liked Abby and Ellie and the whole story in general. It's a wonderful experience and the swan song of the PS4 gen. $20 is a steal.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
lmao...people keep saying there was no consent from Ellie about that surgery...Marlene said so on that last cutscene...and Joel knew that Ellie would be perfectly okay sacrificing herself for the cause. Joel literally says "that ain't for you to decide" to Marlene and Marlene says "that's what she would want" and Joel goes silent...to which Marlene says with a surprised voice "and you know it!"...cut to again a very quiet Joel. He knew he had lost that argument by then.
You forget Marlene literally watched Ellie grow. She knew her much better than Joel. She knew about her being bitten. She was the one that mentioned the firefly camp to Ellie. Ellie knew what that trip would lead to and what the stakes were long before meeting Joel. He didn't do this for Ellie...he did that because Ellie is a replacement to the daughter he once lost. He wasn't simply saving Ellie. He was having a second chance at saving his daughter. He was selfish. He did it for himself. Remember during the Giraffe cutscene...Ellie was 100% quiet...like most of that section of the game. She knew what was about to happen, possibly. Joel even tells her "you don't have to do this...you know that right?" to which she answers "what's the other option?" and he suggests going back to Tommy...to which she says "after all i've been through, after all i've done...it can't be for nothing" then she leaves.
Joel knew Ellie was ready for whatever outcome would come from that trip across the country...he was the one who wasn't ready. Not Ellie.
That's why Joel's scene during TLOU2 where he says "everything i did...i'd do it all over again" hits even harder. Ellie was like a daughter to him.
For 20 bucks? Probably. I regret spending full price on that game though.
While technologically brilliant, it overstays it's welcome due to length and not enough interesting game mechanic that could pad out that content. And story is just bad fanfic with useless or non interesting characters and nonsensical plot.
While technologically brilliant, it overstays it's welcome due to length and not enough interesting game mechanic that could pad out that content. And story is just bad fanfic with useless or non interesting characters and nonsensical plot.
I played it earlier this year and really liked it. I hate wokeness and SJW crap so it is possible to enjoy it despite what others say if you have strong feelings about that stuff.
Gameplay was excellent. I'll even go as far as to say the story is good but uses some lazy tropes and retcon to make it work. But overall, yeah it's definitely worth playing.
Gameplay was excellent. I'll even go as far as to say the story is good but uses some lazy tropes and retcon to make it work. But overall, yeah it's definitely worth playing.
DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
Member
I only played the first game back on PS3, but it wasn’t my favorite game so I was never really interested in a sequel regardless of however polarizing it may be.
I do know that when it comes to polarizing sequels you’re better off just trying it for yourself though.
I do know that when it comes to polarizing sequels you’re better off just trying it for yourself though.
FingerBang
Member
I mean, seriously, look 2 years after its release how people are still arguing about its story.
It's a must play game, love it or hate it. It will wreck you emotionally, for a reason or another. You won't play this game and feel nothing. Unless you're a psychopath, but in that case why are you playing games? Go murder someone like your people did in the past.
It's a must play game, love it or hate it. It will wreck you emotionally, for a reason or another. You won't play this game and feel nothing. Unless you're a psychopath, but in that case why are you playing games? Go murder someone like your people did in the past.
Zeroing
Banned
They were already damaged... I remember the "will gaming celebrate feminine beauty again thread"
Yeah for better or worse that game will not be forgotten. Rarely any games nowadays leave that longing impression on people. We need more of those, people gaming nowadays is very bland. Not even CyberPunk with all that mess, manages to trigger so many people...
Ulysses 31
Member
It only proves that Marlene never asked Ellie. Assuming consent is not something you do when planning to murder someone.
Marlene's statement is questionable at best since she stands to gain(in her mind) from Ellie's death and doesn't know how strong Ellie and Joel's bond had grown after their journey to the hospital.
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We've been saying this since even before Left Behind DLC released for PS3. Its gotta be something like 8 years ago. ND have failed the online MP of this game, never mind the story.
Why did Factions MP never get split-out into a standalone game purchase like Imfamous 2nd Son DLC, later offered to PS+/Now?
Ignored player feedback on weapon/skill balancing, locations from main game and left behind dlc not represented in MP maps, could have kept releasing taunts/weapons/skills/hats/maps/modes etc. Literally sat back and watched others like Fotnite refine GAAS and seasonal drops etc, when Sony have TLOU Factions and SOCOM sat in the vault. Fucking Idiots!
Im grumpy today lol.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Don't tell that to HBO.
FingerBang
Member
So true. I understand some of the criticism, but it's undeniable it's a game that sets a high bar when it comes to storytelling in video games.
It makes me laugh how some people are super critical of it forgetting what the average video game is like.
This is an amazing video (and channel) about the game. I disagree on the story, but he's pretty objective about the way it's told what a polished product it is.
My review is: Yeah, there's some wokeness there, but it's not much and you can ignore it because they don't affect the message. The gameplay, the settings and the visuals are fantastic. The characters are all well crafted and realistic, FOR A VIDEOGAME. I personally liked the story and it resonated with me a lot, especially the ending.
Topher
Gold Member
That is a key point for me. Fact of the matter is that much of the back story of Lev is told in the optional dialogue prompts. The game does not force it on you at all so if you want to avoid all that you certainly can.
Of course, there is no bypassing Ellie's being lesbian, but it isn't like they kept that a secret. If that is a part of what some call "wokeness" then.....I just don't know.
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Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
This is where the game is. Very good and diverse gameplay but fuck the story was ugly, and very depressing. Abby motives are more relatable than the protagonist, and there are times that her actions are very wrong and brutal.
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SEGAvangelist
Member
Better off skipping it. The bigot sandwiches turned me off immediately.
lughnasadh123
Member
It's very much worth playing especially at that price. It looks good, sounds good, and gameplay is as good as ever.
Then there's the story. I didn't love it; I didn't hate it. It had some low lows with frustratingly bad choices characters would keep making. Yet there are some great scenes that bring back the senseless chaos down a bit. You should be fine going in with an open, if slightly skeptical, mindset to come up with your own conclusions on how well the story hits.
Then there's the story. I didn't love it; I didn't hate it. It had some low lows with frustratingly bad choices characters would keep making. Yet there are some great scenes that bring back the senseless chaos down a bit. You should be fine going in with an open, if slightly skeptical, mindset to come up with your own conclusions on how well the story hits.
FingerBang
Member
I think that is what most people don't get. I welcome having any kind of *insert word that means non straight white man now* in a game or show, but please don't make their identity the whole fucking point of the medium. Yeah, Naughty Dog could have been subtler in Ellie being a lesbian. We got it, who cares. Yeah, Lev being the token trans was unnecessary, although realistically it's probably the best token trans they could put in a similar game. I have no issue with the character, they could have, again, being more subtle. You could still assume Lev is just a tomboy (they used to be a thing before suddenly an insane number of teenage girls decided they're men) who didn't want to conform to whatever her cult expected from her. I concede. But the game is not about that. The Story of TLoU2 is about the relationship between Ellie and Joel AS MUCH as the first game was. I didn't feel left out, I felt the whole game. And I'm not a lesbian or a woman nor I have had my stepdad murdered in front of me.
It's a story about human relationships and revenge, between flawed characters, told in an excellent way. It's not perfect, but god, no other game left me feeling like that.
The game made me literally cry. That's a fucking achievement for me.
He obviously plays a character, you can see that by looking at how his videos have changed, but I also tend to agree with a lot of the stuff he says when it comes to movies and TV Shows.
I personally disagree with his views on TLoU2, but he also concedes a lot to the game.
Shmunter
Member
If only half the games had a fifth of the writing of this game I would be in a gaming utopia. Nothing in the gaming landscape comes close to the quality of narrative and delivery here. It’s like Pac-Man vs Half-life all to often.
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