This is the question, and the thing that worries a lot of people. I think at launch all they have promised is offline PvP or PvCPU single fixtures. We don't know if they will release a Master League style add-on or just simple local custom leagues and if they do will they be paid for?I wonder what going F2P means for people like me that just play 'cpu vs cpu' leagues?.
Would i still be able to just do that on a F2P model as i wouldnt be paying money for anything.
They confirmed on their Twitter that ML will be paid for DLC.This is the question, and the thing that worries a lot of people. I think at launch all they have promised is offline PvP or PvCPU single fixtures. We don't know if they will release a Master League style add-on or just simple local custom leagues and if they do will they be paid for?
Ah OK thanks for the info. I think that is fair enough, in a way over time it could be beneficial that I pay once for the ML and can play in perpetuity whilst still benefitting from updates to the core game over time (in theory)They confirmed on their Twitter that ML will be paid for DLC.
Which I suppose at least eliminates that issue people had with it.
However it doesn’t make up for the fact it looks like ass and is supposedly running on next-gen hardware yet looks and seemingly moves like the UE4 mobile version they’ve had out for years.
On the trailer, it shows you only get like 10 clubs at launchI wonder what going F2P means for people like me that just play 'cpu vs cpu' leagues?.
Would i still be able to just do that on a F2P model as i wouldnt be paying money for anything.
You miss the point. I'm saying it could also run on android - the game isn't vastly superior in any way.I wasnt planning on playing fifa on android
free 2 play can work for sports games if done right, i'm interested to see how this turns out in the long run.
Np mate.Ah OK thanks for the info. I think that is fair enough, in a way over time it could be beneficial that I pay once for the ML and can play in perpetuity whilst still benefitting from updates to the core game over time (in theory)
Like you say though, still a lot for them to prove in terms of the transition to UE4 and both the gameplay and visuals.
Have they mentioned anything about being able to create custom teams and import kits, badges etc. ?
If they were clever they world do things like release stadiums as DLC, maybe they have things like 'be a pro' storyline driven content that are sold via DLC. As long as the core (option files, local leagues etc) all ends up in there, then I'm happy for them to monitize other peripheral things.Np mate.
Yeah option files have been mentioned, won’t be available at launch and will come later in an update apparently.
mad for what you say on ML that definitely won’t be a one off payment for ML we’ll be paying every year for the new season of ML most likely which will have kits, player updates etc for licensed clubs.
but then raises the question why would pay for that if you could get all the gameplay updates and just update kits and players with option files….
Yeah I’m on yeh same page with that or if they make the edit mode more extensive and massively more in depth it would be epic.If they were clever they world do things like release stadiums as DLC, maybe they have things like 'be a pro' storyline driven content that are sold via DLC. As long as the core (option files, local leagues etc) all ends up in there, then I'm happy for them to monitize other peripheral things.
To think some people are pissed that Horizon is gonna be held back by PS4 and here you are being perfectly fine work a game being constrained by mobile. I applaud your optimism my friend.People don't realise this could be a good thing - some are too caught up in this cancel culture bullshit and can only be negative. Football games reached the peak 10 years ago probably - since then, the games have hardly advanced and you're still asked to pay a full price every year with each "new" game.
Do I miss the PS2 days of creating Option Files for people to use, fun, great times lol
Ok, just wanted to add a quick summary / update.
I’ll only be responding for a couple days max, I just wanted to get some important info out there to help undo the damage from our reveal. I hope I’ve managed to ease your minds a bit.
note - with any project, things can change. Although we’re not expecting any major changes to (our) road map between now and the end of the year, keep in mind some things can be moved forward or delayed
Here’s a summary of FAQ’s to stop questions and answers being lost in the thread.
1. The reveal trailer was designed to get people hyped about F2P, cross-gen cross platform and one on one mechanics. The team in charge thought this would be more important to users than showcasing visuals. I expect they know better now, there has been a deluge of feedback from the community and internally. I won’t be surprised to see a visual-heavy reveal next time
2. The next gen graphics are next gen, just not as good as the reveal trailer which was more of a “this is what we’re aspiring to” release, albeit poorly explained at the time. UE5 will help a lot with that, we’re UE4 at launch.
3. In the trailer, only the shots of the stadia were captured on next gen.
4. PC is not next gen at launch, that will change but we’ve not been told when
5. PC is still moddable.
6. No option file for Xbox - that’s a Microsoft issue.
7. We’ve not had a single build with commentary so can’t answer any Q’s about commentary.
8. The environmental sound is poor in the builds we’ve played, we’ve been assured this will be fixed for launch
9. Currently no 11v11 - it doesn’t mean it’s not in the game but we’ve not seen it.
10. Servers are dedicated and will be from launch
11. The server test a lot of you played was a server test, I know many don’t believe that it was, but it was. There was also some other tests happening too, you may have noticed a difference in visual fidelity between games, I can’t reveal why but it was important. The server test was a resounding success however, Konami were very happy with it.
12. The next reveal was and still is scheduled for around the 25th August. If you keep pressuring Konami’s and eFootballs social media’s you could get them to move this or at least get some more info/footage before then.
Please don’t go after Adam or any other employees individually, they don’t have the power to change the schedule.
Thanks. Have a lovely weekend
To think some people are pissed that Horizon is gonna be held back by PS4 and here you are being perfectly fine work a game being constrained by mobile. I applaud your optimism my friend.
If ML is fully featured and costs like 10 bucks or something its not bad. Its the only thing I played in PES basically as the netcode has always been trash.
The game is F2P...... but if you want to play ML offline... there is a charge.
You are going to be charged to play offline.
Wow.
It was a fun offline mode with light managing etc. You start out with a bunch of fake ass losers and climb up the ranks and afford better players.What's the appeal behind ML? I recall my brother playing it for months in the older versions....but that was before netplay. It's still only vs COM right?
Why would a MTX nightmare for your wallet be a 'great' idea?I think this is a great idea
thats funny considering FIFA22 has a next gen version that cant even run on ps4/xb1... machine learning animations has the potential to be a game changerYou miss the point. I'm saying it could also run on android - the game isn't vastly superior in any way.
update from the "leak"
Because it normally is included with the game at no extra charge.If it's a one time charge then it's no different than buying any game like you usually would. What is the problem with that?
Man I hope this is true but can you really see a publisher promoting a game with the worst looking version? I mean, you don't need to have a marketing degree to know that featuring the next-gen version would create more hype.update from the "leak"
Because it normally is included with the game at no extra charge.
Removing it and now asking for payment to play an OFFLINE mode is crazy.
What next? Start charging to play the 2nd half of games?
The issue is that they are going to charge for an offline game mode that was included in previous editions for no extra cost.The game doesn't cost anything for the base online game The offline ML mode will cost you. Again, what is the issue?
The issue is that they are going to charge for an offline game mode that was included in previous editions for no extra cost.
They have locked an offline game mode behind a paywall. That's madness.
What are YOU talking about?What are you even talking about? The previous games were full price for the base game (online and offline), they were not F2P. The only difference is that you can download and play for free online now but have to pay for the ML mode.
According to your logic all games lock their offline modes behind a paywall if it costs any money to play.
How is that different from now buying the game? The multiplayer right now is free to play, it just doesn’t release first.The game is F2P...... but if you want to play ML offline... there is a charge.
You are going to be charged to play offline.
Wow.
Then the game is not free to play.....How is that different from now buying the game? The multiplayer right now is free to play, it just doesn’t release first.
As much as it disgusts me i'm actually eyeing Fifa for the first time, since, the Ps1 I think..I'm not sure, but I'm getting the game anyway as it's free. I didn't buy a football game in a while.
Only the MP is F2PThen the game is not free to play.....
Then it's not a F2P game then is it?Only the MP is F2P
because it's Konami, I actually can. The same company that thought it was a great idea to release book of memories, SH HDC, and Downpour all around the same time.Man I hope this is true but can you really see a publisher promoting a game with the worst looking version? I mean, you don't need to have a marketing degree to know that featuring the next-gen version would create more hype.
I am not defending it is a F2P game. You are correct. The game is released in 2 pieces and has a F2P mode.Then it's not a F2P game then is it?
It has a F2P game MODE.
I'm not saying you are defending it and I apologize if I came off like that.I am not defending it is a F2P game. You are correct. The game is released in 2 pieces and has a F2P mode.