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Brazilian Playstion fans are getting mad at Sonys lack of regional pricing.

Kagey K

Kagey K

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www.tecmundo.com.br

Jogos PlayStation Hits registram aumento de preço em 24% no Brasil

God of War, Uncharted 4, Until Dawn e Bloodborne estão entre os jogos que ficaram mais caros
www.tecmundo.com.br www.tecmundo.com.br

Spiritfarer
PS Store: R$124,90
Microsoft Store: R$57,45

Hades
PS Store: R$124,90
Microsoft Store: R$92,45

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
PS Store: R$274,90
Microsoft Store: R$199,00

Dead By Daylight 12500 Cells (ingame currency)
PS Store: R$534,90
Microsoft Store: R$199,00

In May, Sony announced a 33% price increase in PlayStation Plus subscriptions, while on Tuesday (29) PlayStation Hits games also appeared on the PS Store with higher values, these having a 24% increase. Both decisions motivated Brazilian players to create a Twitter campaign for the company to give up on readjusting values.

With the “PlayStationLowerPrices” and "PlayHasLimits" hashtags, the action has already spread and is gaining momentum. It started with user “schott”, who even pointed out differences in game prices between the PS Store and the Microsoft Store. In his example, he cited Ninja Gaiden Master Collection: R$184.95 on Xbox and R$214.90 in the Sony store.

YoU pAY for QuAliTy
 
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Airbus Jr

Airbus Jr

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Amen brother God bless Xbox

Hail to the X

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Kagey K

Kagey K

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ZehDon said:
Nah, they’re lying. NeoGAF told me that they’d pay gladly AUD$200+ for their PlayStation games because PlayStation fans aren’t poor, and only broke-ass poor people care about game prices.
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There is a section about how they are already paying near scalper prices at retail that I omitted just to try to avoid the console war.

Lack of regional pricing has them paying out the ass right from the console purchase itself.
 
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Outrunner

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Isn't like evertyhing more expensive in Brazil because of your import policies? Also a lot of people create accounts in onther countries in order to get digital games cheaper, maybe that's what they are trying to tackle. A lot of Gamepass subscribers do it through a Brazilian account because it's a lot cheaper than in Europe. Actually just checked, and R$ 99,50 is 16,5 euro which is actually less than we pay in Europe for those games (19,99), they are just adjusting prices.
 
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dcmk7

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Its all unfair from Sony and is worth discussing properly.

Feel that's not going to happen since OP signed off their post in an idiotic fashion with "YoU pAY for QuAliTy" suggesting they would rather use this opportunity to fuel another console war thread.
 
Skifi28

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dwish said:
Maybe your sarcasm wooshed over my head but 80 euros = 95 usd. 70 usd would be 60 euros
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Yeah, I didn't phrase that very well, but it's exactly as you said. We should be paying closer to 60 and yet the price is 80 for whatever reason. Not to mention that the EU is not one state, some countries have 1/4 the income of others, it's kinda fucked up.
 
LMJ

LMJ

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Sounds like an issue with regional taxes etc...

Sony had a similar issue with the PS4



here's the article...sounds like a pain

www.npr.org

Sony Explains Why Its PlayStation 4 Costs $1,845 In Brazil

The steep cost isn't a case of price-gouging, the company says, but a sign of Brazil's heavy taxes and fees on imported electronics. Prospective customers say it could be cheaper to fly to the U.S. to buy the game console.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
 
Kagey K

Kagey K

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LMJ said:
Sounds like an issue with regional taxes etc...

Sony had a similar issue with the PS4



here's the article...sounds like a pain

www.npr.org

Sony Explains Why Its PlayStation 4 Costs $1,845 In Brazil

The steep cost isn't a case of price-gouging, the company says, but a sign of Brazil's heavy taxes and fees on imported electronics. Prospective customers say it could be cheaper to fly to the U.S. to buy the game console.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
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So why would digital games cost the sane?
 
The Shepard

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TrueLegend said:
Sony is the worst company in terms of game pricing. Their online store is worst than microsoft which is saying something. They want 70$ pricing for the whole world which is fucked up.
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This is for "next gen" only games which xbox has none, so you can't compare just yet. I don't agree with the extra cost myself but you forgot to add that point. Also with having feet in both eco systems the psn sales are massively better than the xbox ones with bigger savings and loads more games on sale. Psn credit is much cheaper than xbox credit. So the xbox network is actually more expensive for me to go digital than the psn.
 
Kagey K

Kagey K

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The Shepard said:
This is for "next gen" only games which xbox has none, so you can't compare just yet. I don't agree with the extra cost myself but you forgot to add that point. Also with having feet in both eco systems the psn sales are massively better than the xbox ones with bigger savings and loads more games on sale. Psn credit is much cheaper than xbox credit. So the xbox network is actually more expensive for me to go digital than the psn.
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Jesus. No.

Want to see a next gen only PS exclusive published by Microsoft?

Deathloop is 59.99 Day 1.

As far as sale prices go, they are reactively similar and pricing goes back and forth. Especially on the weekly deals.


This is uninformed bias at its finest. And not what to do on a multiplatform forum.
 
LMJ

LMJ

Member
Kagey K said:
So why would digital games cost the sane?
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Couldn't tell you... I don't know Brazillian law in this context...

But FYI there didn't use to be any tax in the US on digital titles...now there is, so laws can effect these things.

There's an old saying, Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

AKA maybe it's Sony greed, or possibly yet another stupid tax law that effects Brazil
 
ZehDon

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LMJ said:
Couldn't tell you... I don't know Brazillian law in this context...

But FYI there didn't use to be any tax in the US on digital titles...now there is, so laws can effect these things.

There's an old saying, Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

AKA maybe it's Sony greed, or possibly yet another stupid tax law that effects Brazil
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Heh, no. I'll speak for the Australian market, since this is where I'm from.

Sony charges USD$70 per game in the US, which is roughly AUD$90.00 on a good day - so let's round up to AUD$95.00 per game for an equivalent price. How much does Sony charge for a game in Australia? Sony charge AUD$125.00 per game. Last generation, they charged AUD$100.00 per game. They increased the prices by 25% this generation. Why? Some obscure Australian tax? Not at all - taxation in Australia is actually extremely fair for imported luxury goods like games and game consoles. No, they did it because they can. They're not dumb, not at all - look around, the Sony die-hards are "happy to pay more", and Sony is smart to fleece them while they can.
 
The Shepard

The Shepard

Member
Kagey K said:
Jesus. No.

Want to see a next gen only PS exclusive published by Microsoft?

Deathloop is 59.99 Day 1.

As far as sale prices go, they are reactively similar and pricing goes back and forth. Especially on the weekly deals.


This is uninformed bias at its finest. And not what to do on a multiplatform forum.
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Deathloop was 60 before the microsoft acquisition and was nothing to do with microsoft, microsoft have no next gen exclusives to compare the 70 to. No the sales are better on psn, I purchase from both every week. Don't believe me, gamertag/psn XANDEO. You can add me on both then let's see who's the biased one, I support both systems.
 
marquimvfs

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Most digital prices here are stupid. Microsoft's ones are a little better. That's why every sensate gamer go physical (and grey market, when possible).
 
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ANIMAL1975

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Kagey K said:
www.tecmundo.com.br

Jogos PlayStation Hits registram aumento de preço em 24% no Brasil

God of War, Uncharted 4, Until Dawn e Bloodborne estão entre os jogos que ficaram mais caros
www.tecmundo.com.br www.tecmundo.com.br

Spiritfarer
PS Store: R$124,90
Microsoft Store: R$57,45

Hades
PS Store: R$124,90
Microsoft Store: R$92,45

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
PS Store: R$274,90
Microsoft Store: R$199,00

Dead By Daylight 12500 Cells (ingame currency)
PS Store: R$534,90
Microsoft Store: R$199,00

In May, Sony announced a 33% price increase in PlayStation Plus subscriptions, while on Tuesday (29) PlayStation Hits games also appeared on the PS Store with higher values, these having a 24% increase. Both decisions motivated Brazilian players to create a Twitter campaign for the company to give up on readjusting values.

With the “PlayStationLowerPrices” and "PlayHasLimits" hashtags, the action has already spread and is gaining momentum. It started with user “schott”, who even pointed out differences in game prices between the PS Store and the Microsoft Store. In his example, he cited Ninja Gaiden Master Collection: R$184.95 on Xbox and R$214.90 in the Sony store.

YoU pAY for QuAliTy
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Is ManaByte ManaByte ok, he's the one that been giving us this Playstation informative threads,

On OP, i think Brasil has written a long time ago its fate when they apart from our great Portuguese empire, this is just the universe coming at them,
sorry my brother Brasílian Gaffers.
 
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Rhazer Fusion

Rhazer Fusion

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This is all the more reason I will never understand why so many people embrace digital gaming and ridicule physical media, but then complain that the pricing is too high, stays high and the refund policy is very strict. I mean it’s convenient and all, but who wants to be at the mercy of the digital store prices at all times and even be stuck with an expensive game you don’t like?
 
LMJ

LMJ

Member
ZehDon said:
Heh, no. I'll speak for the Australian market, since this is where I'm from.
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Appreciate that in regards to AU...but it doesn't help with knowing Brazillian tax law
ZehDon said:
Sony charges USD$70 per game in the US, which is roughly AUD$90.00 on a good day - so let's round up to AUD$95.00 per game for an equivalent price.
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The cost of living in AU is a good deal more than America as well...might want to mention that so the price doesn't seem so unfair lol

Cost of living in United States compared to Australia

Cost of living in United States compared to Australia. We provide several metrics to compare the cost of living including cost of groceries, transportation, and more.
www.mylifeelsewhere.com www.mylifeelsewhere.com

ZehDon said:
How much does Sony charge for a game in Australia? Sony charge AUD$125.00 per game.
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That's rough...Most digital prices are ridonkulous sans sales... With tax a new PS5 game is nearly 80$ here (more expensive depending on state)

luckily even in the "Down Under" there are ways to avoid that stupidity

www.techtimes.com

PS5 Games Are on Sale At Amazon AU Right Now and They're Pretty Cheap

If you've been hunting for new PS5 games to play, then go to Amazon Australia right now and get excellent deals on a handful of great PlayStation 5 games before time runs out.
www.techtimes.com www.techtimes.com
ZehDon said:
Last generation, they charged AUD$100.00 per game. They increased the prices by 25% this generation. Why? Some obscure Australian tax? Not at all - taxation in Australia is actually extremely fair for imported luxury goods like games and game consoles. No, they did it because they can.
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Yes the price hike is stupid, yes I hate that decision...and sadly no as PS5's and their games sell like...well PS5s (hotcakes are overrated) it likely won't stop.

That having been said though, this WAS going to happen eventually, the costs of development have never been higher and inflation was GOING to hit video games again eventually. Sucks it was Sony to give it a try...)(&#(*^#%)( price hike!

ZehDon said:
They're not dumb, not at all - look around, the Sony die-hards are "happy to pay more", and Sony is smart to fleece them while they can.
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Gee it's like I stated that was a possibility "AKA maybe it's Sony greed"
 
Skifi28

Skifi28

Member
Godot25 said:
Well there is one easy answer for everyone complaining about high price of games.

(Gamepass)
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That's not much of an answer. What happens when they double the price and you don't want to keep paying? You're left with nothing for all the money you've already spend. A rental service is not a solution to regional pricing.
 
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Guilty_AI

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Yes, sony has some rather ridiculous pricing here.
For example, Divinity Original Sin 2 costs 90,99 BRL on Steam while it costs 249,99 BRL on PS store and its far from the only example of such disparage

Rhazer Fusion said:
This is all the more reason I will never understand why so many people embrace digital gaming and ridicule physical media, but then complain that the pricing is too high, stays high and the refund policy is very strict. I mean it’s convenient and all, but who wants to be at the mercy of the digital store prices at all times and even be stuck with an expensive game you don’t like?
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Personally, i think the digital market only sucks on consoles. Its in a much better place on PC in terms of pricing and different stores with different deals.
 
Banjo64

Banjo64

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The Shepard said:
Deathloop was 60 before the microsoft acquisition and was nothing to do with microsoft, microsoft have no next gen exclusives to compare the 70 to. No the sales are better on psn, I purchase from both every week. Don't believe me, gamertag/psn XANDEO. You can add me on both then let's see who's the biased one, I support both systems.
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It’s not about next gen exclusives. All of the Sony’s cross gen games including MM and Sackboy are £10 more on PS5 compared to PS4.

Microsoft’s cross gen games are the same price - Psychonauts 2, Forza Horizon 5 are £54.99 (not £69.99) and if you have Game Pass you get a launch date discount. Their only next generation only game is Flight Sim is £59.99 (not £69.99) but £47.99 day one if you have Game Pass.
 
Kenpachii

Kenpachii

Member
I honestly wonder how much software gets sold in the EU territory. I just can't see people buying 80 euro games when corona buy spree is over.
 
Jigsaah

Jigsaah

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Brand loyalty comes at a steep price if the brand doesn't reciprocate it seems. Hopefully Sony fixes this.
 
yamaci17

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LMJ said:
Couldn't tell you... I don't know Brazillian law in this context...

But FYI there didn't use to be any tax in the US on digital titles...now there is, so laws can effect these things.

There's an old saying, Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

AKA maybe it's Sony greed, or possibly yet another stupid tax law that effects Brazil
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its not actually law

its importer's greed, most of the time

goes like this:

importer company A imports the game. importing has its own taxes and stuff, so price gets bloated

sony tries to implement regional pricing, tries to sell the game more cheaper

importer company A realizes they can't compete in terms of pricing with digital store

importer company A freaks out and complains to government about the situation being unfair

before any action takes place, sony fears that they will be faced with consequences, so they back out on their regional pricing (because they know that the government will side with importer)

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here's the sum of the story

and this is why PC versions can get better regional pricing, because importing of "physical" PC games are pretty much non existent on countries like Brazil anymore
 
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Raekwon26

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johnsilverwick said:
its not actually law

its importer's greed, most of the time

goes like this:

importer company A imports the game. importing has its own taxes and stuff, so price gets bloated

sony tries to implement regional pricing, tries to sell the game more cheaper

importer company A realizes they can't compete in terms of pricing with digital store

importer company A freaks out and complains to government about the situation being unfair

before any action takes place, sony fears that they will be faced with consequences, so they back out on their regional pricing (because they know that the government will side with importer)

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here's the sum of the story

and this is why PC versions can get better regional pricing, because importing of "physical" PC games are pretty much non existent on countries like Brazil anymore
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You think that's the case here? Genuine question.
 
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