its probably coming to pc?Nope, but the wording gives it away. Sony is publishing THEIR games. Sony doesnt own the IPs in these cases. The bungie studio was created in 2018 way before sony got involved.
PlayStation and Firewalk Studios announce publishing partnership for a new, original multiplayer IP
Firewalk’s AAA team sets its sights on creating memorable multiplayer moments for players.blog.playstation.com
Also the job listings ask for multiplat engine experience.
- You have a lot of experience developing an optimized multi-platform graphics code taking advantage of each platform to its fullest.
While studio acquisitions are larger in scale, they are both done with the same goal in mind.In either case, the purchase is made to make money off the investment so none of that really matters. Either way, Microsoft needed a purchase like Zenimax a heck of a lot more than Sony did.
The "arms race" being discussed isn't about timed exclusives. It is about studio acquisitions.
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Sony and Nintendo need their console and games to succeed or they go-under. Microsoft can coast in 3rd place in the gaming space forever and they wouldn't care as long as people are engaged in their ecosystem. Xbox is a support division for Microsoft, PlayStation and Nintendo are core pillars of their respective companies.These 2-trillion are so important for gaming that 20 years after MS debbuted on consoles Xbox continues being the 3rd and Sony continues being the 1st.
They won't stay losing money forever. It's quite clear they want out of the hardware business imo.Sony and Nintendo need their console and games to succeed or they go-under. Microsoft can coast in 3rd place in the gaming space forever and they wouldn't care as long as people are engaged in their ecosystem. Xbox is a support division for Microsoft, PlayStation and Nintendo are core pillars of their respective companies.
Game is included in GamePass, so I'll have an extra $70 burning in my pocketEnjoy it and don't forget to save money for starships skins
While studio acquisitions are larger in scale, they are both done with the same goal in mind.
A company that wants to exit hardware business yet is investing in making their own in-house processor chips and are already working on the successor to Xbox Series X...makes sense???They won't stay losing money forever. It's quite clear they want out of the hardware business imo.
Enjoy my friendGame is included in GamePass, so I'll have an extra $70 burning in my pocket
Server pcs and tablets... no mention of xbox. What else you got?A company that wants to exit hardware business yet is investing in making their own in-house processor chips and are already working on the successor to Xbox Series X...makes sense???
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...signing-its-own-chips-for-servers-surface-pcs
Both of which are hardware.Server pcs and tablets...
Sure, but it seems implied to me that by paying for launch exclusives and the like, you are partaking in an "arms race". I see what you are saying - the question is framing the arms race as being one of studio acquisitions, and nothing else.That's fine, but that isn't what Hulst was being asked about at all. Here is the question:
"There are a lot of companies making acquisitions in gaming at the moment. Microsoft just bought Bethesda for $7.5 billion, Facebook has scooped up a lot of developers in the VR space of late and now Sony is purchasing Housemarque. Looking at the industry from the outside, it feels like a bit of an arms race. Is that how you see it, Hermen?"
Nothing about timed exclusives.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/housemarque-sony-playstation-acquisition
Their position with Zenimax according to the Xbox CFO is that their future games will be 'first or best on Xbox' (in both cases means they can be released on PlayStation) and Phil said they will continue supporting the communities they have in other consoles (after the purchase they kept releasing new content, DLC and updates on PS for their games) and that they must release some stuff due to contractual reasons (without mentioning Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo, meaning that it's likely to be more games like maybe Indiana Jones because maybe they agreed with Lucas to release it as multi).The fact is, they were upfront from the get go with Minecraft, they said several times they would not take it away from other platforms.Their position with Zenimax is totally different.
You realize that OP and myself were talking about studio acquisitions in general right? I wasn't exactly sure why you responded to my post with anecdotal evidence of sony "technically" having enough cash to buy Bethesda but sure.But you said they can't afford to. That's different than "they can afford but Microsoft can afford more."
We know that your US tech companies are living in a bubble. They are the new GE and Exxon.
Yes, Nintendo and Sony won't get rid about their consoles because they are important for them. Xbox isn't important for MS and some day may get rid of it, specially if their plans of moving their gaming business to PC and mobile (and particularly to a subscription) works out.Sony and Nintendo need their console and games to succeed or they go-under. Microsoft can coast in 3rd place in the gaming space forever and they wouldn't care as long as people are engaged in their ecosystem. Xbox is a support division for Microsoft, PlayStation and Nintendo are core pillars of their respective companies.
Sony and Nintendo won't give if Zenimax stops releasing games an DLC on PS5 and Switch because Zenimax game sales were a tiny portion of PS4 and Switch/WiiU/3DS game sales, specially when compared to their 1st party output.
And we still have to see if Zenimax games announced as exclusive really will be full console exclusives instead of only timed console exclusives. Remember that the Xbox CEO said their strategy for Bethesda was 'first or best on Xbox', Phil said they were going to support their existing communities on other platforms and that also had contractual stuff etc.
MS will continue being the 3rd after the Zenimax purchase, and not only selling hardware, but also regarding total game sales and total with exclusive game sales too.
Yep, he announced that. But in the past Microsoft and Sony announced dozens of games as exclusive, and some time later they turned out to be timed console exclusives.I think Phil Spencer said Starfield and the other Bethesda game they announced as exclusive to Xbox.
I agree with MS still being 3rd, its not gonna change much
After deathloop and that tokyo ghost game, I would be really surprised to see other Bethesda games releasing on Playstation.Yep, he announced that. But in the past Microsoft and Sony announced dozens of games as exclusive, and some time later they turned out to be timed console exclusives.
Sony created the SpiderMan IP?
Oh no, Sony you don't get to pick if your in a arms race. You get to pick if you want to join or not, see you're no longer the big fish in the pond and MS is not Sega. See you picked this fight years ago with MS and now they've come to play you decide to run from the game???“We're very selective about the developers that we bring in,” Hulst said. “Our last new acquisition was Insomniac [for $229 million in 2019], which has worked out very well. I'm always looking for people that have a similar set of values, similar creative ambitions and work very well with our team that we can further invest in and help grow as creators. It's not like we're going around and just making random acquisitions.”
Sony Is Not in an 'Arms Race’ With Microsoft, Says PlayStation Boss - IGN
PlayStation boss Hermen Hulst has said that Sony is not in a studio acquisition race against other platform holders.www.ign.com
That last sentence should quell the "Sony should buy" talk as they clearly have a defined strategy...
Jesus christ. I'm sorry. I should have been more specific. Xbox hardware. Consoles. Where is this quote you have of the series x successor in the works?Both of which are hardware.
Oh no, Sony you don't get to pick if your in a arms race. You get to pick if you want to join or not, see you're no longer the big fish in the pond and MS is not Sega. See you picked this fight years ago with MS and now they've come to play you decide to run from the game???
I would be careful about all those timed exclusives from Square. FF7, FF16 and now Forspoken. It reminds me of that speculation that after DeathLoop, Ghostwire Tokyo Jim was trying to sign Starfield as a timed exclusive which forced Phil's hand
Didn't that joke / argument / wish expire when we learned Elder Scrolls is still in design phase? I'm not even kidding.people still in here coping about bethesda
They won't stay losing money forever. It's quite clear they want out of the hardware business imo.
New Xbox console hardware is in the works, confirms Microsoft | TechRadarJesus christ. I'm sorry. I should have been more specific. Xbox hardware. Consoles. Where is this quote you have of the series x successor in the works?
It should've expired on June 13 but here we are lmaoDidn't that joke / argument / wish expire when we learned Elder Scrolls is still in design phase? I'm not even kidding.
that dreamThey won't stay losing money forever. It's quite clear they want out of the hardware business imo.
I'm referring to the story that has its own thread where it was said you should consider it still in design phase.Are you referring to the "rumor" posted yesterday? Come on
I'd argue that, in the video game space, Sony is definitely Goliath. Xbox is David with a fist full of steroid needles and a point to prove.Seeing lots of posts saying Sony can’t compete financially with Microsoft, as if it’s a David vs Goliath scenario, and these folks are on the side of Goliath.
I'm referring to the story that has its own thread where it was said you should consider it still in design phase.
Oh no, Sony you don't get to pick if your in a arms race. You get to pick if you want to join or not, see you're no longer the big fish in the pond and MS is not Sega. See you picked this fight years ago with MS and now they've come to play you decide to run from the game???
They don't want out of the hardware business. They just want to move away from the razor and blades business model that video game companies have been following for years now.They won't stay losing money forever. It's quite clear they want out of the hardware business imo.
Not necessarily, just means they are trying to stack the most resources.To be in an "arms race" wouldn't they be after the same developers? I doubt Microsoft was going after HouseMarque and Bluepoint prior to this acquisition.
Idk. Not long ago people were saying Sony was anti consumer and now they're the ones buying a studio that doesn't take games away from the competition.Just last week people were saying MS buying studios is bad for the industry and studio acquisitions is bad bad for the industry. How do they feel now
I wasn't saying that. Just saying they have more available funds for acquisitions.People keep saying this, but that hasn't helped them in the last 20 years.
Probably because their war chest does not equal how much the Xbox Division can spend.
Same with Sony and the Playstation Division.
The difference is one is the market leader and the other is not.
You keep thinking that. It wasn't that long ago MS was about the pull the plug on the console division. I really hope MS is able to keep their console sales up as they focus on Game Pass and PC. MS needs their consoles just as much as the others to support Game Pass. At least for the foreseeable future.Sony and Nintendo need their console and games to succeed or they go-under. Microsoft can coast in 3rd place in the gaming space forever
Ok, so where is the Microsoft war chest in your scenario? Far as I know, David didn’t have $7.5b+ to buy off the Philistines...I'd argue that, in the video game space, Sony is definitely Goliath. Xbox is David with a fist full of steroid needles and a point to prove.