OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
The Bluepoint rumor. Which is another thread you're in. You're in every thread tangentially related talking about it. Why does this bother you so? It doesn't hurt Microsoft in any way.
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Sony Is Not in an 'Arms Race’ With Microsoft, Says PlayStation Boss
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James Sawyer Ford
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Nope, but the wording gives it away. Sony is publishing THEIR games. Sony doesnt own the IPs in these cases. The bungie studio was created in 2018 way before sony got involved.
PlayStation and Firewalk Studios announce publishing partnership for a new, original multiplayer IP
Firewalk’s AAA team sets its sights on creating memorable multiplayer moments for players.blog.playstation.com
Also the job listings ask for multiplat engine experience.
- You have a lot of experience developing an optimized multi-platform graphics code taking advantage of each platform to its fullest.
yes they are publishing, they may also own the IP as that’s usually how Sony operates when publishing.
Sony owns Returnal IP prior to buying HMQ
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Meanwhile, at MSFT:
Nope, but the wording gives it away. Sony is publishing THEIR games. Sony doesnt own the IPs in these cases. The bungie studio was created in 2018 way before sony got involved.
PlayStation and Firewalk Studios announce publishing partnership for a new, original multiplayer IP
Firewalk’s AAA team sets its sights on creating memorable multiplayer moments for players.
Also the job listings ask for multiplat engine experience.
- You have a lot of experience developing an optimized multi-platform graphics code taking advantage of each platform to its fullest.
Not really evidence they are working on time exclusives. Majority of the time Sony publish games it's for IPs they want to own, there are obviously exceptions like piisbing Nioh in Japan.
Killer Sakoman
Member
They didn't say they don't do exclusives. Sony is sll about exclusives and blocking xbox from accessing great games.But will money hat random games for timed exclusivity.
Weren’t they knocking at everyone’s door to sign deals?
Sony has reportedly approached all major third-party developers with exclusivity deals
A new report claims that Sony has approached all major third-party companies for PlayStation 5 exclusivity deals of sorts, and offered considerably more than Microsoft in terms of monetary value.www.neowin.net
Here Herman says that they don't buy random developers which makes sense. You don't buy random developer who may or may not deliver. When you spend 200 to 500 million dollats, you spend it wisely. You buy developers that you already tested and know they will deliver. This is business, a good one.
They also buy exclusivity of games that have high potential and is developing by well known developers/ publishers.
Killer Sakoman
Member
Can you google how much cash in hands Sony has and convince me why it is not enough to buy Bethesda?I mean... they literally can't afford to
If you claim something bring evidence or you are worth being banned.
Yeah a relationship so strong that their two most imminent releases happen to be PlayStation console exclusives.
VAVA Mk2
Member
Except Microsoft has a much larger war chest to purchase more studios and publishers...Shots fired. Phil "Random Acquisitions" Spencer.
It’s not for lack of attempts from Microsoft, it’s just that when it comes to paid console exclusives, Microsoft has to mostly settle for the scraps (Call of the Sea, The Medium, etc).But will money hat random games for timed exclusivity.
Weren’t they knocking at everyone’s door to sign deals?
Sony has reportedly approached all major third-party developers with exclusivity deals
A new report claims that Sony has approached all major third-party companies for PlayStation 5 exclusivity deals of sorts, and offered considerably more than Microsoft in terms of monetary value.
In case you are wondering why, well for starters, there is a far bigger install base on PlayStation, and Microsoft nurturing their user base to avoid paying full price for games (mostly due to Game Pass) surely is not going to help them secure top tier timed exclusive games (unless they pay a lot of money to ensure the games come out day and date on GP).
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Translation. We are winning handily and we don't need to throw money around. Fixed that for you.
bender
What time is it?
Hitchyhero
Banned
Just last week people were saying MS buying studios is bad for the industry and studio acquisitions is bad bad for the industry. How do they feel now
LQX
Member
Sony kind of created this monster, going back even last gen, and they were seemingly going after bigger and bigger games and word is they were locking up even more games this gen. For a good while all the talk was pretty much what's the next big third-party exclusive Sony will locking-up to keep from MS....now all the talk is what's the next third-party studio MS will buying to keep from Sony.
Also, I think MS is and was way more conciliatory in regards to games they own appearing on Sony's console. If Sony owned Minecraft that thing would be gone from every other console but their own, and there would not even be speculation on weather games from id or Bethesda would be appearing on any other console but a Sony.
Also, I think MS is and was way more conciliatory in regards to games they own appearing on Sony's console. If Sony owned Minecraft that thing would be gone from every other console but their own, and there would not even be speculation on weather games from id or Bethesda would be appearing on any other console but a Sony.
The Pleasure
Member
Phil Spender using daddies money to buy shit isn't showing up until it bears fruit. Right now it's the rich kid everyone hates and pretends to be okay with to play with their shit. That's Microsoft's MO.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Seems like it's personal for you. Not for me.
Why would he be careful about making deals with 3rd party companies? You do realize not every publisher wants to be sold just like Zenimax was (after the FO76 fiasco), nor the fact that all publishers are privately owned like Bethesda was, from the moment phil enters SE/SEGA/Ubisoft, or any publicly traded company doors the rumors would immediately start rolling, not from typical Grubbhub but from reliable ones like Bloomberg simply because the Shareholders are the one to leak to increase the price/stocks
Nintendo also does similar deals btw (like MHR timed exclusivity)
DarthMurgus
Neo Member
Quality over quantity 
RaZoR No1
Member
Do we have an actual number/list of studios owned by Sony, MS and Nintendo?
Currently Sony and Nintendo are more efficient with their studios and release games with good reviews.
On Sony's side, nearly all first party games are always at the top of the rating charts.
Nintendo is Nintendo
ATM MS has the quantity, but IMO not the quality like Sony studios.
Only MS studio that managed to deliver all the time is Playground Games and hopefully will continue to deliver with Fable and FH5.
All other studios have to prove themselves or had good and bad games. IMO even Bethesda in general has to show they can still do it again, after releasing a lot of unfished/buggy games.
Currently Sony and Nintendo are more efficient with their studios and release games with good reviews.
On Sony's side, nearly all first party games are always at the top of the rating charts.
Nintendo is Nintendo
ATM MS has the quantity, but IMO not the quality like Sony studios.
Only MS studio that managed to deliver all the time is Playground Games and hopefully will continue to deliver with Fable and FH5.
All other studios have to prove themselves or had good and bad games. IMO even Bethesda in general has to show they can still do it again, after releasing a lot of unfished/buggy games.
Zeroing
Banned
IGN spins this as a clickbait and people fall for it.
He’s talking about how some gamers were vocal on why didn’t Sony buys studios in response of MS.
Basically what he is saying is, if there’s future acquisitions they will take time and be thoughtful.
For those saying they can’t afford it, Look at Sony as a whole! They brought a lot of things, just not game related!
the story here is how some fans get so delusional after MS spending spree they invented the “acquisitions rumors” as another console war fuel.
He’s talking about how some gamers were vocal on why didn’t Sony buys studios in response of MS.
Basically what he is saying is, if there’s future acquisitions they will take time and be thoughtful.
For those saying they can’t afford it, Look at Sony as a whole! They brought a lot of things, just not game related!
the story here is how some fans get so delusional after MS spending spree they invented the “acquisitions rumors” as another console war fuel.
The Pleasure
Member
Nah. Just the truth. Everyone had that rich kid nobody liked growing up in the neighborhood.
PlayStaytion
Member
Guess we know who's the School Boy.
bender
What time is it?
Dolomite
Member
.....Because Bethesda would have cost Sony 20% of their Total Assets/Cash
they have 40B'sEven with a market cap of 124 Billion, Microsoft can afford to purchase Sony outright and have Money to burn.
No one is saying Sony is broke, hell they're Cash has increased nearly 30% this yr alone, but they aren't in the same conversation as MS, Apple, Google. It's as simple as 124B vs 2Trillion (Market cap) or 40 B vs 135 B (liquid assets)
bender
What time is it?
Harsh. I don't think Microsoft should give up on the console business just yet.
hemo memo
Gold Member
“Random” lol yeah Minecraft and Bethesda were so so random.Shots fired. Phil "Random Acquisitions" Spencer.
bender
What time is it?
If Microsoft were to buy Rockstar, that wouldn't get Europe to buy Xbox. They'd just stop playing Rockstar games.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
$44B and just $7B debt.
Sony Cash on Hand 2010-2023 | SONY
Sony cash on hand from 2010 to 2023. Cash on hand can be defined as cash deposits at financial institutions that can immediately be withdrawn at any time, and investments maturing in one year or less that are highly liquid and therefore regarded as cash equivalents and reported with or near cash...
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Astral Dog
Member
Sony should just buy Nintendo
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
They would be laughed out of the room just like MS was. The internet reactions and the memes would be priceless, however.
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Zenimax was once in a bluemoon acquisition. Microsoft will acquire studio but dont think they will go for such expensive acquisition again because it doesnt make financial sense. There is a reason why Zenimax wanted to sell their gaming division. Producing AAA games is difficult and has insane risk involved.
Microsoft needed publisher for its gamepass service. Sony has no need to for a publisher level acquisition. Hence the statement about not going for random company. But of course people start using it for dick measuring contest.
Microsoft needed publisher for its gamepass service. Sony has no need to for a publisher level acquisition. Hence the statement about not going for random company. But of course people start using it for dick measuring contest.
I like Sony's confidence despite the past few months, when you could have gotten the impression from certain media, message boards, comment sections, etc., that somehow Sony was misfiring left and right despite the sales numbers, demand, and pipeline of actual next gen games being released.
Darlingcognito
Member
Why? Cos they can't afford to that's why.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
MS is very fortunate to have windows/office etc. Thankfully for Sony, they don't have to buy everything.Why? Cos they can't afford to that's why.
Killer Sakoman
Member
But you said they can't afford to. That's different than "they can afford but Microsoft can afford more.".....Because Bethesda would have cost Sony 20% of their Total Assets/Cash
Even with a market cap of 124 Billion, Microsoft can afford to purchase Sony outright and have Money to burn.
No one is saying Sony is broke, hell they're Cash has increased nearly 30% this yr alone, but they aren't in the same conversation as MS, Apple, Google. It's as simple as 124B vs 2Trillion (Market cap) or 40 B vs 135 B (liquid assets)
We know that your US tech companies are living in a bubble. They are the new GE and Exxon.
Little Chicken
Member
I wonder what it was like being Jim Ryan when he found out Microsoft had acquired Bethesda...
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
treemk
Banned
In 5 years or less the general opinion of game pass will be much lower. It's in the honeymoon phase and they are willing to spend to get you hooked. I'm glad MS is doing well enough to keep Sony at their best but I'm also very happy Sony is sticking to a more traditional console model. I think Sony is better at a long term gaming focused plattform, MS just wants your monthly income.
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SupremeHoodie
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Lol like Sony could afford it.
CrimsonSquall
Member
Right. But does Xbox? Weak RoI won’t allow them to do this over and over again
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