-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
[DF] Retro: QUAKE
- Thread starter AeonGaidenRaiden
- Start date
- Community
twilo99
Member
Good stuff.
Its certainly one of the most important developments in the FPS realm. They really did set the course for all to follow..
This is a great read if you want to learn more about id software
Amazon.com: Masters of Doom: How Two Guys Created an Empire and Transformed Pop Culture (9780812972153): Kushner, David: Books
and great content here
Its certainly one of the most important developments in the FPS realm. They really did set the course for all to follow..
This is a great read if you want to learn more about id software
Amazon.com: Masters of Doom: How Two Guys Created an Empire and Transformed Pop Culture (9780812972153): Kushner, David: Books
and great content here
Last edited:
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Doczu
Member
When my buddy showed me Quake for the first time i was sitting there in silence.
In Poland around 96 people were gaming on NES clones, Amiga computers and some lucky bastards had Playstations. PCs were really expensive, especially if you wanted to game on them.
So I, coming from some Amiga games and Mario on my famiclone, just sat on a chair and for a minute i couldn't get a word out.
And then he showed me you could play online. Blew my mind for a second time in one day.
In Poland around 96 people were gaming on NES clones, Amiga computers and some lucky bastards had Playstations. PCs were really expensive, especially if you wanted to game on them.
So I, coming from some Amiga games and Mario on my famiclone, just sat on a chair and for a minute i couldn't get a word out.
And then he showed me you could play online. Blew my mind for a second time in one day.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
And yeah, all this was edited, filmed, tested, created by John himself.
FreedomOfSpeech
Banned
One of the better memories of gaming for me is being in 'school' in '97/'98 (whatever you would call that which comes after highschool).
We'd have these computer rooms where you could do work, and we'd get a key to the room and play quake deathmatch with at least 16 guys. We had to copy it to all machines using some crazy IPX copy tool, have one machine be the server, and we'd be fragging and shouting and having a great time for hours. It was glorious.
Fuck sake, the mice still had a ball back then.
We'd have these computer rooms where you could do work, and we'd get a key to the room and play quake deathmatch with at least 16 guys. We had to copy it to all machines using some crazy IPX copy tool, have one machine be the server, and we'd be fragging and shouting and having a great time for hours. It was glorious.
Fuck sake, the mice still had a ball back then.
Last edited:
tommib
Member
Please explain. I’m offended. Quake is P E R F E C T and timeless. Probably unparalleled in it’s gameplay.
KuraiShidosha
Member
I have been waiting for the next classic DF Retro to come out! And I don't think there could have been a better choice than Quake. Can't wait to watch this, these are bar none my favorite digital foundry videos.
tommib
Member
That looks like shit compared to Quake and there ‘s no gameplay on the video. No idea why Carmack would be surprised in this fan fiction alternate universe of yours.
Con-Z-epT
Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
He just likes to post one liners. Answering is not his thing. Don't bother with him.
I'm there with you. Quake is perfect and timeless.
Md Ray
Member
I read this in John Linneman's voice.
tommib
Member
I’ll just assume he never played it back in 1996 with a PowerVR 2. I played GL Quake for 4 years straight and still believe it’s the most enjoyable shooter ever made with the best and thickest atmosphere on a FPS.
Last edited:
Back in the quake/q2 day it was around the time that ball mice started getting phased out, and I distinctly remember playing way better with the analog based ball mice, especially for twitch style movements with the railgun and rocket launcher, my accuracy was just way better cause I think the analog ball was more consistent and also gave the mouse more weight to be able to throw it around and feel the tactile feedback. The only problem was having to clean the rollers every now and then.One of the better memories of gaming for me is being in 'school' in '97/'98 (whatever you would call that which comes after highschool).
We'd have these computer rooms where you could do work, and we'd get a key to the room and play quake deathmatch with at least 16 guys. We had to copy it to all machines using some crazy IPX copy tool, have one machine be the server, and we'd be fragging and shouting and having a great time for hours. It was glorious.
Fuck sake, the mice still had a ball back then.
stranno
Member
Calm down big boy. Of course it is a technical demo by a demoscene group, don't spect 30 chapters campaign for a showcase..
It is FAR more advanced than Quake. You should turn the screen on.
sunnysideup
Banned
As one of the forums resident n64 haters i have to say quake looked pretty good without that ugly smear filter.
Man the n64 was ruined by that ugly ass filter.
Man the n64 was ruined by that ugly ass filter.
tommib
Member
It is so much more advanced that it was never released. Right. Way to undermine the impact of a game that, well, changed everything.
stranno
Member
I haven't underestimate the impact of Quake, you are making that up..
tommib
Member
Look you’re the one coming on with a demo of skeletons in a cell moving at the pace of snails with a horrible fantasy soundtrack. Is it the shadows? There is a reason the game was cancelled. Maybe Quake came out and they were like, forget it, we’re done. Nothing in there looks better than the Quake menu demos or even the hub at 320x240.
Last edited:
Pretty cool, looks like Die by the Sword.
Holammer
Member
If you understood what you're looking at, the technology on display should leave you breathless. It had a skeletal system a decade before ID Tech 3 got it.
Fuz
Banned
As a "semi-semi" Q2 pro... first optical mouses were much less performant than ball ones, for games.
nkarafo
Member
The animations/models are better.
But the environments look like your average PS1 game. Not a match for Quake's complex maps and geometry.
Darlingcognito
Member
Oh nice video, I wonder what the new Quake games will be on? 
tommib
Member
The PowerVR PCX2 was super clean and ran at 800x600.
I would hardly call the 3DFX Glide shit though. It kickstarted the whole dedicated graphics card business and ran at 60 FPS. It was a you had to be there thing. A real revolution.
What is it with people coming here to shit on the God almighty Quake? Oh man, never change Gaf.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Why is Quake 2 on Xbox 360 stuck in oblivion.
twilo99
Member
They really nailed the physics with that engine at the time and they only got better all the way to Quake 3 and Quakelive. I still think that QL has one of the most satisfying movement mechanics out there, its truly stellar.
It is! That dev team was magic and it shows in their work.
It is! That dev team was magic and it shows in their work.
Last edited:
nkarafo
Member
Oh please, i was there. And it looked like shit then too, i just didn't know how much better software looked because i only played it on my 3DFX card. But later on i saw how much worse it looks. And that applies to Quake 2 as well.
Quake 1 is one of my favorite PC games ever made btw. I'm not shitting on the game. Just the 3DFX GL mode that looks washed out and way too blurry.
stranno
Member
The game speed is perfectly fine for a fantasy role playing game, if that was the scope of the game. Why would you need a fast pace game when you are using swords? Just compare Hexen 2 (close combat weapons) with Hexen 1 (magic range weapons).
I think they demo is just about the absolutely unbelievable characters and animations for a 1995 game, not exactly the sceneario. Quake levels are maybe my biggest complain with the game. DN3D featured far more complex levels and imaginative levels, Quake level design is a bit orthogonal for my taste. But it is not a big complain, in my opinion John Romero is still the best FPS level designer of all time (even Daikatana level design was okay-ish).
Last edited:
LazyParrot
Member
That didn't happen until way later. When Q3 came out everyone was still using ball mice, and even the Razer Boomslang, the first mouse made and advertised specifically for gaming in general and Quake 3 in particular, still used a ball when it released in 2000.
For me it felt like the turning point came around 2001/2002 when Microsoft updated the IntelliMouse Explorer/Optical to be more accurate and Logitech released the first all-optical MX series lineup.
