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TLOU Remastered with MP DLCs?
Md Ray
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Even Xbox Series is there, hardware-wise... But PC? Nope. Hardware-wise (not talking about SSD here) it's not there until it gets HW-accelerated decompression like the consoles and the software isn't there yet too, but once DirectStorage comes out, it will be there. Consoles are (at least PS5 is) ready and can run games like Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart that can do this today:
This is such a narrow-minded way of thinking.
PCs had SSDs for what? 10 years now? Why do you think game load times are still crappier when we had a 5x jump in speed from HDD to SATA SSD, but load times weren't exactly 5x faster? SATA SSD to NVMe was another 5x and more and there was even less of a difference there!
If DirectStorage had existed since SSDs became mainstream on PC then every single game in existence from that point on could have taken advantage of all kinds (SATA, NVMe) of SSDs in our PC. If you went from HDD to an NVMe, you would have gotten that 12-15x faster load times, not just 2x or 2.5x! But consoles are the first to get there atm, and PC is following along.
When you eliminate game load times by taking full advantage of the NVMe you put in, that's when you will be able to do stuff that you see in RnC. Atm PC isn't taking full advantage of NVMe even though you can put faster SSD than what's found inside PS5.
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A.Romero
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I don't know where this is coming from given that we are talking about Playstation ports but of course. Xbox hasn't had exclusives for years but it is still selling. Specially with gamepass is a great deal on consoles.
Blond
Banned
I have a series x so there you go.
I actually much preferred PC gaming till this started happening. The 1070 was the last GPU I purchased and I just don’t know what comes next cause even with inflation these prices just don’t make sense! I could easily see 500-550 for a top end GPU, but over a grand?????? I understand that it’s largely mining related but what about us who aren’t trying to get rich with crypto? My uncle managed to get a 3090 and is paying for it mining Ethyrium. Something’s gotta give because as it stands PC gaming is becoming very boutique.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Hey, it only works one way!
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
The best part here is that there are also Xbox console exclusives. So you have access to both Xbox exclusives AND Playstation exclusives
Street Fighter V, Halo, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Microsoft Flight Sim, Days Gone, Forza Horizon 4, Beyond: Two Souls, Gears 5, Death Stranding, State of Decay, Detroit: Become Human, Starfield, Deathloop, Age of Empires IV, GodFall, Sea of Thieves, Ghostwire: Tokyo, Grounded, etc
And that's on top of the PC games that will never been released on consoles.
Street Fighter V, Halo, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Microsoft Flight Sim, Days Gone, Forza Horizon 4, Beyond: Two Souls, Gears 5, Death Stranding, State of Decay, Detroit: Become Human, Starfield, Deathloop, Age of Empires IV, GodFall, Sea of Thieves, Ghostwire: Tokyo, Grounded, etc
And that's on top of the PC games that will never been released on consoles.
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Larxia
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Yes totally. Right now I'm keeping my 1080, and I will until things gets better. If it dies on me, honestly I really don't know what I would do, it would feel awful having to buy an entry model like a 60, for far more expensive than what I paid for my 80 back then.
And it's really not just scalpers prices, every store sell them at these prices, and even the MSRP prices are much higher than what they used to be.
Vognerful
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I admit my post was probably for cheap shot and GN comparison was to compare 120fps mode for 3 games.
VFXVeteran
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It's happening!
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Fredrik
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Yeah this is the way people should think. Many Sony fans already have a PC so the upside for them is that they’ll get their favorite Sony exclusives plus Xbox exclusives at higher fps and better graphics. Great games will get even better. What’s not to like?The best part here is that there are also Xbox console exclusives. So you have access to both Xbox exclusives AND Playstation exclusives
Street Fighter V, Halo, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Microsoft Flight Sim, Days Gone, Forza Horizon 4, Beyond: Two Souls, Gears 5, Death Stranding, State of Decay, Detroit: Become Human, Starfield, Deathloop, Age of Empires IV, GodFall, Sea of Thieves, Ghostwire: Tokyo, Grounded, etc
And that's on top of the PC games that will never been released on consoles.
I hope we’ll see Gran Turismo 7. The Forza games has been awesome on PC, triple screen and higher fps. FH3 on PC is awesome!
The real megaton would be cross saves so you don’t have to start over if you start on PC and then manage to buy a PS5 sometime in the future. MS has done it on Microsoft Store versions but on Steam they’re behind so Sony could one up them there.
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VFXVeteran
Banned
You can still get PS exclusives several months in advance.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Even Xbox Series is there, hardware-wise... But PC? Nope. Hardware-wise (not talking about SSD here) it's not there until it gets HW-accelerated decompression like the consoles and the software isn't there yet too, but once DirectStorage comes out, it will be there. Consoles are (at least PS5 is) ready and can run games like Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart that can do this today:
This is such a narrow-minded way of thinking.
PCs had SSDs for what? 10 years now? Why do you think game load times are still crappier when we had a 5x jump in speed from HDD to SATA SSD, but load times weren't exactly 5x faster? SATA SSD to NVMe was another 5x and more and there was even less of a difference there!
If DirectStorage had existed since SSDs became mainstream on PC then every single game in existence from that point on could have taken advantage of all kinds (SATA, NVMe) of SSDs in our PC. If you went from HDD to an NVMe, you would have gotten that 12-15x faster load times, not just 2x or 2.5x! But consoles are the first to get there atm, and PC is following along.
When you eliminate game load times by taking full advantage of the NVMe you put in, that's when you will be able to do stuff that you see in RnC. Atm PC isn't taking full advantage of NVMe even though you can put faster SSD than what's found inside PS5.
can’t wait for the PC port
VFXVeteran
Banned
Not true. If the game companies are refactoring their graphics engines for PC (ala GG for example), then Horizon: FW will be taylored to the PC as well as the PS5. Remember, while the PS5 currently can stream in assets faster than a PC can decompress and stream to VRAM, the PC has the main memory advantage and the GPU advantage. PS5 will still render the scene with less than ideal lighting/shading and resolution advantages. I'm sure that some of these games like Horizon will support DLSS on PC where there will be none on the PS5.
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Dream-Knife
Banned
The real question is, can he replace it?
I wouldn't mine with anything you can't replace.
VFXVeteran
Banned
The SSD->VRAM isn't going to be much of a problem for PC. Some wish it were the case, but devs know how to extract what they need. If it's coming out on PC later, then you can bet the marketing will be enhanced graphics and faster FPS for the PC version to draw the crowds.
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Reizo Ryuu
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This one is weird to list, because it's published by capcom and has been on pc since launch, it's not going to be part of the playstation studios page.
VFXVeteran
Banned
That doesn't make them any less classical. You should have seen when these games first came to PS4 and excited people were. Is every game that comes on the PC now going to be mitigated by saying its "old" and "given out for free on PSN"?
MiguelItUp
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Can't wait for Bloodborne to be on there... 
xBlueStonex
Member
If God of War comes to Steam, I'm selling my PS5 immediately. Sony make it happen!!!
Mabdia
Member
I can wait even more.
On PS4 age I just played 3 games in release year. Ghost of Tsushia and RE2 and 3.
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dr guildo
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I still think a Game like Ratchet is undoable on PC, even for the next 4 years...
Elder Legend
Banned
FrankWza
Member
Same people that will walk half a mile instead of using the valet because they don’t “trust” then and they enjoy walking.
dr guildo
Member
You were living in a cave for the whole last year ?
Sentenza
Member
Eh, who gives a shit, honestly. I'm not in a rush.
There are games I bought for my PS4 Pro and I ended up barely touching for months, if at all.
I'd still buy them again in a heartbeat on PC if I could actually play them with decent performances for a change (Bloodborne and Spider-man come to mind).
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yurinka
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For some reason their Publisher name in Steam is PlayStation Mobile (maybe the ones who handle part of their PC porting and publishing?), but I think two of the remaining games are Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and Guns up!, a couple of old 2nd party small games already published by Sony on PC while ago.
PS4 games, not PS5 games. So until they change their mind, their PS5 games remain as PS5 only (with MLB as exception). I assume they will wait many years to release their PS5 only games on PC, until the average mainstream PC has enough GPU, SSD and I/O to run them.
Well, until now Sony only published PS4 games on Steam and said they have more PS4 games coming to Steam.
PS4 games, not PS5 games. So until they change their mind, their PS5 games remain as PS5 only (with MLB as exception). I assume they will wait many years to release their PS5 only games on PC, until the average mainstream PC has enough GPU, SSD and I/O to run them.
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FrankWza
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I think one point too is the performance on PS5 and how PS4 games can an will continue to perform better on PS5. What benefits are you getting by waiting. Before pc could play a 1080p @30fps game at higher res @60 fps. But we’re already seeing that on PS5.
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Elder Legend
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No, but I think you still do. You realize games and developed and programmed on a PC first and foremost right? Or are you that guillable and naive to believe anything press releases and marketing PR tells you when they trying to convince you and the rest of the gaming fans to buy their products?
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Small John McCarthy
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I would like to play PSVR content on my PCVR, that would be awesome. No idea if that's in the pipeline though.
OceanGaming
Member
Even Xbox Series is there, hardware-wise... But PC? Nope. Hardware-wise (not talking about SSD here) it's not there until it gets HW-accelerated decompression like the consoles and the software isn't there yet too, but once DirectStorage comes out, it will be there. Consoles are (at least PS5 is) ready and can run games like Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart that can do this today:
This is such a narrow-minded way of thinking.
PCs had SSDs for what? 10 years now? Why do you think game load times are still crappier when we had a 5x jump in speed from HDD to SATA SSD, but load times weren't exactly 5x faster? SATA SSD to NVMe was another 5x and more and there was even less of a difference there!
If DirectStorage had existed since SSDs became mainstream on PC then every single game in existence from that point on could have taken advantage of all kinds (SATA, NVMe) of SSDs in our PC. If you went from HDD to an NVMe, you would have gotten that 12-15x faster load times, not just 2x or 2.5x! But consoles are the first to get there atm, and PC is following along.
When you eliminate game load times by taking full advantage of the NVMe you put in, that's when you will be able to do stuff that you see in RnC. Atm PC isn't taking full advantage of NVMe even though you can put faster SSD than what's found inside PS5.
How much do you want to bet?
Md Ray
Member
For what?
OceanGaming
Member
You think ...... poorly.
Derktron
Banned
Hmm what PC games?
OceanGaming
Member
For PC not being ready.
Md Ray
Member
Sure, pal. Go ahead and bet with Microsoft's senior program manager lead then because that's who said it.
And watch this presentation and educate yourself while you're at it.
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namekuseijin
Banned
but this is years from when games premier on Playstation.
but Xbox? Their games go pc day one.
Nintendo? emulator day 1.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Mass Effect going to PS3, Portal to consoles, Cross Play etc. made a lot of gamers optimistic about getting exclusives anywhere.
Kazza
Member
VFXVeteran
Banned
Yea, not going to be years. People think it's years because they are counting the time the PS4 game came out and assume that the developers knew they would be porting to PC at the time development began. That is not the case. The decision to port PC came down after HZ and other games were released. That's why companies like ND are going back and refactoring their engine to support PC releases. I'd say now after that decision 1yr would be tops in my opinion. We'll see.Only months, not years?
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DonJuanSchlong
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So... Triggered! You have anything to argue against the facts?So typical, so retarded, so old...
ratburger
Member
Sure, pal. Go ahead and bet with Microsoft's senior program manager lead then because that's who said it.
And watch this presentation and educate yourself while you're at it.
Did you watch the presentation? DirectStorage preview goes out to game developers this summer, so that they can report any bugs they experience. Final release is then maybe tail end of this year, which would line up perfectly for a PC Port of Ratchet and Clank, assuming Sony wants to keep it a PS5 exclusive for half a year.
Md Ray
Member
That'd be great. I for one can't wait to see more PlayStation games on PC. But I don't see a game like Rift Apart releasing on PC for a long, long time though. We'll see.
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Holammer
Member
Yes and there should be zero reason why linking accounts can't happen again. Yes, again.
They no doubt had big plans for this type of integration back then, but it was only ever implemented for Portal 2. When I speculate about Steam chat and other features coming to consoles in various GAF discussions, this is what I'm thinking about.
"Steam makes its appearance on the PS3 as an overlay within Portal 2. Here, the Steam overlay provides access to Steam Friends, displaying their in-game or online status and providing a quick pathway to text chats, player profiles, friend requests, and game invites. Steam Achievements are earned in lockstep with PSN Trophies and are also accessible within the Steam overlay."