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[VGT] Resident Evil Village DEMO: PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison
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DaGwaphics
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Must be some kind of defense mechanism. I'm not a fence sitter by any stretch of the imagination (I'm Xbox biased) and yet I am definitely aware of the craziness spread by Xbox fans in the build up. Hell, I even participated in most of it because it was just so easy to wind up a certain group back then (that Sony silence was killing them). How the Sony fans can be completely oblivious to how they were doing the same is beyond me. Honestly, their FUD was more pervasive just because of the greater number of generators. There is probably 5 fanboy YT channels for every one for Xbox thanks to PS4's performance last gen, same with all the forums etc. With all that considered, the Sony fanboy FUD just had more natural virality to it.
Basically the FUD was just flying everywhere as always, good times.
On topic, looks like the 1S needs that 30fps cap too. Hopefully that is something that will be looked at.
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John Wick
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Oh look pot kettle black......usual clowns
John Wick
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They did indeed.........
MasterCornholio
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Must be some kind of defense mechanism. I'm not a fence sitter by any stretch of the imagination (I'm Xbox biased) and yet I am definitely aware of the craziness spread by Xbox fans in the build up. Hell, I even participated in most of it because it was just so easy to wind up a certain group back then (that Sony silence was killing them). How the Sony fans can be completely oblivious to how they were doing the same is beyond me. Honestly, their FUD was more pervasive just because of the greater number of generators. There is probably 5 fanboy YT channels for every one for Xbox thanks to PS4's performance last gen, same with all the forums etc. With all that considered, the Sony fanboy FUD just had more natural virality to it.
Basically the FUD was just flying everywhere as always, good times.
Basically FUD was made then more FUD to counter that FUD. Some claims ended up true while others were proven false later on ( with these comparisons for example). Some people are happy with the current results while others are not. Just a cycle that tends to repeat itself over and over again.
But my personal opinion is that both systems are great value for the money. You really can't go wrong with either. It's not like you're buying a cheap underpowered chinese console with either of them. It's the way things should be especially given that both cost the same.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
They are great, got mine from there too for 42 pounds after rewards.
akaFullmetal
Member
Same performance across the board other than xss. The ps5 and xbsx are trading blows, this will probably what we will see moving forward, some games ever so slightly better on xbox and vice versa on ps5 at times. People who thought there was going to be a huge difference might be disappointed.
thatJohann
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PS5 needs VRR support like yesterday.
FatKingBallman
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Must be some kind of defense mechanism. I'm not a fence sitter by any stretch of the imagination (I'm Xbox biased) and yet I am definitely aware of the craziness spread by Xbox fans in the build up. Hell, I even participated in most of it because it was just so easy to wind up a certain group back then (that Sony silence was killing them). How the Sony fans can be completely oblivious to how they were doing the same is beyond me. Honestly, their FUD was more pervasive just because of the greater number of generators. There is probably 5 fanboy YT channels for every one for Xbox thanks to PS4's performance last gen, same with all the forums etc. With all that considered, the Sony fanboy FUD just had more natural virality to it.
Basically the FUD was just flying everywhere as always, good times.
On topic, looks like the 1S needs that 30fps cap too. Hopefully that is something that will be looked at.
So, the post you've quoted on previous page is also a defending mechanism too. But, but Sony fans....
Is it? Xbox fans were and still are more vocal and delusional. So, Astal, MisterXmedia, Timdog, Bluenugroho and so on....their crusade last to this very day.
alabtrosMyster
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At the same clock speed performance should scale almost linearly as far as graphics/rt is concerned.
The same is true for the GPUs clock speed tho.
In the end tflops (if the architecture is exactly the same on both GPUs) is our best estimate of relative graphics performance--in the case of these consoles they do have other differences (which I suspect aren't that important in the end).
However, in game GPUs aren't the only bottle neck... So two GPUs that are within 20% of one another may end up performing about the same, or with dynamic resolution close enough that it would not matter.
This is why this gen does not have a clear performance winner (I personally would prefer it if one console was clearly more powerful than the other, it would have made things clear from the get go).
DaGwaphics
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For every one of those there are 4 or 5 equivalents in the Sony camp, wouldn't surprise me if the Sony fanboys weren't getting more views either. That all just scales with brand awareness which is something Sony has more of at the moment. I think you just excuse the Sony fanboys because you don't see them as "attacking" "your" camp. I don't know their names because they don't live in my head space like that, but there is the "PS5 SSD is 60X faster than XSX" guy, he got a lot of mentions there for a while along with many others. LOL
Werewolfgrandma
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Ignoring it was said Xbox was GCN based
I agree there is was more shit going to the Sony side, but Sony didn't help by staying quiet.
FatKingBallman
Banned
That is not even remotely true. LOL Nice try. Sony camp does has it, bu not nearly in that amount like Phil Spencer's nut huggers
So,
FatKingBallman
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IIRC that was before OFFICIAL specs. So it was all speculation back then and can't categorized as FUD. PS5 FUD continued AFTER official specs announcement.
MasterCornholio
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I've only seen T Trainsmove say that recently about the PS5 but I haven't really seen people call the XSX a GCN based system.
I think what you're talking about was the doubt over the CUs due to the lower clock speeds of the XSXs GPU. To be fair both GPUs are a mish mash of GCN, RDNA1 and RDNA2 parts for BC reasons. The RDNA1 parts are there because they are also used in RDNA2.
MasterCornholio
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So why does the PS5 version have bad peformance? The only one that's sketchy is the XSS RT mode.
Could you really say either premium console is terrible with this game?
You have your win enjoy it.
SLB1904
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grfunkulus
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It's about 10x as easy to get a series x than a DE ps5 in the states. Just sayin'. Sony rumored to be reengineering parts of the ps5 in order to meet demand. I would be surprised if the digital edition is more than 20% (being generous) of US sales. Most reports but it around 10%. So sure, while it's technically an advantage, it's disingenuous to suggest it as a viable option for most. It's like saying the price to performance on next gen graphics cards is good because msrp for the 3080 is $700 when everyone knows they go for almost 3x that on ebay
Riky
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Very interesting, X1X needs 1080p to get a solid 60 whilst XSS does it at 1440p. The resolution mode seems to fall within VRR range mostly on X1X so I'll definitely try that too.
Stuart360
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So in other words XSX can never 'win' a face off then?.
Game is slightly better on PS5 = 'lolz Xbox'
Game is slightly better on XSX = 'Yeah but its more powerful so it should be better, PS5 still wins!'
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Chukhopops
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Source: a fanboy Twitter account from Islamabad, Pakistan
I only remember talks about GCN then there are was some murmurs about Sony heavy investing in RDNA2 R&D, and because of that there are was speculations that architecture will be exclusive to PS5, so Xbox will use GCN or RDNA1. But iirc it was in 2019, long before spec was announced. Contrary to that the most notoriously idiotic xbox fanboys run with "not true RDNA2" slogan to this day.
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SkylineRKR
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Credit is given where credit is due. MS touted their console as the most powerful system on the planet. Then specsheets came out and Xbox had a TF advantage. Then in reality Xbox doesn't win or barely wins comparisons. This is where it backfires. PS5 was supposed to run 1440p max, be considerably weaker etc. In reality it isn't. Raw power isn't everything, PS5 has some tricks up its sleeve Xbox hasn't. They're both rather equal. Which is probably also a demand by third parties to begin with.
In the grand scheme of things its just silly. Its about 1.8TF, its about 3 frames per second. Or a few less pixels. Both consoles are powerful, I guess more powerful than PS4 and X1 were in 2013, but in terms of raw power also quite behind PC tech already because of Nvidia beasting. I'm not a PC gamer but I can imagine RTX owners looking at this fighting over 1.8 TF with a funny face.
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MasterCornholio
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Usually load times are alot closer between the two. I wonder why the difference is like that in RE8?
JTCx
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Pipoqueiro
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obviously the xbox won because of 0.53 average frames
FlyyGOD
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Nobody said the ps5 performance was bad . Just saying that 0.5 frame advantage in favor of ps5 causes fanboys to say Series X is a trash system.
yamaci17
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wild guess, x1x runs native 1080p
xss runs interlaced (checkerboarded) 1440p
amount of pixels rendered would be a bit higher with native 1080p (2.1m pixels) opposed to interlaced 1440p (1280x1440 = 1.8m pixels)
but again, i have no confirmation. but i dont believe ss can push native 1440p 60 fps in this game tbh. it's %67 checkerboard or %33 console magic sauce (if so, props to the machine and microsoft)
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MasterCornholio
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So what's wrong with people saying that they both performed well?
Both systems have their own advantages is what I'm seeing from these comparisons. Either way both are nice.
If it makes you feel better your system won this one. Enjoy it.
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SlimySnake
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Well, they do have the most powerful console in terms of raw GPU power. They never claimed if it was 2x or 50% more powerful, just that it was more powerful. Most of us knew that an 18% tflops wouldnt really manifest into a massive difference, but you cant blame MS for idiots like Dusk Golem, Timdog, Colbert and ShepshalEd.
I am curious to see if this whole 'we waited for RDNA 2.0' talk is also bullshit or if it does manifest into performance when we start seeing next gen games. I know mesh shaders are basically primitive shaders, and Sony has ML, and their VRS is on the Geometry engine, but I am willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt here. Let's wait and see if Fidelity FX performs better on the xsx and if VRS and mesh shaders really do give them a big performance boost.
I am more pissed at MS launching a 4 tflops console than boasting about having the most powerful console. if they really wanted to compete with Sony, they shouldve released a $399 sku and taken a loss to give their consumers a better deal instead of offering them a lower spec'd machine. Returnal is rendering at 1080p internal on the 10 tflops PS5. This isnt even some late gen game. It's launch window. Whats going to happen when games like that start to show up on the xsx? Are the xss vesions going to have an internal resolution of 540p. Would the upscaling even work on resolutions that low?
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Mr Moose
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I went back and checked the PS4/Pro versions to compare them, seems about right between the lot. One S/Pro res mode could maybe do with a 30fps option.
One S 41.88fps
PS4 55.25fps
Pro res 40.2fps
One X res 50.36fps
Pro perf 59.95fps
One X perf 60fps
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yamaci17
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thx for the confirmation
it should look good though. dunno. at least on TVs
i tried on my monitor but even 4k i saw a lot of artifacts/weirdness with cherkerboard rendering. i guess this technique works best with TVs
tbh i dread the day i invested in a monitor. every hack, every anti aliasing (taa), every upscaling seem to be favoring TVs with distant watching ranges. but then I enjoy monitor gaming more because I feel like I'm inside the game, but you always have to run native res or higher... anything lower or any upscaling tech seem to destroy image clarity
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DaGwaphics
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I'd guess 720p at the lowest and they reduce some other settings to make it work. I'm sure you could turn down the lighting and particle effects a notch in Returnal if need be.
With that said, image reconstruction is getting really good, nVidia has shown some surprising results with very low starting resolution.
carlosrox
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Yes you're clearly triggered.I was pretty clear too. Call superior a version which runs 2 FPS better in some spot it's laughableand I was quite calm just find ridiculous such behaviour and I'm referring on both sides eh.
Nothing ridiculous about calling the version that runs a bit better the superior version if that's what it is.
Did I say it was way better? No. I said it was better if it has less frame drops, thus being the superior version.
Die Namek Ability
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Nobody is saying the XsX is trash. This is a fabrication based on a damaged ego because 1.8TF really didnt mean shit after all.
DogsAndKisses666
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Every fucking thread turns into a bunch of super dorks arguing with each other about super dork shit.
Just enjoy the game u losers.
Just enjoy the game u losers.
FunkMiller
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They’re identical.
Xbox and its fan base shouldn’t have spent months leading up to the console releases claiming a big power superiority over Playstation.
End of story.
Xbox and its fan base shouldn’t have spent months leading up to the console releases claiming a big power superiority over Playstation.
End of story.
FatKingBallman
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Funny enough, i've said to you this a month ago
XSX is DESTINED to win every face-off because it is stronger, i guess. :/
Xbox fans, what the hell do you want from XSX to be in face offs in game analysis? For PS5 i want to be as closest as possible. And it delivers on all fronts as almost 2TF weaker console, slower bandwidth and what not, sometimes on par, sometimes better. The vast majority of gamers didn't expected that, i didn't. For an almost 2 TF stronger console as XSX people EXPECTED there shouldn't be sometimes better, sometimes on par instead, it should be always better... by a landslide. :/ But that is not happening.
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The tools held it back , Series X is just hulking up !
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FatKingBallman
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This time, next year. Bookmark it
assurdum
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Again it's not alpha relative. It's the compute vantage. Series X can handle a static scene better than ps5 when raytracing is applied because of the higher cu counts. Otherwise ps5 would run equally "bad" on performance mode if the bandwidth is the cause.I wear glasses. One eye is near sighted, other is far haha. With my glasses my vision is better than 20/20 though.
Although not exact they are quite close. For sure close enough to compare. Xsx keeps 1 to 2fps adv entire time with alpha regardless of enemies.
Could be an outlier or it could be a sign early issues have been ironed out. Guess we will have to wait for another game or 2 to see if Xbox bucks the Alpha drop trend.
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OrtizTwelve
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Played this on Series S with RT on, noticeable slight chug.
With RT off, runs great. RT not a big deal for me.
With RT off, runs great. RT not a big deal for me.
assurdum
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Superior word in my vocabulary it's wider than better...Christ I'm not even English and I have to explain to you the mean of superior? A person can say a series X has an advantage on FPS (almost insignificant if I can say) but superior version? Can you imagine a pc gamer who call superior a game which runs better for 2 FPS on amd GPU over the Nvidia ? People would laugh behind him. That's what I meant. Just to say. Now maybe the whole game will run marginally better on series X obviously in the case the argument changes completely.
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